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Non-Americans, what's it like when you're sick and need to go to the doctor?

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    Standardly you lose the insurance on the day your job ends. There is a program called COBRA that exists where you can pay more (whatever the employer was paying on top of what you were paying, and a fee) to keep it going until you find your next job. I think it maxes out at a year but I'm not sure. Never done it, as I couldn't afford it between jobs. Hope that day you speak of comes sooner than later. Also I hope all goes well in life for you. Best of luck

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    Cheers, same to you

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    • L [email protected]

      In addition to what slazer said, in Australia once you earn over a certain amount you get hit with an extra tax if you don't take out private health.
      The conservative coalition brought that in a long time ago because their donor mates in private health asked them to ruin our public health care and this was their first step towards that.

      I still have private cover as it seems like the least bad option even though it pisses me off. I guess that's the point.

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      I'm sorry. Yeah that sounds dumb to me. As an American health insurance seems like it shouldn't exist.

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      • return2ozma@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

        Which country are you in and what's a typical doctor visit like? How much? Wait time? Etc

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        Swede here, if it's something minor I can get an appointment within a few days, if it's more major there's some open clinics I can turn to, but if I have to see a professional I have to get in a months-long line.

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        • archmageazor@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

          Swede here, if it's something minor I can get an appointment within a few days, if it's more major there's some open clinics I can turn to, but if I have to see a professional I have to get in a months-long line.

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          Similar to Canada unless you have to see a mental health professional and then it’s like there are none.

          But also the hospital allows patients to fall out of bed and play the ‘I didn’t do it’ game.

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            Canada

            Wait 7 years to get a family doctor. Wait 3 months to get an actual appointment. Lose family doctor. Rinse and repeat.

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            I think this is why they went the urgent care route now after closing clinics.

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              It's immensely expensive!
              I went to the doctor and he charged me 1 euro.
              The imaging in the hospital and the orthopedist only cost 2.8 euro.
              So they're really leeching it.

              But seriously it's difficult to get an appointment and nowhere do they take new patients.
              Smart government decided on a numerus clausus and now there aren't enough doctors.
              The ones that are there lately don't want to work fulltime, so even less availability.

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              You forgot to mention the region this is for

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                Norway, I book online if it's not urgent and wait a few weeks. If it's urgent I call them and get it same day. Costs about ~250 NOK or ~20 USD I think.
                Public doctors are always at least 45 minutes late (unless you are late if course, then they call you on time)

                I also had a non-urgent matter, but felt like wait time was too long (holiday season) so I went to a private clinic, got appointment same day and paid about 700 NOK I think.

                I go there, tell my story, if they need to take some samples they can usually do them on site right away for no additional charge.

                If I need some medicine they prescribe that and tell me to come back in x weeks if it's not getting better.

                If they can't help me I get a referral. It could take a long time to get certain procedures, especially if they are not urgent/very important, but most of the time it's been a few weeks for my issues.

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                Do you need to pay for any prescription medicine?

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                  Yeah but you need to go there once a quartal to give them your insurance card. So if you are sick less than that you still need to go every time.

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                  I've heard there should be another option, iirc bringing the card in later when you're not sick/infectious anymore (better for everyone methinks), but that this takes extra administration on their side and so they mostly refuse to acknowledge you have this legal option. Or so a colleague mentioned some months ago, I probably mix up some details

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                  • return2ozma@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

                    Which country are you in and what's a typical doctor visit like? How much? Wait time? Etc

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                    Germany

                    Had 3 surgeries (wisedom teeth, nose bone correction and a refilling tooth surgery), an X-Ray, MRI, and i think 4 doctor visits plus all 3 months a psychiatrist to get my adhd medication.

                    The only thing i had to pay was 50€ for a none concret filling on my tooth, and 30€ for 6 days in hospital.

                    Hospital food was better than i expected and always heared about.

                    Had to wait a year for that surgery but the other specialist appointments were really quick in only a few months. Especially the wisdomtooth was in 2 weeks after the call for an appointment

                    Wait time was only a few minutes.

                    But had an appointment at a dermitologist and there i waited 3 hours!! Almost walked out. And i wanted was more info about my skin type and laser hair removal.

                    Everything is covered by the insurance though it needs a huge reforms. There is a two class system and government workers dont pay into it at all but get the Premium benefits.
                    And that the insurance companys are covering less and less with dental now only 1 check up every half year.

                    Yes i am outrages that only concret to fill holes or build up a tooth is free. Fucking concret!! It is an outrage!

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                      Do you need to pay for any prescription medicine?

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                      Yes, at the pharmacy, but it's not very much, I pay maybe 200 NOK for my two allergy medicines combined, they both lasts me about 3 months.

                      I just checked and there's a maximum payment of 520 NOK for 3 months worth of medicine for chronic illness, it's more complicated if there's more than one illness and multiple medications, but the norm is maximum 520 NOK for the months.

                      Amd ylthe cost I pay for prescription drugs for one time prescription have always been so small that it almost don't register.

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                        French here. when sick, I use an app to book a appointment to a medical center I have that's like 5 minutes away by foot ( not typical for all french residents but I am quite lucky with where I live). I usually have an appointment in the next 2 to 4 hours tops. Depending on what it is, I walk away with a prescription and certificate for work stating how many sicks days I have. This costs me nothing, appart from the occasional optional medication that is not reimbursed.

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                        This feels like a joke.

                        Like, just name all the shit that is wrong with the US and flip it joke.

