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  • speculater@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

    The people with the most power and force are sociopathic though. So we can all be as empathetic as is reasonable, but a relatively small group of well armed people will take everything.

    Anarchy and Libertarianism are the wishful thinking of the left and right. People may on average be good, but large enough groups never are.

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    The whole point of mutual aid is to prevent that though. It organizes people together to stop a small group of people from taking everything.

    The hard part is getting everyone to participate in mutual aid when we live in a dog eat dog world that was built by the small group of well armed people.

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      You can also buy one of these tiny former airbnb studio condos for like 20k cad down if you are desperate. Good way to enter the market if that's all you can come up with. They are all sitting on the market and you can lowball.

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      Link to condo purchase place?

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      • sagan@piefed.socialS [email protected]

        Yes indeed. I think in Europe the worst is probably Lisbon, that has basically been overrun by foreigners, but that's a common phenomenon in all major cities.

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        I did know about Lisbon. I remember hearing the Swiss canton of Vaud had around 60% of it's population was foreigners. Which resulted in the local Swiss no longer being able to afford any form of housing anymore.

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          Link to condo purchase place?

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          Just go on realtor.ca and look for 0 bedroom 1 bath units

          20k down will get you into a <400k condo that will be like 2/3 the cost of what rent would be

          However I would be concerned it's a hard sell in 5 years when you want to upgrade. I know a lady who lives happily in 400sqft but I couldn't.

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            On Airbnb or the garfiti?

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            garfiti

            I choose to interpret this as referring specifically to Garfield Grafitti.

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            • S [email protected]

              Since no one is answering seriously, I will try. There is a distinct difference in anarchist philosophy between property and possession which I will try to explain with housing.

              Property is something that is used to oppress people. Which is why anarchist philosophy aims to abolish all property. In this case, housing that is being used for Airbnbs takes a house from someone that could use it to create a home for themselves and their family and instead uses that land and building to make a profit .

              Possession on the other hand would be someone using that land and building to make a home for themselves and their family, not to make a profit but to survive and exist.

              Owning one home for yourself is not a property but a possession but owning multiple homes that you use to make a profit is property. So the anarchist solution to this is to give that Airbnb to someone who could make it into a permanent home, not a short term rental.

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              And the corporations have spent so much time and money fighting the idea that now anarchists are now associated with terrorists amongst boomers at least.

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                Canmore?

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                Hahaha fuck I miss old Canmore

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                  They banned airbnb in victoria bc last year and rent here has actually went down. From this one single change.

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                  What happened is the province made short-term rentals only legal for primary residences and secondary suites.
                  That sure helped some, but you can still find airbnb/vrbo listings in Victoria.

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                    What happened is the province made short-term rentals only legal for primary residences and secondary suites.
                    That sure helped some, but you can still find airbnb/vrbo listings in Victoria.

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                    Yeah it freed up entire apartments is what helped. I was able to BUY my own condo due to a slight correction in prices partly thanks to this policy

                    I bet someone would have outbid me and made it into an airbnb if not for this policy

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                      I live in a small CA mountain town that was "the only town open" during COVID, and as such, Airbnb went apeshit. Well the market got oversaturated and now with people trying to offload these properties or rent them out to long term residents , and shocker, rents are coming down (along with home prices). We still have yoyos trying to get $4k/mo for a 2/1 piece of shit because I'm guessing they're upside down on their mortgage, but those properties have been sitting on the market for at least 6mos. I have zero empathy for the people that bought high and losing their asses because they wanted to make it rich at the expense of our local population.

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                      I live in Florida and we had an influx of people. Mainly due to Florida not shutting down during Covid. I traveled to Puerto Rico during that time and they were shut down. Most of the Bahamas Islands were shutdown as well.

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                        What is that even supposed to mean? You sold the home to someone else who rents it out?

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                        I want to live in your world where everyone owns their own home

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                          They banned airbnb in victoria bc last year and rent here has actually went down. From this one single change.

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                          But the land lords told us Airbnb doesn't effect rental prices and actually let's people afford homes!

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                            This feels like misplaced anger, given that blackstone owns god knows how much of the real estate market ( and have recently been evicting tenants in order to sell, due to the city becoming 'less hospitable' ). But hopefully the new anti airbnb measures have some effect.

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                            I don't think it's misplaced, but even if it's not the biggest piece in the puzzle(I honestly don't claim to know) it's still a valuable piece, one might even say it's as valuable as an edge of corner piece of the puzzzle

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                              Air bnbs are a cancer. You should be ashamed of yourself if your buying property then renting it out. With what they charge they are able to pay tge mortgage in 3 nights

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                                But the land lords told us Airbnb doesn't effect rental prices and actually let's people afford homes!

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                                lol who said this

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                                  In Barcelona?

                                  Not everything is solely an american issue, even (especially) when it comes to US companies.

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                                  Classic Lemmy where someone says "not every is American" in response to an issue that actually does apply to them

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                                    lol who said this

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                                    The people letting AirBNBs!

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                                      Since no one is answering seriously, I will try. There is a distinct difference in anarchist philosophy between property and possession which I will try to explain with housing.

                                      Property is something that is used to oppress people. Which is why anarchist philosophy aims to abolish all property. In this case, housing that is being used for Airbnbs takes a house from someone that could use it to create a home for themselves and their family and instead uses that land and building to make a profit .

                                      Possession on the other hand would be someone using that land and building to make a home for themselves and their family, not to make a profit but to survive and exist.

                                      Owning one home for yourself is not a property but a possession but owning multiple homes that you use to make a profit is property. So the anarchist solution to this is to give that Airbnb to someone who could make it into a permanent home, not a short term rental.

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                                      If property doesn't exist, you can't go on vacation though.

                                      When you leave your house, someone else can just come in and take it for himself.

                                      You couldn't even go for a walk. The moment you leave the house you stop "possessing" it.

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                                        1. progressive taxation of properties that are not a primary residence. Rachet up the taxation for each additional property. I think their should be a certain amount of relief for actually maintaining the building and renting to Section 8/affordable housing programs
                                        2. actually enforce zoning. A short term rental is a hotel business and should require a commercial business license and respect the zoning associated with that type of license

                                        I fucking hate 2010 venture capital companies like AirBnb and Uber. Flaunt the law in a sexy way, loss lead with the capital to build market share, then crank the price up.

                                        It’s always bullshit behind a convenient app with great UI

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                                        Man, if only there were some organisation that were powerful enough to enforce these rules against people who don't want to follow them.

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                                          1. progressive taxation of properties that are not a primary residence. Rachet up the taxation for each additional property. I think their should be a certain amount of relief for actually maintaining the building and renting to Section 8/affordable housing programs
                                          2. actually enforce zoning. A short term rental is a hotel business and should require a commercial business license and respect the zoning associated with that type of license

                                          I fucking hate 2010 venture capital companies like AirBnb and Uber. Flaunt the law in a sexy way, loss lead with the capital to build market share, then crank the price up.

                                          It’s always bullshit behind a convenient app with great UI

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                                          Aren't taxes and zoning non-existent under anarchy?

                                          If there is no state, there is no one to pay taxes to. And if there is no state, there is no one to make and enforce zoning laws.

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