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World Running Out of Euphemisms for Genocide in Gaza, UN Warns — The Shovel

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    Meanwhile...

    The death toll in Sudan's ongoing civil war is estimated to be significantly higher than previously reported, with studies suggesting that over 150,000 people may have died since the conflict began in April 2023. The majority of these deaths are attributed to violence, preventable diseases, and starvation, particularly affecting vulnerable populations in regions like Khartoum and Darfur.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crln9lk51dro

    Doesn't get as much attention because why? Muslim on Muslim? Brown on Brown? And yet it involves (unlike Gaza) systemic targeting of civilians based on ethnicity.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darfur_genocide

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    Doesn’t get as much attention because why? Muslim on Muslim? Brown on Brown? And yet it involves (unlike Gaza) systemic targeting of civilians based on ethnicity.

    Brown on Black

    Herder on Farmer

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      Occupation of Gaza?

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      As others said, actually do research before rushing to the defense of anyone.

      Just one example of the occupation is Israel controls all water in Gaza, including rain water

      https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/campaigns/2017/11/the-occupation-of-water/

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        Obvious? You ignore the definition.

        For starters Genocide is killing of people, targeted by ethnicity. Do you think that Israel are such bad shots that they can only manage to kill 2½% of Gazans (⅓ of them militants) while ⅔ of Jews were killed in the Holocaust?

        ProPals like Ireland are trying to change the legal definition of genocide in order to make the false equivalence.

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        #30

        Genocide doesn't count unless you kill over 66% of people. Literally you can kill 65% of people in a country and it doesn't count, it's a life hack that makes the ICC go "blast it!". Israel said so.

        On a real note, using Jewish genocide in this disingenuous way is actual antisemitism.

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        • S [email protected]

          Meanwhile...

          The death toll in Sudan's ongoing civil war is estimated to be significantly higher than previously reported, with studies suggesting that over 150,000 people may have died since the conflict began in April 2023. The majority of these deaths are attributed to violence, preventable diseases, and starvation, particularly affecting vulnerable populations in regions like Khartoum and Darfur.

          https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crln9lk51dro

          Doesn't get as much attention because why? Muslim on Muslim? Brown on Brown? And yet it involves (unlike Gaza) systemic targeting of civilians based on ethnicity.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darfur_genocide

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          #31

          American here. Israel's genocide is more relevant here because our country is their official ally. We have few/no ties to Sudan. It's not a relative horror thing, it's a "if I don't speak up, I directly support genocide" thing.

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            How does a population increase during a genocide? Why is Israel doing everything possible to avoid civilian casualties if they are committing genocide? What do you believe Hamas level of responsibility is for this “genocide” if they are using children as human shields and stealing the 3200 calories per person worth of aid that Israel sent into Gaza for every person for 8 months? Why would Israel be providing water and electricity to Gaza if they are trying to commit genocide? Why did Hamas say their first action once they defeat Israel is to commit a genocide against homosexuals? Why did Hamas start a war they knew they couldn’t win? Why won’t Hamas give back the hostages? Why did Hamas attack civilians instead of focusing on military targets? Why did Hamas take pleasure in killing babies and children and raping women? Why are women second class citizens in Gaza? Why do the people of Palestine not remove Hamas? Why have the Palestinian people started wars in every Arab nation they have been “refugees” in? Why do Arab countries refuse to take Palestinians as refugees? Why did Egypt build an even bigger wall than Israel to keep the Gazans out of Egypt? Why did Egypt refuse to take the Gaza Strip as part of their country when it was offered to them by Israel? Why did the Jordanians and Syria refuse similar deals? Why has Israel been called war mongers when they have started 0 of the 6 wars they have been in since 1948? Why doesn’t Israel have the right to protect itself, but Gaza has the right to exterminate Jews? Why is Mein Kampf the second most popular book in Palestine behind the Quran? What happens in Gaza if you burn a Quran in the middle of the street vs what happens in Israel if you burn a Torah in the middle of the street? How do Arabs in Israel get treated vs Jews in Palestine? What happened to all of the Christians and Jews in the Middle East? Why is Israel the only Democracy in the Middle East?

