Nintendo Switch 2 Launches on June 5th Worldwide; 1080p Screen With 120 FPS and HDR Support, Docked Mode 4K Resolution Support Confirmed
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Then it seems we got off on the wrong foot when you called my disagreement meaningless.
RISC has always been fundamentally cheaper than x86 which is one reason why Nintendo has used a RISC processor in all of their handheld consoles since the original GameBoy.
Your last sentence is pretty much my point though. There is no reason for that. Look at the iPad and the Mac Mini, look at the Raspberry Pi… there is no reason for a RISC machine to cost more than an x86 machine.
This conversation is kinda surreal and I think I want it to stop.
Even if you were correct about this, and you are not, especially in modern times, this only applies to one part of the APU. The GPU is still your run of the mill CUDA-based Nvidia GPU, effectively a PC part. And this is a handheld, a lot of the cost is stuck in the display, controllers, storage and the rest of the hardware package. The CPU component of the APU is not going to be what sets the baseline for cost unless you're building in a super high-end part.
I can't parse how you're looking at this, but I assure you that it doesn't counter the point that this thing seems to both perform similarly and cost about as much as the current batch of PC handhelds. I don't know how this is a back-and-forth thing.
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How open a platform is is high on the list of how I measure the value of hardware, but not how the general population does. I played my launch Switch way, way more after I jailbroke it. I was originally going to wait until the Switch 2 came out, but Nintendo pissed me off with their Yuzu crap last year. For most people that just wanna play games with less hassle, the Switch 2 compares much more favorably.
Yeah, sure, that's always the case for consoles. I have no objection to that train of thought. If you want versatility and an open platform you're going to be better off with a similarly specced PC handheld. At the cost of first party exclusives and a few other creature comforts, but if you're only going to buy one device and that's a priority that's clearly the way to go.
Looking at it in general and in the market and just looking at the hardware they're packing in, though, their proposition isn't super overpriced. The part that is a bummer is they seem to be shifting that extra cost to other places with the subscription, generational upgrade packs, higher physical game prices and so on.
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You know it will not... The best I hope is that MK doesn't sell too well separately thus forcing a discount.
depends on the customer really, we do not live in times where everyone can buy food or even think about another child member. the release sales of the switch 1 were pre covid.
This might flop due to 2-class conflict, although Id love to see the switch 2 to succeed
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This conversation is kinda surreal and I think I want it to stop.
Even if you were correct about this, and you are not, especially in modern times, this only applies to one part of the APU. The GPU is still your run of the mill CUDA-based Nvidia GPU, effectively a PC part. And this is a handheld, a lot of the cost is stuck in the display, controllers, storage and the rest of the hardware package. The CPU component of the APU is not going to be what sets the baseline for cost unless you're building in a super high-end part.
I can't parse how you're looking at this, but I assure you that it doesn't counter the point that this thing seems to both perform similarly and cost about as much as the current batch of PC handhelds. I don't know how this is a back-and-forth thing.
This conversation is surreal because you don't seem to understand how disagreement works. You said the price makes sense, I am saying it doesn’t. You are free to end the discussion there if you wish but I am going to keep responding to the person who keeps acting like their opinion is fact;
Tegra GPUs are specifically cost reduced, low power versions of previous generations of GeForce GPUs. The one in the Switch 2 has been rumored to be based on the 3000 series but I have not seen any confirmation of that as yet. I feel like you are making my point for me, you keep saying that everything else costs the same so why should this one cheaper part matter… and my response is because it’s cheaper. Note the lack of PCI and Thunderbolt for instance. There is also no Windows license to worry about.
If you don't want to reply then don't but seriously it seems like you are getting upset solely because somebody has a differing opinion.
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I'm personally very excited for Prime 4, DK Bananza, and Hyrule Warriors Imprisoning War, as well as F-Zero GX getting released from the vault. Maybe not hyped enough to pay day 1 prices though
Same here, post-covid two-class society might not let this one pass sales wise, I fear
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The en-ca in the URL means nothing as I've bought from .ca websites and been charged in USD before. To be fair, it wasn't a large company like Nintendo but it still happened. Fastest cancel I've ever done. So, Unless it's explicitly called out next to the price or I've bought something from there before, I usually assume it's USD.
Hmm hm ok.
And which country do you live in?
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Yeah, sure, that's always the case for consoles. I have no objection to that train of thought. If you want versatility and an open platform you're going to be better off with a similarly specced PC handheld. At the cost of first party exclusives and a few other creature comforts, but if you're only going to buy one device and that's a priority that's clearly the way to go.
