AfD is the most popular party in Germany for the first time, with a record 26%
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They just asked 1502 people by phone.
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We really should stop using the term "conservative" for what the self proclaimed "conservative" parties are doing. Because they don't conserve anything. They do the exact opposite. They exploit and destroy.
I don't disagree, but when one part of society uses word A and the other part uses word B that would only further increase polarization, which already is a serious problem. I think it'd be better it we continue using the name they use for themselves, but point out what a weird name it is for them. So we could tell them for example that we find it strange they consider themselves "conservative" parties because they don't conserve anything. They do the exact opposite. They exploit and destroy.
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About a election in 4 years? Not really. At least not yet. This isn‘t news worthy in my opinion because it doesn‘t tell you anything about what the country will look like in 4 years.
If the current government is even willing and able to serve their term to its end (the previous one didn't), and actually improve the situation enough so people stop running after some rat catchers with a simple lie as the supposed solution.
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- Fear mongering is making people worried.
- You are against this report for doing this to leftists, hence you are against making leftist people worried.
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You can be against news fearmongering a certain group and also believe the fear this group has is valid. In this case, the leftist could for example be already worried by the actual situation and not because of the fearmongering.
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The current government includes the SPD, which willingly entered into a coalition with the FDP. The CDU is following the same agenda as the FDP. History is repeating itself, just as in the Weimar Republic, none of the established parties are willing and/or able to solve problems that actually matter to the population, creating a giant void in the political landscape that the Nazi scum is happily occupying.
If you ask the population what problems actually matter to them right now, a large part of them will answer "close the borders to protect us from crime".
Which would mean leaving the EU despite the fact that the crime rate is lower than it was in the past.
Or they'll say "make gas cheaper". Which the government can't do without bankrupting itself and would cause loads of other problems.Then you have a party that promises to solve the problems that are actually behind why people are struggling: the rent crisis, rich people syphoning off all wealth, the cost of living, etc...
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I don't disagree, but when one part of society uses word A and the other part uses word B that would only further increase polarization, which already is a serious problem. I think it'd be better it we continue using the name they use for themselves, but point out what a weird name it is for them. So we could tell them for example that we find it strange they consider themselves "conservative" parties because they don't conserve anything. They do the exact opposite. They exploit and destroy.
The problem is that more simple minded people who are actually conservative, as they want to conserve society as it is, will easily fall for the propaganda and vote for a party that is out to destroy what they want to conserve.
The self proclaimed standing of a party is part of its propaganda. Unfortunately the media are complicit with the parties on perpetuating their propaganda, by calling parties by their chosen adjectives, rather than by what would be more fitting. Conservatives should rather be called "Destructives", and in many countries, "Social Democrats" are rather Neoliberals, for they have long sold out social democracy to the highest bidder and now follow an extremist free market ideology, their only remaining difference to the "Conservatives" being not wanting to return to societal norms from 60 years ago.
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In phone polls, not an election...
Still shows you something you can't see by asking your neighbours, colleagues and family. But I agree it doesn't matter in a real way.
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No for fucks sake. Fearmongering is the irrational exaggeration of a worrisome situation to a degree that incites fear (hence the term fearmongering) and panic.
So what irrational fears are promoted about the AdF getting into power and achieving greater public support?
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Short version is they cannot govern without a coalition partner, but they gain other rights in the parliament, such as filling important positions in the administration. When they reach 1/3 of the votes, so 33% they have a Sperrminorität, which means they can't prevent changes in the constitution and also hinder new judges in the constitutional court.
Extra context: Sperrminorität translates to a blocking minority, as in you have enough votes to prevent a 2/3 majority vote.
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Germany: well, okay, listen, it's not working out for America, and it didn't work out for us that one time, but they promised it'll be different for us. What's a few civil liberties and social safety nets if it means we get to
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Plus two percent, a difference of one percent two second place and an error martin of two point five percent. Congrats.
Besides that, I really start to hate these reports. Weekly updates on the Sonntagsfrage are utterly lacking substance, fearmongering (to left leaning people) and reassurance (to AfD voters). Everything we do not need.
Also, the heads of most of the polling institutes are openly right leaning.
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If you ask the population what problems actually matter to them right now, a large part of them will answer "close the borders to protect us from crime".
Which would mean leaving the EU despite the fact that the crime rate is lower than it was in the past.
