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  • the_picard_maneuver@lemmy.worldT [email protected]
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    Wrong OS.

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      Now I've learned enough to know that I can easily learn what all that apparent gibberish does with the "man" command, but you have no idea how unbelievably unapproachable this makes Linux look to the uninitiated.

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      Create one command "iownyou" that does tbe following: Change the owner of every file on the computer to the default user and make every file readable, writeable, an executable by anyone or anything on the computer. It may not be secure, but on the bright side, you'll never have permission issues again!

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        You needed permission from the SYSTEM or TrustedInstaller account.

        Which you can give to yourself if you are admin.

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        Last time I did that it didn't work so I figured I will restart and it will recognize then. Windows got a 30 minute update.

        When I logged back in my account was gone and still asked for a password. My old password didn't work.

        Recovery option also fucked my grub. (Probably just the EFI now that I think about it.)

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          When you switch to an admin account on Windows, there are still files owned by "TrustedInstaller" that you can't touch, and processes owned by "System" that you can't terminate.

          Linux doesn't have that. When you switch to root, you can kill any process. You can modify or delete any file.

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          #44

          Sometimes (often?) at your own peril!

          To anyone else following, if you're mucking around with "I am Root/Admin. OBEY ME!!" you had better have important data backed up!

          I once thought an unlisted BTRFS snapshot was an orphan folder taking up space. No permission? Nonsense! Obey my commands!

          Suddenly not even terminal commands worked. ("Command 'cd'/'ls'/whatever not found")

          . . . it was the "writable snapshot" currently mounted, and the system was so borked it couldn't rollback, and I needed to completely reinstall.

          Fortunately I had things backed up on another drive. Live and learn! But that could have been TRAGIC.

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          • the_picard_maneuver@lemmy.worldT [email protected]
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            Ah ah ah! You didn’t say the magic word!

            sudo edit the file!

            …

            Ah ah ah! You didn’t say the secret word right after!

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              Can't shutdown there is a running program

              /Me finger immediately goes to the power switch

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              I still remember the biggest brainfart moment as a child. I was playing video games on my computer, and kinda just looked around. On the pc was a turbo button, so i pressed it, turbo makes games faster. I looked again and one button said power. I wonder what that doe... I'm dumb.

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                sudo chown....

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                  Last time I did that it didn't work so I figured I will restart and it will recognize then. Windows got a 30 minute update.

                  When I logged back in my account was gone and still asked for a password. My old password didn't work.

                  Recovery option also fucked my grub. (Probably just the EFI now that I think about it.)

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                  That last bit about GRUB is why I never put Windows on the same drive as my Arch, btw install. If they both have their own EFI partitions, Windows doesn't mess with Linux.

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                    Think about this: let’s say you run a program. Do you want that program to be able to take over the computer and read all your files from now on and send the data to a remote third party?

                    Probably not.

                    Permissions were created to stop programs from doing that. By running most software without admin permissions you limit the scope of the damage the software can cause. Software you trust even less should be run with even fewer permissions than a normal user account.

                    The system is imperfect though. A capability-based system is better. It allows the user to control which specific features of the operating system a running program is allowed to access. For example, a program may request access to location services in order to access your GPS coordinates. You can deny this to prevent the program from tracking you without otherwise preventing the software from running.

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                      Even Windows 11 still has all the options Windows 7 had, and plenty more. Stop swallowing the Linux propaganda.

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                      I just riced my work computer, let me fucken tell ya about tricking out a windows machine: its fucking embarrassing. Not that its fundamentally different than customizing Linux, for both you download apps (or packages). But its a clumsy ass mess on windows that has to overlay the existing shit, on Linux the only shit that exists is what I want. I dont have to deal with an onery built in taskbar, or trick a built in window manager to be tiling. The one I pick does what I want.

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                        had a friend that was having problems with his PC and windows kept bitching about he didn't have permissions. he ripped out the harddrive with it still powered on and threw it off his balcony into the lake screaming, "I fucking own you!"

                        epic moment in my life to witness such an event.

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                          Even Windows 11 still has all the options Windows 7 had, and plenty more. Stop swallowing the Linux propaganda.

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                          It's the constant war on end users that chased me away from windows.

                          You can't say no to their relentless advertising. It's "maybe later". The pushing to require a Microsoft account. Ads in the start menu. Windows Recall.

                          The list goes on. You get as much agency as Microsoft allows, or you violate your eula and modify the os to remove things you don't want.

                          We didn't know it at the time, but windows 7 was peak windows.

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                            "takeown /f 😄
                            icacls c:" changed my life. Windows literally has trusted installer listed as owning most of your hard drive on every fresh install, but that is negotiable. at least for the stuff you need.

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                              had a friend that was having problems with his PC and windows kept bitching about he didn't have permissions. he ripped out the harddrive with it still powered on and threw it off his balcony into the lake screaming, "I fucking own you!"

                              epic moment in my life to witness such an event.

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                              Did it work after that?

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                                My work laptop had a pop-up from an application that basically said "we couldn't restart last time, so you e got 15 minutes until we reboot your computer" with no way to cancel or prevent the reboot.

                                Me: the fuck you are

                                * proceeds to kill the service and process from admin command line*

                                Get fucked fortinet, I'll reboot when I'm gods damned ready

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                                • dozzi92@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

                                  Did it work after that?

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                                  No, but this time the owner knows why it doesn't work. Big difference in IT.

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                                    Is this why people run Arch instead or atomic linux distros?

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                                      Is this why people run Arch instead or atomic linux distros?

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                                      Lol, I had arch tell me that literally last night while I was updating Nvidia drivers. Just reopened dolphin as admin and deleted what I needed to.

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                                        Visual representation of the first time I ever saw "owner: nobody"

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                                          I still remember the biggest brainfart moment as a child. I was playing video games on my computer, and kinda just looked around. On the pc was a turbo button, so i pressed it, turbo makes games faster. I looked again and one button said power. I wonder what that doe... I'm dumb.

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                                          Ah, the turbo button. Where we first learned our devices can lie to us.

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