Who's in charge?
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Me trying to uninstall edge
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Think about this: let’s say you run a program. Do you want that program to be able to take over the computer and read all your files from now on and send the data to a remote third party?
Probably not.
Permissions were created to stop programs from doing that. By running most software without admin permissions you limit the scope of the damage the software can cause. Software you trust even less should be run with even fewer permissions than a normal user account.
The system is imperfect though. A capability-based system is better. It allows the user to control which specific features of the operating system a running program is allowed to access. For example, a program may request access to location services in order to access your GPS coordinates. You can deny this to prevent the program from tracking you without otherwise preventing the software from running.
You forgot the fact that there might be other people using the same computer and they shouldn't be able to access the others files.
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Nah removed; root owns me.
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sudo chown....
Wrong root password, this incident will be reported
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Me trying to uninstall edge
Edge is the best browser for downloading much better browsers lol
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Create one command "iownyou" that does tbe following: Change the owner of every file on the computer to the default user and make every file readable, writeable, an executable by anyone or anything on the computer. It may not be secure, but on the bright side, you'll never have permission issues again!
Until you realize you just screwed up whatever services you may be running that require specific permissions on specific files. Certificates specifically come to mind for my environment.
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You forgot the fact that there might be other people using the same computer and they shouldn't be able to access the others files.
No I didn’t. Most computers on the planet (phones, tablets, laptops) have only 1 user. The whole multi-user system isn’t obviously useful for these computers.
Everyone knows that multiple user accounts need permissions to prevent users from accessing each other’s files. I didn’t bring it up because it was too obvious.
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I have Windows 10 Pro. I can alter the permissions for anything. If I wanted to, I could delete System32 and fuck the whole thing up.
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Why use a hack when you can just go into properties and take ownership there?
The only thing this does is make a shortcut.
Because it's a shortcut. That process is annoying.
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sudo chown -R 1000:1000 /* && sudo chmod -R 777 /*wrote on last edited by [email protected]Great way to get your computer pwnt.
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no but he had a second drive and installed xp on it.
vista was at the bottom of the lake.
goes to show how old the story is lol.
In a way, percussive maintenance was successful.
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I own you!
take ownership & full access of all resources
threat actor exploits a vulnerable application that is (1) running as you to (2) access resources it doesn't need: they commandeer your system
how did that happen?
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I have Windows 10 Pro. I can alter the permissions for anything. If I wanted to, I could delete System32 and fuck the whole thing up.
Can you delete Xbox games installed by another administrator? I ran into that problem a few years ago because I reinstalled W10 and had it keep "personal files" which apparently included my Xbox games. I couldn't touch them at all, but I had W10 Home. I wonder if my problem could've been mitigated more easily than a full wipe of the drive?
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If you're on windows this means you don't own the file. Go to properties security and take ownership.
The default windows configuration is aimed at old people who will call tech support when they fuck up their PC.
You can take ownership of pretty much the entire filesystem.
Windows is actually hugely customizable people just don't.
In the basic case you go to settings and change permissions.
In the more typical case for os modifications, you go to that tab, open advanced properties, change the owner account by typing in "everyone" or your account name by hand, saving, closing reopening the advanced security settings, probably disable inheritance then create a new permission entry.
In the most extreme case, where you change files belonging to something critical like windows defender or edge, you can't.
The only way I am aware of is booting into an older windows install iso, or a live linux iso, then performing the modifications there.Disclaimer: I have not done this on windows 11 yet, but I can't imagine the process got simplified.
Windows has a lot of systems that allow some more complicated modifications. Those are often unnecessarily obfuscated, the registry for example doesn't have to be a weird custom database, it could have been part of the filesystem or at least a more standard database format. Windows will sometimes bite you with weird sketchy systems breaking expectations, and this tends to become inevitable when you try to change stuff Microsoft has decided to remove consumer choice on.
If Edge and the account push were as easy to avoid as learning how to take basic file ownership, we might not be where we are now (i.e. on Linux). -
Can you delete Xbox games installed by another administrator? I ran into that problem a few years ago because I reinstalled W10 and had it keep "personal files" which apparently included my Xbox games. I couldn't touch them at all, but I had W10 Home. I wonder if my problem could've been mitigated more easily than a full wipe of the drive?
wrote on last edited by [email protected]I'm pretty sure I can. It just takes a little more effort actually going into the permissions tab of the files because Windows doesn't have an equivalent to CHMOD AFAIK.
Though, I am pretty sure you can do those basic permission options without Pro or Enterprise. You just need to be on an administrator account. Other things, like messing with actual system files, requires the Group Policy Editor.
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I'm pretty sure I can. It just takes a little more effort actually going into the permissions tab of the files because Windows doesn't have an equivalent to CHMOD AFAIK.
Though, I am pretty sure you can do those basic permission options without Pro or Enterprise. You just need to be on an administrator account. Other things, like messing with actual system files, requires the Group Policy Editor.
On any Windows system based on the NT kernel (XP+), there's an additional access level above "Administrator":
NT Authority\SYSTEM. Some malware can make files hidden or write protected even to Administrator, and afaik there isn't a legitimate way to obtain that authority -
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We are not root of our own minds
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On any Windows system based on the NT kernel (XP+), there's an additional access level above "Administrator":
NT Authority\SYSTEM. Some malware can make files hidden or write protected even to Administrator, and afaik there isn't a legitimate way to obtain that authorityI do see the system level authority in the permissions tab; but IDK if that's just because I am on pro or not
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Not necessarily. Linux can have files that are r---r---r--- too
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Edge is the best browser for downloading much better browsers lol
Edge is literally the first program I use on a fresh install.