Or they'll say "make gas cheaper". Which the government can't do without bankrupting itself and would cause loads of other problems.Then you have a party that promises to solve the problems that are actually behind why people are struggling: the rent crisis, rich people syphoning off all wealth, the cost of living, etc...
That party got 8% of the vote.This mindset is manufactured by the Nazi scum turning a cost of living crisis into an immigration and crime crisis in order to present foreigners as an easy scapegoat. The established parties and the media jumped the bandwagon and joined in on their lies.
Then you have a party that promises to solve the problems that are actually behind why people are struggling: the rent crisis, rich people syphoning off all wealth, the cost of living, etc…
How do you solve this in a democracy?
A democracy that actually wants to solve the problem of power hungry unscrupuloaus politicians abusing the system by blatantly lying needs to punish lies, and regulate the media.
These days the media are largely only parrotting everything that is said to them rather than doing their job as journalists and exposing lies and falsehoods as what they are. Instead they are hiding behind false balance and will parrot some insane crackpot's made up lies to counter any fact they might accidentally have to report.
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So in your stupid brain "Not A" is automatically and without any alternatives to equivocate with "the utterly illogical opposite to A"?
Bitte achte auf deine Ausdrucksweise, solche Gossensprache wollen wir hier nicht.
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This mindset is manufactured by the Nazi scum turning a cost of living crisis into an immigration and crime crisis in order to present foreigners as an easy scapegoat. The established parties and the media jumped the bandwagon and joined in on their lies.
Then you have a party that promises to solve the problems that are actually behind why people are struggling: the rent crisis, rich people syphoning off all wealth, the cost of living, etc…
How do you solve this in a democracy?
A democracy that actually wants to solve the problem of power hungry unscrupuloaus politicians abusing the system by blatantly lying needs to punish lies, and regulate the media.
These days the media are largely only parrotting everything that is said to them rather than doing their job as journalists and exposing lies and falsehoods as what they are. Instead they are hiding behind false balance and will parrot some insane crackpot's made up lies to counter any fact they might accidentally have to report.
punish lies, and regulate the media.
So to save democracy, we need to abolish 2 of its most important characteristics - freedom of speech and freedom of the press.
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Everybody in Germany. Please talk to family members that you don't talk to about how this is dangerous to you. I know I have these in my family that I should invest in instead of always talking to the closest ones. Also make sure to beat them with genuine questions that break open their confidence in the reasoning with the socratic way (epistemology)
- What? Belief.
- Why? Reason
- How? Method for Proof
Or
- Identify Persuasion
- Question "What is it actually", definition
--In between ask for scale 1-10 how confident into the topic are you and importance queries - Why do you believe that?
- How could one determine whether this is really true?
--In between the scale and importance queries - Best argument for and strongest argument against?
- Reflect, i.e. repeat what has been said in your own words
eighthly
It's not about being well versed in the topic of conversation
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The last election was so recent, the new government hasn't even started working yet.
This poll is utterly useless, cause the next election it asks about will be in 4 years.Yea, the far right nazis have 3.7 more years to boost those numbers even more with their rethoric and propaganda. Great
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It‘s what this headline wants you to feel but it doesn‘t mean that much if you actually think about it for a moment.
I see a growth trend that if it continues will suck even more in a few years
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So what irrational fears are promoted about the AdF getting into power and achieving greater public support?
Reread the first paragraph of my initial comment.
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That entirely depends on the other parties.
As long as they have less than 50% the other parties could (in theory) band together against them and create a coalition government.
The problem arises when that coalition has to become more diverse. As you can imagine the populist right would rather work together with the far right than with the populist left, so the coalition becomes shaky, paralyzed because they cannot come to agreements. The common denominator will be so small that basically nothing gets done, and the oppositional party will profit from that.
Shaky coalition governments can lead to government breakups and snap elections which in combination with the resulting loss of trust and inability to do anything of the government will likely lead to an even stronger opposition and even more shaky governments or right out majority for the plurality party.
As you can imagine the populist right would rather work together with the far right than with the populist left
Ah fuck it let's give the Churches money to build apartments, then. They don't believe in anything anyway so let's just capture a vague sense of conservativeness.
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punish lies, and regulate the media.
So to save democracy, we need to abolish 2 of its most important characteristics - freedom of speech and freedom of the press.
No freedom is absolute. If you can keep abusing your rights with no repercussions, those rights are worthless.