Looking at it in general and in the market and just looking at the hardware they're packing in, though, their proposition isn't super overpriced. The part that is a bummer is they seem to be shifting that extra cost to other places with the subscription, generational upgrade packs, higher physical game prices and so on.
It is quite a shift from how Nintendo's been doing things since the Wii. They were always the weaker hardware at a lower price guys, so this is quite a change in their philosophy. I saw you said as much in another comment. They'll be competing more directly with Sony and Microsoft than they have since the Gamecube. I'll be interested to see how selling at top dollar does for them in the particularly unstable global market we have now.
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I'm personally very excited for Prime 4, DK Bananza, and Hyrule Warriors Imprisoning War, as well as F-Zero GX getting released from the vault. Maybe not hyped enough to pay day 1 prices though
Problem with Nintendo is that day 1 prices are the same as day 1000 prices
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So it's $650 CAD $700 AUD for the Switch 2 and it's $120 CAD $150 AUD for Mario Kart.
LMAO
Preorder for mk in AUD is $114, fortunately.
...still fucking steep.
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Problem with Nintendo is that day 1 prices are the same as day 1000 prices
Not always the case as with the swift price drop for the 3DS. Depends on what sales look like for the Switch 2. Maybe we'll get an OLED version for $500 or something. But my gaming plate is pretty full, and I may just power through Prime 4 on Switch.
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Best switch console is still the steam deck I'm sure :3
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I won't lie, I'm only interested in the new Pro controller. My old one has slight stick drift which absolutely sucks of course but it's over 7 years old and feels so much better than anything else on the market. I also prefer the Nintendo button layout over Microsoft's so it's an easy purchase.
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It is quite a shift from how Nintendo's been doing things since the Wii. They were always the weaker hardware at a lower price guys, so this is quite a change in their philosophy. I saw you said as much in another comment. They'll be competing more directly with Sony and Microsoft than they have since the Gamecube. I'll be interested to see how selling at top dollar does for them in the particularly unstable global market we have now.
Yep. This is a shockingly... Playstationy proposition. First party games aside I would have not been surprised to see a Vita revival be this exact console. I mean, they're basically shipping Bloodborne 2 and EyeToy.
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Yep. This is a shockingly... Playstationy proposition. First party games aside I would have not been surprised to see a Vita revival be this exact console. I mean, they're basically shipping Bloodborne 2 and EyeToy.
Nintendo's pricing themselves with the big boys again, let's see how they do!
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There’s a price on the UK official store: £395.99 for the system. £429.99 including digital copy of MKW.
Preorders open on 8th April.
Preorders open on 8th April.
The US site lists May 8. Preorders also seem to be invite-only in the beginning?
From the US site:
Invitation emails will be prioritized on a first-come, first-served basis to registrants who have purchased a Nintendo Switch Online membership with a minimum of 12 months of paid membership and a minimum of 50 total gameplay hours, as of April 2, 2025. Once invitation emails have been sent to all registrants meeting the priority criteria, invitations will be sent to remaining eligible registrants on a first-come, first-served basis.
The German site lists April 8, but requires you two have a Nintendo online subscription for the last two years.
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Best switch console is still the steam deck I'm sure :3
Given the switch2 is going to cost more, definitely.
Also games are going to be $80 apparently
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You can download and keep the installers forever in your personal storage somewhere, and install them without the need of Internet connection.
When you buy a game from GOG you're buying without DRM and have all the installers available to download as backups. Regardless of what the fine print may say, this is effectively owning your games forever.
Regardless of what the fine print may say, this is effectively owning your games forever.
However, if you don't ignore the contract you signed, this is effectively piracy. Which is fine, don't get me wrong. But you still don't own anything. BTW Steam has plenty of DRM-free games which you can run without the client; backing them up is a more manual process than GOG but the end result is the same.
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Yep, agreed. I mean, revolutionizing the entire concept of home consoles and starting an entire new hardware segment is a hard act to follow, I wasn't expecting to be blown away by an iteration on the same idea.
Would have been nice, though.
I seriously think the new big thing is gonna be steamOS or something very similar to it. That was kind of unthinkable 10 years ago but I believe we are gonna see a shift in the industry.
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I seriously think the new big thing is gonna be steamOS or something very similar to it. That was kind of unthinkable 10 years ago but I believe we are gonna see a shift in the industry.
I don't know about that. Reception to most of this Direct seems to be positive, they have a literal 10x sales advantage and 150 million people already in the ecosystem.
I wouldn't be surprised if it sold a lot slower, but half as fast as the Switch 1 is still faster than the PS5 and much faster than the Steam Deck.
Will PC handhelds gain some ground? Maybe, I'm curious to see.
