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    Europeans still aren't buying Teslas with figures out Wednesday showing sales plunged for a fifth month in a row in May, a blow to investors who had hoped anger toward Elon Musk would have faded by now.

    Tesla sales fell 28% last month in 30 European countries even as the overall market for electric vehicles expanded sharply, according to the European Automobile Manufacturers’ Association. The poor showing comes after Tesla's billionaire CEO had promised a “major rebound” was coming last month, adding to a recent buying frenzy among investors.

    They were selling on Wednesday, pushing the prices down more than 4% in early afternoon trading.

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    Sad part is that they’re getting outcompeted by the Chinese EVs, not the European carmakers. The whole money will just fund CCP’s ambitions instead of US ambitions, neither of which is good for European future

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      But is it needed on anything other than a Tesla?

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      I've had a Ford (mid range SUV) and a Toyota (base model sedan) which were both damaged whilst parked, and nobody left a note. Lots of people posting in the community groups about carpark damage and no notes being left, and no luck with local cameras.

      So yes, it is needed.

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        It's been a while since I looked at EVs, but my (US) experience at the time was that Tesla was one of very few companies offering sedan-shaped EVs. The US market was full of crossovers & SUVs (like Rivian), and that form factor seems antagonistic to many of the things that make high performance, long range EVs: terrible aerodynamics, high body weight, poor visibility... They're big enough to fill will batteries to compensate for the poor efficiency, but that just raises costs.

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        Fair points! In my mind I guess I was thinking cyber truck vs. Rivian truck.

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          It's not rare for the first company to bring a product to market to not be the top dog once other companies get involved.

          For instance, Kodak pretty much invented the digital camera, but Canon and Nikon are the clear leaders now while Kodak's digital camera division was sold off.

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          I love Snappiness's videos about Kodak and I'll never sell my lumpy little DCS Pro 14n 🙂

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            It’s not rare for the first company to bring a product to market to not be the top dog once other companies get involved.

            Except Tesla wasn't the first mass market EV. It wasn't even the second. The first would be the GM EV1 in 1997:

            Many would argue that the EV1 doesn't count because it was on old technology. Fine then, the Nissan Leaf from 2009 then sporting its lithium battery:

            Tesla Model S brought performance, range and styling that both of those were missing. However, we don't need Tesla anymore in the world if Musk is still benefiting from it.

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            Electric cars have been around for a very long time. According to Wikipedia, in 1912, 38% of 33,842 cars in the US were electric.

            I think that Tesla showed that a modern performance car could be electric. It made electric cars cool again.

            I would never be caught in a Tesla though.

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              I am unaware of any other EV that has sentry mode on the cameras like that on the Tesla. Would absolutely love to be proven wrong.

              AFAIK Kia has a Korean only release EV6 that had it, but none of the other options utilise the whole suite of cameras to record.

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              A lot of smart features are not even being dreamed of by other companies... Hell, the most you might get is scanning your phone to just open the car, but not drive.

              Tesla is technologically 2 generations ahead. But no one here will admit it. But do go to a dealer and ask how they compare, they at least will be honest. The most honest was Porche in my experience and surprisingly, BYD was good at listing all the things not in their car (with million excuses how it's okay and I'll get used to it).

              The worst? Ford. MG also tried to make shit up how it might be added in software! Bitch please, you haven't got over the air updates working.

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                Sad part is that they’re getting outcompeted by the Chinese EVs, not the European carmakers. The whole money will just fund CCP’s ambitions instead of US ambitions, neither of which is good for European future

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                I hate how much BYD pays people off. And they're suing people in China for "damaging their brand". I guess so did Tesla that one time, but only one of them runs slave camps (including outside of China).

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                  Europeans still aren't buying Teslas with figures out Wednesday showing sales plunged for a fifth month in a row in May, a blow to investors who had hoped anger toward Elon Musk would have faded by now.

                  Tesla sales fell 28% last month in 30 European countries even as the overall market for electric vehicles expanded sharply, according to the European Automobile Manufacturers’ Association. The poor showing comes after Tesla's billionaire CEO had promised a “major rebound” was coming last month, adding to a recent buying frenzy among investors.

