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John Oliver promoted alternatives to big tech in last night's episode, including Mastodon and Pixelfed

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  • otter@lemmy.caO This user is from outside of this forum
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    If you've been sitting on making a post about your favorite instance, this could be a good opportunity to do so.

    Going by our registration applications, a lot of people are learning about the fediverse for the first time and they're excited about the idea. I've really enjoyed reading through them 🙂

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    • otter@lemmy.caO [email protected]

      If you've been sitting on making a post about your favorite instance, this could be a good opportunity to do so.

      Going by our registration applications, a lot of people are learning about the fediverse for the first time and they're excited about the idea. I've really enjoyed reading through them 🙂

      shoulderoforion@fedia.ioS This user is from outside of this forum
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      I've been off Twitter for over almost two years now, on to Federated Mastodon and Mbin, and while I've often spoke against BlueSky, having been founded by Jack, after Jack let Twitter become infested with Nazis for engagement, then sold it to Elon Musk who he knew was going to kill it, when the world started to come to an end two weeks ago, I needed to be plugged in, so signed up for a BlueSky account. There's simply not enough communication happening on Mastodon, not enough people, not discussing the things I'm interested in.

      The Fediverse is also a sewer of both overt and covert Antisemitism, where any pro Jewish or pro Israel content is mysteriously "moderated" by antisemites under the guise of political progressivism, which makes it so much less attractive.

      So I swallowed my hatred of Jack, and have been "skeeting" on BlueSky just as I did Twitter for all those years, blocking out the Jew hate there (it is legion), and realizing in the end, that's more important to me, connection to live events and discussion as they're happening to get the best collective overview of any given event

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        I've been off Twitter for over almost two years now, on to Federated Mastodon and Mbin, and while I've often spoke against BlueSky, having been founded by Jack, after Jack let Twitter become infested with Nazis for engagement, then sold it to Elon Musk who he knew was going to kill it, when the world started to come to an end two weeks ago, I needed to be plugged in, so signed up for a BlueSky account. There's simply not enough communication happening on Mastodon, not enough people, not discussing the things I'm interested in.

        The Fediverse is also a sewer of both overt and covert Antisemitism, where any pro Jewish or pro Israel content is mysteriously "moderated" by antisemites under the guise of political progressivism, which makes it so much less attractive.

        So I swallowed my hatred of Jack, and have been "skeeting" on BlueSky just as I did Twitter for all those years, blocking out the Jew hate there (it is legion), and realizing in the end, that's more important to me, connection to live events and discussion as they're happening to get the best collective overview of any given event

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        I see a lot of anti Zionist stuff here. but nothing anti Semitic.

        just my 2c.

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        • otter@lemmy.caO [email protected]

          If you've been sitting on making a post about your favorite instance, this could be a good opportunity to do so.

          Going by our registration applications, a lot of people are learning about the fediverse for the first time and they're excited about the idea. I've really enjoyed reading through them 🙂

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          This is fantastic to see.

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            Nice try Jacob

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              The Fediverse is also a sewer of both overt and covert Antisemitism

              Is this a problem unique to the Fediverse, or is this a case that it's more rampant here? Or does it only seem like it?

              My feeds are fairly well curated, or perhaps you might say "blinkered", so I don't see a lot of it. Or maybe I don't see what's right in front of me, which is why I ask, since you definitely see it better than I can.

              (This is not an attempt at a bad faith argument; I'm firmly anti-anti-Semitism, and I'm not saying it's not there. Frankly, I'd be surprised if there wasn't any. Anywhere there's people, their prejudices generally follow.)

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                Having seen many of your comments across lemmy, I feel like you equate a lot of criticism of the state of Israel’s policies and actions with antisemitism. I acknowledge people who hate Jews exist and are definitely on the internet, but I find knee jerk accusations of antisemitism to be intellectually lazy.

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                  The Fediverse is also a sewer of both overt and covert Antisemitism

                  Is this a problem unique to the Fediverse, or is this a case that it's more rampant here? Or does it only seem like it?

                  My feeds are fairly well curated, or perhaps you might say "blinkered", so I don't see a lot of it. Or maybe I don't see what's right in front of me, which is why I ask, since you definitely see it better than I can.

                  (This is not an attempt at a bad faith argument; I'm firmly anti-anti-Semitism, and I'm not saying it's not there. Frankly, I'd be surprised if there wasn't any. Anywhere there's people, their prejudices generally follow.)

                  shoulderoforion@fedia.ioS This user is from outside of this forum
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                  "Lemmy" seems to have be started, and disseminated, by the Hard European Tankie Left, who Administer and Moderate most of it's instances, and what seems to inform the ongoing moderation of any Pro Israel or Pro Jewish voice that has the temerity to defend itself. Lemmy Kilmister owned the largest personal collection of Nazi memorabilia in the world for years up until his death, and just like every other monster you've ever heard of who made that particular obsession the centerpiece of their interest, it probably should have factored in when naming a social media 'verse after. I fully expect all my comments on this to be mysteriously "moderated" as well.

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                  • otter@lemmy.caO [email protected]

                    If you've been sitting on making a post about your favorite instance, this could be a good opportunity to do so.