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              How does a population increase during a genocide? Why is Israel doing everything possible to avoid civilian casualties if they are committing genocide? What do you believe Hamas level of responsibility is for this “genocide” if they are using children as human shields and stealing the 3200 calories per person worth of aid that Israel sent into Gaza for every person for 8 months? Why would Israel be providing water and electricity to Gaza if they are trying to commit genocide? Why did Hamas say their first action once they defeat Israel is to commit a genocide against homosexuals? Why did Hamas start a war they knew they couldn’t win? Why won’t Hamas give back the hostages? Why did Hamas attack civilians instead of focusing on military targets? Why did Hamas take pleasure in killing babies and children and raping women? Why are women second class citizens in Gaza? Why do the people of Palestine not remove Hamas? Why have the Palestinian people started wars in every Arab nation they have been “refugees” in? Why do Arab countries refuse to take Palestinians as refugees? Why did Egypt build an even bigger wall than Israel to keep the Gazans out of Egypt? Why did Egypt refuse to take the Gaza Strip as part of their country when it was offered to them by Israel? Why did the Jordanians and Syria refuse similar deals? Why has Israel been called war mongers when they have started 0 of the 6 wars they have been in since 1948? Why doesn’t Israel have the right to protect itself, but Gaza has the right to exterminate Jews? Why is Mein Kampf the second most popular book in Palestine behind the Quran? What happens in Gaza if you burn a Quran in the middle of the street vs what happens in Israel if you burn a Torah in the middle of the street? How do Arabs in Israel get treated vs Jews in Palestine? What happened to all of the Christians and Jews in the Middle East? Why is Israel the only Democracy in the Middle East?

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              Why do you push such obvious lies and propaganda? Why do you push such obvious lies and propaganda? Why do you push such obvious lies and propaganda? Why do you push such obvious lies and propaganda? Why do you push such obvious lies and propaganda? Why do you push such obvious lies and propaganda? Why do you push such obvious lies and propaganda? Why do you push such obvious lies and propaganda? Why do you push such obvious lies and propaganda? Why do you push such obvious lies and propaganda? Why do you push such obvious lies and propaganda? Why do you push such obvious lies and Why do you push such obvious lies and propaganda? Why do you push such obvious lies and propaganda? Why do you push such obvious lies and propaganda? Why do you push such obvious lies and propaganda? Why do you push such obvious lies and propaganda? Why do you push such obvious lies and propaganda? Why do you push such obvious lies and propaganda? Why do you push such obvious lies and propaganda? Why do you push such obvious lies and propaganda? Why do you push such obvious lies and propaganda? Why do you push such obvious lies and propaganda? Why do you push such obvious lies and propaganda? ?

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                How does a population increase during a genocide? Why is Israel doing everything possible to avoid civilian casualties if they are committing genocide? What do you believe Hamas level of responsibility is for this “genocide” if they are using children as human shields and stealing the 3200 calories per person worth of aid that Israel sent into Gaza for every person for 8 months? Why would Israel be providing water and electricity to Gaza if they are trying to commit genocide? Why did Hamas say their first action once they defeat Israel is to commit a genocide against homosexuals? Why did Hamas start a war they knew they couldn’t win? Why won’t Hamas give back the hostages? Why did Hamas attack civilians instead of focusing on military targets? Why did Hamas take pleasure in killing babies and children and raping women? Why are women second class citizens in Gaza? Why do the people of Palestine not remove Hamas? Why have the Palestinian people started wars in every Arab nation they have been “refugees” in? Why do Arab countries refuse to take Palestinians as refugees? Why did Egypt build an even bigger wall than Israel to keep the Gazans out of Egypt? Why did Egypt refuse to take the Gaza Strip as part of their country when it was offered to them by Israel? Why did the Jordanians and Syria refuse similar deals? Why has Israel been called war mongers when they have started 0 of the 6 wars they have been in since 1948? Why doesn’t Israel have the right to protect itself, but Gaza has the right to exterminate Jews? Why is Mein Kampf the second most popular book in Palestine behind the Quran? What happens in Gaza if you burn a Quran in the middle of the street vs what happens in Israel if you burn a Torah in the middle of the street? How do Arabs in Israel get treated vs Jews in Palestine? What happened to all of the Christians and Jews in the Middle East? Why is Israel the only Democracy in the Middle East?

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                You're really not going to like the answers to most of those questions.