                        Comparison, my wife wasn't feeling well and insisted on going to the Dr. The closest appointment was over a week away, and the Dr. told her to go to the ER instead. Took a 25 minute drive to the nearest ER in the city, got her vitals in a few minutes and then waited hours to see a Dr who basically gave her 2 cups of coffee and some Tylenol and then had us go home. We won't get the bill for months, but it's usually in the 800 dollar range, and that is with insurance.

                        I'm in the US if that wasn't obvious.

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                        • return2ozma@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

                          Which country are you in and what's a typical doctor visit like? How much? Wait time? Etc

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                          UK.

                          Until recently, if I wanted an appointment I had to phone the GP surgery the moment it opened at 8:30 in the morning, wait in a phone queue for ten minutes or so before I got to speak to a receptionist who'd give me an appointment with which ever GP had some free time that day. It wasn't usually possible to book an appointment several days in advance.

                          A couple of months back they switched to an app which gives much more flexibility, allows you to choose which doctor you want to see and allows you to book appointments in advance. I do worry that they're going to push everyone to use that since old gippers are likely to struggle with the app unless they're semi-tech savvy. Also, it's obvious to me that they're setting this up to use AI to triage requests if they're not already doing that.

                          Appointments always used to be face to face but since covid they're increasingly phone consultations especially for follow-ups. If it's a first, diagnostic appointment it's still likely to be face to face though.

                          For face to face, the wait time is generally less than half an hour from the point I get to the GP surgery.

                          Obv. it's free at the point of use. I've paid my taxes.

                          Edit to add: if you're on low income, or are a child, old, etc you get your prescriptions free. Otherwise you have to pay for them at £9.90 per 2 month prescription. I'm on a shitload of medication and that would normally cost me well over £500 a year, but I get a prepayment certificate which costs me £114.50 a year and covers all medication.

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                            United Kingdom (Bristol.)

                            Used to be pretty decent, but now the NHS is chronically overbooked and underfunded. Ambulances can take hours to come.

                            Only way to get a GP appointment is to literally call my practice at 8AM on the dot, wait in the queue and hope you're lucky to have your call answered before all the appointments are gone. There is no online booking system, and if you call at any other time, they won't be able to book you in advance unless you're willing to wait months.

                            My dad (80 years old) has had to go to hospital a few times in the past few years for various reasons, and the longest he's had to wait to be admitted into a ward was 13 hours. He had a hip replacement operation two years ago where he was on an 18 month waiting list.

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                            My GP surgery was the same (except 8:30 not 8:00), but moved to an app a couple of months ago. Given that I suspect the point of it is to allow an AI to triage appointment requests I wouldn't be surprised if yours 'upgrades' as well.

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                              Which country are you in and what's a typical doctor visit like? How much? Wait time? Etc

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                              That's depressing, I can only imagine what it's like to ponder wether or not to get checked because you can't afford it...

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                                This feels like a joke.

                                Like, just name all the shit that is wrong with the US and flip it joke.

                                Comparison, my wife wasn't feeling well and insisted on going to the Dr. The closest appointment was over a week away, and the Dr. told her to go to the ER instead. Took a 25 minute drive to the nearest ER in the city, got her vitals in a few minutes and then waited hours to see a Dr who basically gave her 2 cups of coffee and some Tylenol and then had us go home. We won't get the bill for months, but it's usually in the 800 dollar range, and that is with insurance.

                                I'm in the US if that wasn't obvious.

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                                That's depressing, I can only imagine what it's like to ponder wether or not to get checked because you can't afford it...

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                                  That's depressing, I can only imagine what it's like to ponder wether or not to get checked because you can't afford it...

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                                  My general rule of thumb, if there isn't a significant risk to life, limb, or senses in the next 24 hrs, I'm not going to the ER.

                                  I don't go to a GP ever. They stole my blood and piss, and then told me to come back in 6 months and did it again. The headache of setting up the appointments, rescheduling work, travel, and copays means it just isn't worth it.

                                  Finally, if I have an injury, and it's still affecting my daily life 3 days later, then I go to urgent care, and sometimes that even feels like a waste of money. Cost 180 bucks for me to get a pinched nerve in my shoulder diagnosed (couldn't sleep for 3 days) and they prescribed me maximum strength acetaminophen and some steroids which blew my heart rate up to unsafe levels so I stopped taking them. Pain finally went away about 4 days later on its own.

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                                    Which country are you in and what's a typical doctor visit like? How much? Wait time? Etc

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                                    Canadian here.

                                    This one time 10 years ago I drove to my family doctor's office without an appointment and got lucky that it was a walk in day.

                                    I saw my doctor within an hour of arriving and it cost me nothing.

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                                      Which country are you in and what's a typical doctor visit like? How much? Wait time? Etc

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                                      I'm in France in a small village but I'm quite lucky with the doctor situation.

                                      If I'm sick I go online, see what shot is available for my doctor and book it, usually in the best few days. If it's urgent I can call or go there and I'll usually get an appointment during the day with my doctor or one of the other two doctors working there.

                                      Then I walk there since it's 400m away.

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                                      • S [email protected]

                                        Overnight stay at a hospital here in the US is at least $3,000 / £2.196 / €2.552

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                                        When you don't have health insurance, I'd assume? Because the tax system is basically the UK health insurance so I'm not sure if it's a fair comparison in that case (the amount you pay through taxes or to a private insurance company might be very different though, but then that'd imo be the number to compare)

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                                          Nope. I had Magen-Darm at home and there was no way I'd go anywhere outside. They accepted that TK service to send them my proof of insurance via Fax or Email.

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                                          You can do the same with my doctor but usually I have the energy to go by there quickly anyway. Dont need to see the doc to get the note. Just go to the reception

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