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Do you opt out of the facial scan at the airport?

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  • cm0002@lemmy.worldC [email protected]

    Original question by @[email protected]

    For those of you who travel in the united states, you'll know they now have facial recognition scans when checking your id. You can opt out by telling them you don't want to take the picture. I do every time, but I wonder what the point of the scan is if you can just opt out. That given, why do you think they do it? What prevents them from forcing you to do it?

    To those of you who live outside of the united states, have you seen a similar increase in security at your airports?

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    I don't know what face scan as I haven't flown into the states in a very long time.

    In Canada we have a machine at customs that takes your picture when you come into the country. This isn't optional. I take the opportunity to make the absolute most ridiculous face I can every time and it brings me copious amount of joy. It then prints out a little slip that I give to the customs person at the gate who is usually chatting and doesn't even look at it. I imagine those slips go somewhere, though I couldn't really care less where.

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      https://news.cgtn.com/news/3d3d674e3145544e78457a6333566d54/share.html

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      Thanks... I hate it 😞 but what can I do? Haven't been in an airport in ages.

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        Yes, every time. Fuck that

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        It also takes longer for the scan. I was with a group and figured I'd hold everyone up so positioned myself last, and it was 2 seconds to hand them my ID. The only way this the scan is more convenient is for people who don't care to pull out their ID or are too timid to say "no facial"

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        • cm0002@lemmy.worldC [email protected]

          Original question by @[email protected]

          For those of you who travel in the united states, you'll know they now have facial recognition scans when checking your id. You can opt out by telling them you don't want to take the picture. I do every time, but I wonder what the point of the scan is if you can just opt out. That given, why do you think they do it? What prevents them from forcing you to do it?

          To those of you who live outside of the united states, have you seen a similar increase in security at your airports?

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          Last time I flew was October of '23. No face scanning then, when did this start?

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          • crackhappy@lemmy.worldC [email protected]

            No, it's absolutely pointless to opt out.

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            My take on it is there's more downside doing the facial scan than opting out. The worst case is the scan can miss-identify you and then you get pulled aside for questioning. The worst case for opting out is raising suspicion with an agent? Sure all the security cameras could be doing facial recognition and come up with false positives, but why add another opportunity to be misidentified by doing the scan?

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            • cm0002@lemmy.worldC [email protected]

              Original question by @[email protected]

              For those of you who travel in the united states, you'll know they now have facial recognition scans when checking your id. You can opt out by telling them you don't want to take the picture. I do every time, but I wonder what the point of the scan is if you can just opt out. That given, why do you think they do it? What prevents them from forcing you to do it?

              To those of you who live outside of the united states, have you seen a similar increase in security at your airports?

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              Never encountered one.

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              • S [email protected]

                What was that saying?

                "Trade privacy for convenience and you end up with neither"?

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                I pick and choose my battles. Online? Sure. In a federal building with 700 other cameras that have already more than easily got my mugshot 20x over as soon as I entered, I'm just going to take the Convenience benefit. It's not going to change anything.

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                • pika@sh.itjust.worksP [email protected]

                  I pick and choose my battles. Online? Sure. In a federal building with 700 other cameras that have already more than easily got my mugshot 20x over as soon as I entered, I'm just going to take the Convenience benefit. It's not going to change anything.

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                  Establishes procedure, and there are different rules on what can be done with it (the government doesn't really care, as Snowdon and Manning showed us, but if it can be brought to court and maybe historically it can be shown to be a difference).

                  Also, there's the convenience for those implementing it. If it's more of a faff for them, it's more likely to fail.

                  But convenience is always a powerful compulsion, which is why it's leaned on and used a lot.

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                  • A [email protected]

                    New Delhi airport tracks each passenger as soon as they step in. Permission or not.

                    Thermal, gait analysis.. you name it. Every movement is tracked until you fly out.

                    Opting for the facial scan simply speeds up few processes, and was mandatory only during covid mask times.

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                    Being tracked within the airport until you fly out is pretty normal. But then your data gets deleted.

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                    • crackhappy@lemmy.worldC [email protected]

                      I applaud your idealism.

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                      So you don't lock the door?

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