                    Going by our registration applications, a lot of people are learning about the fediverse for the first time and they're excited about the idea. I've really enjoyed reading through them 🙂

                    legolas@fedit.plL This user is from outside of this forum
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                    It's crazy how the wind changed. Does anyone remeber the almost exact same thing 4 years ago, when people on the right side of political spectrum shared alternatives to big tech from their point ov view? GAB.COM, PARLER, BRAVE, DUCKDUCKGO etc

                    XD

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                    • otter@lemmy.caO [email protected]

                      If you've been sitting on making a post about your favorite instance, this could be a good opportunity to do so.

                      Going by our registration applications, a lot of people are learning about the fediverse for the first time and they're excited about the idea. I've really enjoyed reading through them 🙂

                      sabrew4k3@lazysoci.alS This user is from outside of this forum
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                      Does that Late Show with John Oliver have a presence in the Fediverse?

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                      • otter@lemmy.caO [email protected]

                        If you've been sitting on making a post about your favorite instance, this could be a good opportunity to do so.

                        Going by our registration applications, a lot of people are learning about the fediverse for the first time and they're excited about the idea. I've really enjoyed reading through them 🙂

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                        Mom we are on the TV!

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                        • baronvonj@lemmy.worldB This user is from outside of this forum
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                          Jack isn't involved with BlueSky anymore. He left the board when they told him to fuck off with his push to get rid of moderation.

                          I've got nothing to add to the other replies on your mischaracterization of antio-Zionist as anti-Semitism.

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                          • shoulderoforion@fedia.ioS [email protected]

                            "Lemmy" seems to have be started, and disseminated, by the Hard European Tankie Left, who Administer and Moderate most of it's instances, and what seems to inform the ongoing moderation of any Pro Israel or Pro Jewish voice that has the temerity to defend itself. Lemmy Kilmister owned the largest personal collection of Nazi memorabilia in the world for years up until his death, and just like every other monster you've ever heard of who made that particular obsession the centerpiece of their interest, it probably should have factored in when naming a social media 'verse after. I fully expect all my comments on this to be mysteriously "moderated" as well.

                            baronvonj@lemmy.worldB This user is from outside of this forum
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                            Hard European Tankie Left, who Administer and Moderate most of it's instances

                            Weapons grade balognium. There's ml and Lemmygrad, sure, but that's not "most" instances by a long shot.

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                            • baronvonj@lemmy.worldB [email protected]

                              Jack isn't involved with BlueSky anymore. He left the board when they told him to fuck off with his push to get rid of moderation.

                              I've got nothing to add to the other replies on your mischaracterization of antio-Zionist as anti-Semitism.

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                              Jack is still the single largest shareholder of private Bluesky stock (beacause he founded it and never ceded his controlling percentage to anyone) "The Foundation" controls a certain amount, Jack controls the rest, surprise, the "leaving BlueSky" was his agreed stepping away from the board, dude didn't give up his stock, lol. If anyone tells you Jack isn't involved with BlueSky any more, you should really block them for either being willfully ignorant, or purposefully mistrustful.

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                                Having seen many of your comments across lemmy, I feel like you equate a lot of criticism of the state of Israel’s policies and actions with antisemitism. I acknowledge people who hate Jews exist and are definitely on the internet, but I find knee jerk accusations of antisemitism to be intellectually lazy.

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                                seriously - too many people see criticism of Israel's government and read it as condemnation of all Jews. As if it's the case that that government represents all Jewish people worldwide (or even all Jewish people in Israel...!)

                                It's like people are thinking that wanting Israel to stop its genocide also means there should be another genocide targeting Jews?? Nuance beyond that sort of black-and-white polarized viewpoint seems to be increasingly dead.

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                                  Mom we are on the TV!

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                                  we

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                                  • otter@lemmy.caO [email protected]

                                    If you've been sitting on making a post about your favorite instance, this could be a good opportunity to do so.

                                    Going by our registration applications, a lot of people are learning about the fediverse for the first time and they're excited about the idea. I've really enjoyed reading through them 🙂

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                                    Anyone have a link that works for Canadians, you MONSTERS?

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                                      If BlueSky is full of Jew hate, "it's legion", but you’re still using it over Mastodon and Mbin, doesn’t that contradict the idea that antisemitism makes a platform unattractive? If it were your main issue, wouldn’t both be equally bad? Seems like the deciding factor is engagement for you personally, not what moderation happens or doesn't happen.

                                      If antisemitism were the real deal-breaker, you wouldn’t be on BlueSky either.

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                                      • sabrew4k3@lazysoci.alS [email protected]

                                        Does that Late Show with John Oliver have a presence in the Fediverse?

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                                        Someone on mastodon told me, if you haven't found someone on fedi, you ate probably not looking hard enough. But no, I don't think they are on fedi

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                                        • shoulderoforion@fedia.ioS [email protected]

                                          Jack is still the single largest shareholder of private Bluesky stock (beacause he founded it and never ceded his controlling percentage to anyone) "The Foundation" controls a certain amount, Jack controls the rest, surprise, the "leaving BlueSky" was his agreed stepping away from the board, dude didn't give up his stock, lol. If anyone tells you Jack isn't involved with BlueSky any more, you should really block them for either being willfully ignorant, or purposefully mistrustful.

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                                          And what about the antisemitism claims?

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