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                  How does a population increase during a genocide? Why is Israel doing everything possible to avoid civilian casualties if they are committing genocide? What do you believe Hamas level of responsibility is for this “genocide” if they are using children as human shields and stealing the 3200 calories per person worth of aid that Israel sent into Gaza for every person for 8 months? Why would Israel be providing water and electricity to Gaza if they are trying to commit genocide? Why did Hamas say their first action once they defeat Israel is to commit a genocide against homosexuals? Why did Hamas start a war they knew they couldn’t win? Why won’t Hamas give back the hostages? Why did Hamas attack civilians instead of focusing on military targets? Why did Hamas take pleasure in killing babies and children and raping women? Why are women second class citizens in Gaza? Why do the people of Palestine not remove Hamas? Why have the Palestinian people started wars in every Arab nation they have been “refugees” in? Why do Arab countries refuse to take Palestinians as refugees? Why did Egypt build an even bigger wall than Israel to keep the Gazans out of Egypt? Why did Egypt refuse to take the Gaza Strip as part of their country when it was offered to them by Israel? Why did the Jordanians and Syria refuse similar deals? Why has Israel been called war mongers when they have started 0 of the 6 wars they have been in since 1948? Why doesn’t Israel have the right to protect itself, but Gaza has the right to exterminate Jews? Why is Mein Kampf the second most popular book in Palestine behind the Quran? What happens in Gaza if you burn a Quran in the middle of the street vs what happens in Israel if you burn a Torah in the middle of the street? How do Arabs in Israel get treated vs Jews in Palestine? What happened to all of the Christians and Jews in the Middle East? Why is Israel the only Democracy in the Middle East?

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                  1. That's complete and utter bullshit.
                  2. Palestinians and Hamas are not the same thing.
                  3. Singling out parts of a demographic that you can hate individually helps no-one and hurts everyone except those who profit.
                  4. As such, you are either:
                  • A bot
                  • In league with Israel
                  • Radicalised to hell
                  • A completely horrible person
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                  • S [email protected]

                    Meanwhile...

                    The death toll in Sudan's ongoing civil war is estimated to be significantly higher than previously reported, with studies suggesting that over 150,000 people may have died since the conflict began in April 2023. The majority of these deaths are attributed to violence, preventable diseases, and starvation, particularly affecting vulnerable populations in regions like Khartoum and Darfur.

                    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crln9lk51dro

                    Doesn't get as much attention because why? Muslim on Muslim? Brown on Brown? And yet it involves (unlike Gaza) systemic targeting of civilians based on ethnicity.

                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darfur_genocide

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                    Well go on and make a post about it then. Leaving a comment here to try and draw attention away from Gaza is not going to help you or Sudan.

                    Let me say that again.

                    Leaving a comment here to try and draw attention away from Gaza is not going to help you or Sudan.

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                      How does a population increase during a genocide? Why is Israel doing everything possible to avoid civilian casualties if they are committing genocide? What do you believe Hamas level of responsibility is for this “genocide” if they are using children as human shields and stealing the 3200 calories per person worth of aid that Israel sent into Gaza for every person for 8 months? Why would Israel be providing water and electricity to Gaza if they are trying to commit genocide? Why did Hamas say their first action once they defeat Israel is to commit a genocide against homosexuals? Why did Hamas start a war they knew they couldn’t win? Why won’t Hamas give back the hostages? Why did Hamas attack civilians instead of focusing on military targets? Why did Hamas take pleasure in killing babies and children and raping women? Why are women second class citizens in Gaza? Why do the people of Palestine not remove Hamas? Why have the Palestinian people started wars in every Arab nation they have been “refugees” in? Why do Arab countries refuse to take Palestinians as refugees? Why did Egypt build an even bigger wall than Israel to keep the Gazans out of Egypt? Why did Egypt refuse to take the Gaza Strip as part of their country when it was offered to them by Israel? Why did the Jordanians and Syria refuse similar deals? Why has Israel been called war mongers when they have started 0 of the 6 wars they have been in since 1948? Why doesn’t Israel have the right to protect itself, but Gaza has the right to exterminate Jews? Why is Mein Kampf the second most popular book in Palestine behind the Quran? What happens in Gaza if you burn a Quran in the middle of the street vs what happens in Israel if you burn a Torah in the middle of the street? How do Arabs in Israel get treated vs Jews in Palestine? What happened to all of the Christians and Jews in the Middle East? Why is Israel the only Democracy in the Middle East?

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                      And the pope is Hamas

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