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“Awful”: Roku tests autoplaying ads loading before the home screen

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  • candyman337@sh.itjust.worksC [email protected]

    Reasons I turn off WiFi on any TV I buy and use a streaming box

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    Roku will do this on their boxes too.

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    • ulrich@feddit.orgU [email protected]

      They just put out a huge update

      I obviously meant a hardware update.

      What are my other options?

      Anything that runs on Android TV?

      Everything else is ad ridden

      And the Shield doesn't have ads? You can bypass all the ads by installing productivity launcher, same as on the Shield.

      underpowered

      How much power do you think you need to stream videos?

      and lacking licenses to play media.

      I don't even know what that means.

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      As someone who owns both Nvidia Shield TV and standard cheap (Google certified) devices, all running Projectivy, it's not really comparable.

      The Shield runs smoother, has significantly less minor/annoying issues, and actually receives fairly regular updates.

      Now, the new Chromecast with Google TV does get updates, but it doesn't resolve the first two differences.

      If you can't afford, or justify the extra expense, for an Nvidia Shield TV, completely understandable. But don't pretend that the user experience is the same, because it's not.

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        That's not Nvidia, that's Google.

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        Yes, Google is an inextricably linked to all Google TV issues, but they didn't force Nvidia to ruin the Shield TV'S launcher with ads, and other bloat.

        At least, not as far as I know. If you have sources saying otherwise, I'd be happy to take a look.

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          As someone who owns both Nvidia Shield TV and standard cheap (Google certified) devices, all running Projectivy, it's not really comparable.

          The Shield runs smoother, has significantly less minor/annoying issues, and actually receives fairly regular updates.

          Now, the new Chromecast with Google TV does get updates, but it doesn't resolve the first two differences.

          If you can't afford, or justify the extra expense, for an Nvidia Shield TV, completely understandable. But don't pretend that the user experience is the same, because it's not.

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          All "standard cheap" devices are not the same. I recommended a specific one, which was tested and featured on LTT.

          I also own both and there's no discernable difference, other than one costs literally 10x more.

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            Bought a Roku back in 2020 or 2021 because the Apple TV was more expensive.

            Now I know why.

            For what it is worth, I have Roku set up as a REGEX in my Pi-hole so for the most part, any of this nonsense is completely blocked on my Roku.

            Needless to say, I shouldn’t have to do this shit with a device I paid for and mainly use for Plex streaming.

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              Yes, Google is an inextricably linked to all Google TV issues, but they didn't force Nvidia to ruin the Shield TV'S launcher with ads, and other bloat.

              At least, not as far as I know. If you have sources saying otherwise, I'd be happy to take a look.

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              but they didn't force Nvidia to ruin the Shield TV'S launcher with ads, and other bloat.

              The "Shield's launcher" is just Android TV... Nvidia did not write their own Android launcher just for this device.

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              • captainautism@lemmy.dbzer0.comC [email protected]

                I'm looking to upgrade the living room TV soon, and this is what I plan to do.

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                I have heard though that some TVs insist on an Internet connection, so do your research and/or be sure there is a good return policy.

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                • ulrich@feddit.orgU [email protected]

                  All "standard cheap" devices are not the same. I recommended a specific one, which was tested and featured on LTT.

                  I also own both and there's no discernable difference, other than one costs literally 10x more.

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                  I said Playstore Certified, and yes, they are mostly the same when you look under the hood, at least for those classes of devices, per generation.

                  Same, or similar SoC, with 2/8 (sometimes 2/16) specs.

                  Once you get up to the 4/32 range, you're already looking around the same price (+/-) of a Shield TV.

                  Also, lol @ citing LTT, for anything. Just because a broken clock is right twice a day, doesn't change the fact that it's broken.

                  And for the sake of being fair, I didn't even mention the 1/8 boards.

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                    If this happens on my box I'll be taking them to small claims court and let you all know how it goes...

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                    Just a heads up that you probably "agreed" to binding arbitration...

                    https://techcrunch.com/2024/03/05/roku-disables-tvs-and-streaming-devices-until-users-consent-to-forced-arbitration/

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                      Roku will do this on their boxes too.

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                      Roku devices and fire sticks belong in the recycle bin.

                      I switched everything to Apple TV .

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                      • ulrich@feddit.orgU [email protected]

                        but they didn't force Nvidia to ruin the Shield TV'S launcher with ads, and other bloat.

                        The "Shield's launcher" is just Android TV... Nvidia did not write their own Android launcher just for this device.

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                        Fuck me. You might be right, as I haven't actually used the stock launcher since the big ad update years back.