                  They were selling on Wednesday, pushing the prices down more than 4% in early afternoon trading.

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                  🤣 🤣

                  a blow to investors who had hoped anger toward Elon Musk would have faded by now

                  Methinks they may have underestimated Elonazi's dickishness, stupidity, arrogance, and power to piss people off...

                  OMG that's funny. 🤣 🤣

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                  • B [email protected]

                    Europeans still aren't buying Teslas with figures out Wednesday showing sales plunged for a fifth month in a row in May, a blow to investors who had hoped anger toward Elon Musk would have faded by now.

                    Tesla sales fell 28% last month in 30 European countries even as the overall market for electric vehicles expanded sharply, according to the European Automobile Manufacturers’ Association. The poor showing comes after Tesla's billionaire CEO had promised a “major rebound” was coming last month, adding to a recent buying frenzy among investors.

                    They were selling on Wednesday, pushing the prices down more than 4% in early afternoon trading.

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                    Needs to be in the negative worldwide.

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                      I've had a Ford (mid range SUV) and a Toyota (base model sedan) which were both damaged whilst parked, and nobody left a note. Lots of people posting in the community groups about carpark damage and no notes being left, and no luck with local cameras.

                      So yes, it is needed.

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                      And that's a very fair point, but at least around me, the deductible costs about 100€ if someone damages my car while it's legally parked. I'm not going to worry much about someone dinging my car once in a blue moon with that kind of deductible, and I'm definately not going to pay ekstra to get a fancy camera system.

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                        It's not rare for the first company to bring a product to market to not be the top dog once other companies get involved.

                        For instance, Kodak pretty much invented the digital camera, but Canon and Nikon are the clear leaders now while Kodak's digital camera division was sold off.

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                        Xerox has entered the chat, with the first commercial photocopier, the GUI, laser printer, and computer mouse, in addition to the ones you think of.

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                          Europeans still aren't buying Teslas with figures out Wednesday showing sales plunged for a fifth month in a row in May, a blow to investors who had hoped anger toward Elon Musk would have faded by now.

                          Tesla sales fell 28% last month in 30 European countries even as the overall market for electric vehicles expanded sharply, according to the European Automobile Manufacturers’ Association. The poor showing comes after Tesla's billionaire CEO had promised a “major rebound” was coming last month, adding to a recent buying frenzy among investors.

                          They were selling on Wednesday, pushing the prices down more than 4% in early afternoon trading.

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                          Looks like Elon took the “shut your stupid fucking mouth up” advice. Too bad the damage to his image is irreversible. Oh well. I’m afraid I’m all out of tiny violins as well.

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                            Europeans still aren't buying Teslas with figures out Wednesday showing sales plunged for a fifth month in a row in May, a blow to investors who had hoped anger toward Elon Musk would have faded by now.

                            Tesla sales fell 28% last month in 30 European countries even as the overall market for electric vehicles expanded sharply, according to the European Automobile Manufacturers’ Association. The poor showing comes after Tesla's billionaire CEO had promised a “major rebound” was coming last month, adding to a recent buying frenzy among investors.

                            They were selling on Wednesday, pushing the prices down more than 4% in early afternoon trading.

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                            Elon, take that bitch! how do you like it? Don’t like it? Well here it comes anyway!

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                              Europeans still aren't buying Teslas with figures out Wednesday showing sales plunged for a fifth month in a row in May, a blow to investors who had hoped anger toward Elon Musk would have faded by now.

                              Tesla sales fell 28% last month in 30 European countries even as the overall market for electric vehicles expanded sharply, according to the European Automobile Manufacturers’ Association. The poor showing comes after Tesla's billionaire CEO had promised a “major rebound” was coming last month, adding to a recent buying frenzy among investors.

                              They were selling on Wednesday, pushing the prices down more than 4% in early afternoon trading.

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                              Mmmmmm...delicious

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                                I am unaware of any other EV that has sentry mode on the cameras like that on the Tesla. Would absolutely love to be proven wrong.

