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  • the_picard_maneuver@lemmy.worldT [email protected]
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    Is this why people run Arch instead or atomic linux distros?

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      Is this why people run Arch instead or atomic linux distros?

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      Lol, I had arch tell me that literally last night while I was updating Nvidia drivers. Just reopened dolphin as admin and deleted what I needed to.

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        Visual representation of the first time I ever saw "owner: nobody"

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          I still remember the biggest brainfart moment as a child. I was playing video games on my computer, and kinda just looked around. On the pc was a turbo button, so i pressed it, turbo makes games faster. I looked again and one button said power. I wonder what that doe... I'm dumb.

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          Ah, the turbo button. Where we first learned our devices can lie to us.

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            Now I've learned enough to know that I can easily learn what all that apparent gibberish does with the "man" command, but you have no idea how unbelievably unapproachable this makes Linux look to the uninitiated.

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            This isn't all that different from using CMD on windows. Except that it works better, obviously.

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              Did it work after that?

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              no but he had a second drive and installed xp on it.

              vista was at the bottom of the lake.

              goes to show how old the story is lol.

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                If you're on windows this means you don't own the file. Go to properties security and take ownership.

                The default windows configuration is aimed at old people who will call tech support when they fuck up their PC.

                You can take ownership of pretty much the entire filesystem.

                Windows is actually hugely customizable people just don't.

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                Except when you want to customize it to stop it from updating against your will. Then fuck you, secret code to change your settings and settings that simply do nothing.

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                  I'm not talking about just the files. I'm talking more generally.

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                  That's a weird stance to take since the discussion was about file permissions, and there are absolutely ways around Windows protecting system files just like there are ways around Linux doing the same thing.

                  There are many reasons to criticize Microsoft, but making it difficult for users to fuck up system files isn't one of them. Most users are of the "it's a box filled with magic smoke" variety, and they need to be protected from themselves.

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                      It's the constant war on end users that chased me away from windows.

                      You can't say no to their relentless advertising. It's "maybe later". The pushing to require a Microsoft account. Ads in the start menu. Windows Recall.

                      The list goes on. You get as much agency as Microsoft allows, or you violate your eula and modify the os to remove things you don't want.

                      We didn't know it at the time, but windows 7 was peak windows.

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                      Related joke:

                      Does Microsoft understand consent?

                      Yes / Ask me again later

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                      • archmageazor@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

                        One time Windows told me I needed admin privileges to edit s file. I had admin privileges.

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                        Just because you have admin rights doesn't mean the process you've invoked does. Unless you specifically elevate it or the process asks to elevate, it'll run unprivileged.

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                          Me trying to uninstall edge

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                            Think about this: let’s say you run a program. Do you want that program to be able to take over the computer and read all your files from now on and send the data to a remote third party?

                            Probably not.

                            Permissions were created to stop programs from doing that. By running most software without admin permissions you limit the scope of the damage the software can cause. Software you trust even less should be run with even fewer permissions than a normal user account.

                            The system is imperfect though. A capability-based system is better. It allows the user to control which specific features of the operating system a running program is allowed to access. For example, a program may request access to location services in order to access your GPS coordinates. You can deny this to prevent the program from tracking you without otherwise preventing the software from running.

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                            You forgot the fact that there might be other people using the same computer and they shouldn't be able to access the others files.

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                              Nah removed; root owns me.

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                                sudo chown....

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                                Wrong root password, this incident will be reported

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                                  Me trying to uninstall edge

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                                  Edge is the best browser for downloading much better browsers lol

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                                    Create one command "iownyou" that does tbe following: Change the owner of every file on the computer to the default user and make every file readable, writeable, an executable by anyone or anything on the computer. It may not be secure, but on the bright side, you'll never have permission issues again!

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                                    Until you realize you just screwed up whatever services you may be running that require specific permissions on specific files. Certificates specifically come to mind for my environment.

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                                      You forgot the fact that there might be other people using the same computer and they shouldn't be able to access the others files.

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                                      No I didn’t. Most computers on the planet (phones, tablets, laptops) have only 1 user. The whole multi-user system isn’t obviously useful for these computers.

                                      Everyone knows that multiple user accounts need permissions to prevent users from accessing each other’s files. I didn’t bring it up because it was too obvious.

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                                        I have Windows 10 Pro. I can alter the permissions for anything. If I wanted to, I could delete System32 and fuck the whole thing up.

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                                          Why use a hack when you can just go into properties and take ownership there?

                                          The only thing this does is make a shortcut.

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                                          Because it's a shortcut. That process is annoying.

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