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The basics of the Fediverse. Facebook, Twitter, Tiktok, Reddit, ... vs the Fediverse. What do you think?

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  • T [email protected]

    That's cool too, but way too much text for it to be quickly consumed on a small display. This is more for the second stage when people are already curious and want to learn more, in my opinion.

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    Yea, too much yapping

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    • elderreflections@fedia.ioE [email protected]

      I'd say these fall into the same trap that most fediverse explainers fall into β€” too focused on implementation details, not the experience. The average FB user thinks they're connecting to friends directly, not really considering the system architecture that powers it.

      I'd like a graphic that shows how centralised media blocks connections to others outside thier walled garden.

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      #35

      Interesting. How would you put this into a picture?

      My friend (the average social media user) also didn't seem too interested in it. I can imagine something interesting for the average user in a video but not in an image.

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        John Fediverse is in the middle, holding all the fediverse conmections together.

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        #36

        Is his first name John or Join?

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        • T [email protected]

          What do you think about this graphic?

          It should give an easy overview of the architecture of the Fediverse and what it differentiates from old social media.

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          Lemmy and mastodon are not really connected, I don't know about the others. I would focus on one protocol (is that the right term here?) and show different instances. I'm not on lemmy to follow mastodon users, it's a very different concept

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          • L [email protected]

            Lemmy and mastodon are not really connected, I don't know about the others. I would focus on one protocol (is that the right term here?) and show different instances. I'm not on lemmy to follow mastodon users, it's a very different concept

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            #38

            But from Mastodon, you can follow and post in Lemmy groups.

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              Lemmy and mastodon are not really connected, I don't know about the others. I would focus on one protocol (is that the right term here?) and show different instances. I'm not on lemmy to follow mastodon users, it's a very different concept

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              #39

              You can subscribe to and comment in Lemmy communities from Mastodon.

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                But surely the average Zuckerbook user is not so dumb as to miss what this graphic is describing - a crazy utopia where they could talk to people on TikTok and Xitter as well as Zuckerbook?

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                • T [email protected]

                  You can subscribe to and comment in Lemmy communities from Mastodon.

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                  But you can’t view Mastodon posts from Lemmy.

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                  • xigoi@lemmy.sdf.orgX [email protected]

                    But you can’t view Mastodon posts from Lemmy.

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                    #42

                    True. That's currently not possible

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                    • T [email protected]

                      What do you think about this graphic?

                      It should give an easy overview of the architecture of the Fediverse and what it differentiates from old social media.

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                      #43

                      bad chart

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                      • snoopy@piefed.socialS [email protected]

                        Maybe you can show that, we don't alway federate with every instance, with several drawing of this cloud network.

                        That's also part of our freedom πŸ™‚

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                        #44

                        Good idea. But I think it's better to explain that later, when people are already curious πŸ™‚

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                        • blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.comB [email protected]

                          Wait until you hear about [email protected]

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                          He looks fun to be around πŸ˜…

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                          • T [email protected]

                            What do you think about this graphic?

                            It should give an easy overview of the architecture of the Fediverse and what it differentiates from old social media.

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                            My criticism is that it largely ignores the primary advantage of Fediverse services (Decentralizing services that are designed to operate Centrally), while mostly explaining what I've always considered to be the most pointless feature (Cross Service posting).

                            It's a mildly neat feature if you want to centralize your entire social profile under one account (which is my security nightmare but you do you), but its not really fundamental to using federated services and its implementation can be inconsistent and confusing.

                            Maybe have a bunch of "Lemmy" (or whatever) nodes arranged in a circle, the same color, with the same icon, and connected to each other through the middle of the circle. Then have the users connected to each node.

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                            • snoopy@piefed.socialS [email protected]

                              Yeah i do agree but sadjy, there is a reason some of us call it lemmyverse. We can see mastodon's content.

                              Since Lemmy doesn't really support hashtag, the core of mastodon discoverability, I think switching to a new software is better.

                              PieFed plan to support Mastodon this year. They already do it somewhat : you can follow PieFed user and a.gup.pe work well. You can also follow comment or post by setting up an alert.

                              Currently, only mbin can do that.

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                              #47

                              hashtags don't work well on the Fediverse, a hashtag doesn't have an owning instance which means there's no way to push/pull the content by hashtag

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                              • die4ever@retrolemmy.comD [email protected]

                                hashtags don't work well on the Fediverse, a hashtag doesn't have an owning instance which means there's no way to push/pull the content by hashtag

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                                On masto that helped me finding new people or thematic discussion. It may not work very well but it does works with boost. From what i was able to achieve with it, it's an amazing tool 😊

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                                • snoopy@piefed.socialS [email protected]

                                  On masto that helped me finding new people or thematic discussion. It may not work very well but it does works with boost. From what i was able to achieve with it, it's an amazing tool 😊

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                                  yea I mean it's fun to use and works well if you're on a large instance like mastodon.social, I use it even on a medium size instance

                                  but communities/groups work better on the fediverse, and maybe something in between the 2 could be created, some kind of federated version of hashtags

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                                  • T [email protected]

                                    What do you think about this graphic?

                                    It should give an easy overview of the architecture of the Fediverse and what it differentiates from old social media.

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                                    Love it! I've saved a copy, because I think it'll make future explanations a lot easier. Thanks!

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                                    • T [email protected]

                                      Interesting. How would you put this into a picture?

                                      My friend (the average social media user) also didn't seem too interested in it. I can imagine something interesting for the average user in a video but not in an image.

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                                      I would add random instance names to the service icons, to show them that the websites are interconnected and not just the services

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                                      • T [email protected]

                                        What do you think about this graphic?

                                        It should give an easy overview of the architecture of the Fediverse and what it differentiates from old social media.

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                                        There's no central authority here. But if it doesn't matter which instance you are on, then all the users on Lemmy are still just part of Lemmy.

                                        On the graph I see other icons than Lemmy.

                                        Are we able to see content from other social media? Or what is meant with that

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                                        • wanpieserino@lemm.eeW [email protected]

                                          There's no central authority here. But if it doesn't matter which instance you are on, then all the users on Lemmy are still just part of Lemmy.

                                          On the graph I see other icons than Lemmy.

                                          Are we able to see content from other social media? Or what is meant with that

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                                          Certain other content crosses boarders. Matson especially. Whenever you see people replying to messages and it starts with some sort of [email protected] tagging, you're probably eavesdropping on a Mastadon thread and you don't even know it.

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