                        I just remembered my original launcher having a lot of a Nvidia specific integrations, but I guess those could have just been bolted on at the system level.

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                          How do you do that?

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                          Install ad block if you have a GL.iNet router or pihole

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                            I said Playstore Certified, and yes, they are mostly the same when you look under the hood, at least for those classes of devices, per generation.

                            Same, or similar SoC, with 2/8 (sometimes 2/16) specs.

                            Once you get up to the 4/32 range, you're already looking around the same price (+/-) of a Shield TV.

                            Also, lol @ citing LTT, for anything. Just because a broken clock is right twice a day, doesn't change the fact that it's broken.

                            And for the sake of being fair, I didn't even mention the 1/8 boards.

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                            Okay, clearly you have no interest in learning anything new. Have a nice day.

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                              Roku will do this on their boxes too.

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                              Yeah I don't get roku boxes lol. I have an nvidia shield pro, and I'm considering loading the lineageOS software on it

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                                Roku devices and fire sticks belong in the recycle bin.

                                I switched everything to Apple TV .

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                                I'm not into the apple walled garden, I use android boxes

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                                  I think this happened to me last night with an ad for Moana 2 playing automatically. I just assumed I accidentally hit a button. I was on the home screen but it enlarged and played in the basically the top quarter of the screen. I hit Close and it closed.

                                  Also, the Netflix app is absolute garbage on the TCL Roku TVs. Constantly freezes and crashes, sometimes while not even try to rewind or pause/resume. It just decides its had enough and causes the TV to restart lol.

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                                  I thought the Netflix issue was just me! I also got the Moana 2 ad yesterday and assumed that I’d hit something, too. Good to know it wasn’t me, bad to know it was intentional on Roku’s part.

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                                    A Sharp Aquos TV from the late 2000s, pre-Hisense days. We have a 42" model from ~2007. It's only 1080p (which is honestly just fine for its size and our usage), but there's plenty of I/O for modern and legacy equipment, and lots of configuration options. It is an absolute monster at 75 lbs, but an incredibly high quality unit nonetheless, especially considering it's age. I've owned it since 2019 and it's needed zero repairs or anything.

                                    For comparison, we also have a much newer 55" curved Samsung TV (in our basement, wall-mounted up high) which has already needed a backlight driver board replacement. Luckily that was only $50, but still, I expect better.

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                                    the largest problem with older TV's isnt the resolution. even on my 75" its hard to tell the difference between 4k and 1080p...
                                    But HDR is amazing, it really blows me away each time a scene lights up!

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                                      Yeah I don't get roku boxes lol. I have an nvidia shield pro, and I'm considering loading the lineageOS software on it

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                                      I got the shield too, it's amazing. Upgraded from an old Chromecast and it's night and day, didn't realize how slow the Chromecast was, even on Ethernet.

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                                        Bought a Roku back in 2020 or 2021 because the Apple TV was more expensive.

                                        Now I know why.

                                        For what it is worth, I have Roku set up as a REGEX in my Pi-hole so for the most part, any of this nonsense is completely blocked on my Roku.

                                        Needless to say, I shouldn’t have to do this shit with a device I paid for and mainly use for Plex streaming.

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                                        I know it's being lazy. But if you have the regex you could post, I'd appreciate it.

                                        I had this happen to me just a few days ago. Within the hour I bought an Nvidia shield and came up with a plan to install the projectivy launcher and button remapper.

                                        I'm mostly happy, it's much more snappy but it's missing a couple apps I used on the Roku (WGN and Marquee Sports). At least I can use my own pictures for the background and screensavers.

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                                        • ulrich@feddit.orgU [email protected]

                                          Okay, clearly you have no interest in learning anything new. Have a nice day.

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                                          I'm confused. Are you saying YOU can't tell the difference, or that their is no technical difference?

                                          Because, anecdotally, I've owned a variety of these devices, and I can absolutely tell the difference. Which sucks, because I bought cheaper devices hoping for reasonable parity of experience. I'm not saying my cheaper devices are bad, just that clearly the Shield TV performs better.

                                          As to the actual specs, there is also clearly a real world difference between the bog standard Amlogic SoC (1/8, 2/8, 2/16), and the Tegra SoC.

                                          It's entirely reasonable to argue that the difference isn't worth the extra cost, fine. But it's dishonest to say there is no appreciable difference.

                                          TBF I haven't used the newer "low cost" Shield with the 2/16 Tegra SoC, so I can't really speak to how it performs relative to something like Chromecast with Google TV.

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