My AI Skeptic Friends Are All Nuts
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Sorry team flipped the URL’s around to prevent overflow from lemmy.world users
+1, though all this is a very unpopular opinion on most of the internet.
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This is just brilliant. Every ridiculous argument addressed perfectly.
but you have no idea what the code is
Are you a vibe coding Youtuber? Can you not read code? If so: astute point. Otherwise: what the fuck is wrong with you?
You’ve always been responsible for what you merge to main. You were five years go. And you are tomorrow, whether or not you use an LLM.
I want to scream every time somebody brings up "but it writes code that doesn't work" and all I can think of is "what the fuck is wrong with you that you're merging code that doesn't work?" LLMs do not remove your responsibility as a developer to create a working product.
I've played with QwenCoder2.5, Qwen3, and Devstral.
Holy shit are they bad. Seriously, consistently bad at coding. Initialized variables that are never used. Importing, using functions/methods that don't exist, it's fucking pathetic.
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I've played with QwenCoder2.5, Qwen3, and Devstral.
Holy shit are they bad. Seriously, consistently bad at coding. Initialized variables that are never used. Importing, using functions/methods that don't exist, it's fucking pathetic.
I don't know what to tell ya - GPT 4o does a really good job. Feel free to simply blame "ai slop" for everything though.
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+1, though all this is a very unpopular opinion on most of the internet.
wrote last edited by [email protected]it’s weird because the post has a massive amount of downvotes in an ai friendly sub, even the hackernews rss bot is being downvoted!
I think the “cross-posted to” feature is being abused by anti ai zealots
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it’s weird because the post has a massive amount of downvotes in an ai friendly sub, even the hackernews rss bot is being downvoted!
I think the “cross-posted to” feature is being abused by anti ai zealots
wrote last edited by [email protected]It's not bots, it just how local ML posts are on the internet.
I got banned from a Reddit fandom sub for the mere suggestion that a certain fan 'remaster' be updated with newer diffusion/GAN models. Apparently they weren't aware the original was made with Waifu2x... But unfortunately, anything tangential to tech bro AI is radioactive.
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It's not bots, it just how local ML posts are on the internet.
I got banned from a Reddit fandom sub for the mere suggestion that a certain fan 'remaster' be updated with newer diffusion/GAN models. Apparently they weren't aware the original was made with Waifu2x... But unfortunately, anything tangential to tech bro AI is radioactive.
wrote last edited by [email protected]sorry i mean the rss bot:
https://lemmy.bestiver.se/post/419818
this was posted on [email protected] who are super anti ai so it’s no surprise they’re downvoting everything
Next time might do an archive link and put the real article in the body
edit: just swapped the links around, will see how this goes
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sorry i mean the rss bot:
https://lemmy.bestiver.se/post/419818
this was posted on [email protected] who are super anti ai so it’s no surprise they’re downvoting everything
Next time might do an archive link and put the real article in the body
edit: just swapped the links around, will see how this goes
Eh, I still bet it was really people browsing /new who downvoted it.
Honestly I get it, with how enshittified corporate portals/use is already, but still.
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it’s weird because the post has a massive amount of downvotes in an ai friendly sub, even the hackernews rss bot is being downvoted!
I think the “cross-posted to” feature is being abused by anti ai zealots
Lots of people on Lemmy discover post through the local and all feeds without paying much attention to the community it came from. Also the name of this post encourages extra antagonism from the hater crowd.
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I don't know what to tell ya - GPT 4o does a really good job. Feel free to simply blame "ai slop" for everything though.
yep I've been told Gemini is the new hot shit, really hoping local models can catch up
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I don't know what to tell ya - GPT 4o does a really good job. Feel free to simply blame "ai slop" for everything though.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Kinda late to the party but based on my day-to-day usage of ChatGPT,
4ois rubbish when it comes to coding.Now
o4-mini-highon the other hand - that's the good stuff (most of the time). -
This is just brilliant. Every ridiculous argument addressed perfectly.
but you have no idea what the code is
Are you a vibe coding Youtuber? Can you not read code? If so: astute point. Otherwise: what the fuck is wrong with you?
You’ve always been responsible for what you merge to main. You were five years go. And you are tomorrow, whether or not you use an LLM.
I want to scream every time somebody brings up "but it writes code that doesn't work" and all I can think of is "what the fuck is wrong with you that you're merging code that doesn't work?" LLMs do not remove your responsibility as a developer to create a working product.
Apart from the arguments that
- yes, vibe coders exist and they will be cheaper to employ, creating huge long term problems, with a generational gap in senior programmers, who are the ones maintaining open source projects.
- heinous environmental impact, and I mean heinous. This is my biggest problem honestly.
- you're betting that llms will improve faster than programmers forget "the craft". Llms are wide, not deep, and the less programmers care about boilerplate and how things actually work, the less material for the llms - >feedback loop - > worse llms etc.
I use llms, hell I designed a workshop for my employer on how programmers can use llms, cursor, etc.
But I don't think we're quite aware how we are screwing ourselves long term.