                                AFAIK Kia has a Korean only release EV6 that had it, but none of the other options utilise the whole suite of cameras to record.

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                                Why is sentry mode the the bar to cross?

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                                  Why is sentry mode the the bar to cross?

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                                  It's not specifically "the" bar, but the original comment was saying they didn't see how Tesla would even be considered, and I felt this feature is one reason why someone may still consider a Tesla.

                                  For me, my dash cameras have come in handy when my vehicle was running, but the hardwire mode has not been able to handle what I wanted it to. I want my next vehicle (whenever that may be) to be an improvement over what I already have. I have personally had my vehicles damaged more than once whilst it was parked, and I have always parked well. Sentry mode would have been very bloody useful to have the responsible parties pay up. Instead, I was left with a damaged car, which was notably rather heartbreaking when one incident occurred within the first month of ownership.

                                  EDIT: My motorcycle was hit and if I hadn't had known, I wouldn't have been aware enough to take it to the shop to be inspected in case any of the internals had been damaged. Sometimes damage can be internal and without an alert, you would be putting yourself in danger.

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                                    Europeans still aren't buying Teslas with figures out Wednesday showing sales plunged for a fifth month in a row in May, a blow to investors who had hoped anger toward Elon Musk would have faded by now.

                                    Tesla sales fell 28% last month in 30 European countries even as the overall market for electric vehicles expanded sharply, according to the European Automobile Manufacturers’ Association. The poor showing comes after Tesla's billionaire CEO had promised a “major rebound” was coming last month, adding to a recent buying frenzy among investors.

                                    They were selling on Wednesday, pushing the prices down more than 4% in early afternoon trading.

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                                    Well, at least his rockets aren’t blowi— oh, too bad.

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                                      Europeans still aren't buying Teslas with figures out Wednesday showing sales plunged for a fifth month in a row in May, a blow to investors who had hoped anger toward Elon Musk would have faded by now.

                                      Tesla sales fell 28% last month in 30 European countries even as the overall market for electric vehicles expanded sharply, according to the European Automobile Manufacturers’ Association. The poor showing comes after Tesla's billionaire CEO had promised a “major rebound” was coming last month, adding to a recent buying frenzy among investors.

                                      They were selling on Wednesday, pushing the prices down more than 4% in early afternoon trading.

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                                      Ohhhh, nooohhhh...! How teeeeerrible...! I'm shóck!

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                                        Europeans still aren't buying Teslas with figures out Wednesday showing sales plunged for a fifth month in a row in May, a blow to investors who had hoped anger toward Elon Musk would have faded by now.

                                        Tesla sales fell 28% last month in 30 European countries even as the overall market for electric vehicles expanded sharply, according to the European Automobile Manufacturers’ Association. The poor showing comes after Tesla's billionaire CEO had promised a “major rebound” was coming last month, adding to a recent buying frenzy among investors.

                                        They were selling on Wednesday, pushing the prices down more than 4% in early afternoon trading.

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                                        Well, at least his big robotaxi trial is going smoothl— uh, oh no.

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                                          It’s not rare for the first company to bring a product to market to not be the top dog once other companies get involved.

                                          Except Tesla wasn't the first mass market EV. It wasn't even the second. The first would be the GM EV1 in 1997:

                                          Many would argue that the EV1 doesn't count because it was on old technology. Fine then, the Nissan Leaf from 2009 then sporting its lithium battery:

                                          Tesla Model S brought performance, range and styling that both of those were missing. However, we don't need Tesla anymore in the world if Musk is still benefiting from it.

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                                          Those advancements were made possible by the Roadster, which was the true pioneering product that made EVs cool again. A car that was dreamed up and invented by Martin Eberhard, and would go on to be built by someone else that gave him the shittiest end of the most shit-covered stick there ever was.

                                          Everything that has given Tesla a reputation as an imnovative company was either done by the original inventor or their amazing engineers over the years.

                                          Elon brings money and celebrity recognition to the company. If the celebrity recognition turns and becomes a net negative, the money is going to start becoming an issue too because his loans might get called and then he's got nothing to bring to the table. I choose to dream about that future right now.

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