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“Awful”: Roku tests autoplaying ads loading before the home screen

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  • ? Guest

    mostly seems like you've tested stuff and got your shit together.

    but the 720p limit is surprising to me. any idea why this happens?

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    DRM. They don't like how open Linux can be so to combat people using it for pirating their content the companies restrict it.

    For instance, Netflix is capped at 720p on Linux unless you are on Opera, apparently.

    https://help.netflix.com/en/node/30081

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    • candyman337@sh.itjust.worksC [email protected]

      You can boot lineage os's android TV version easily on the onn one

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      To my knowledge that only works for the 2021 version which is no longer sold. The newer 2024 version is locked down further and cannot have its bootloader unlocked.

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        DRM. They don't like how open Linux can be so to combat people using it for pirating their content the companies restrict it.

        For instance, Netflix is capped at 720p on Linux unless you are on Opera, apparently.

        https://help.netflix.com/en/node/30081

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        oh, you're not sailing the high seas. got it.

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          To my knowledge that only works for the 2021 version which is no longer sold. The newer 2024 version is locked down further and cannot have its bootloader unlocked.

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          Oh, I'm not sure, maybe

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          • ? Guest

            I just got an HDHomeRun that I use with an antenna and love it. I use Mac and they are one of the only boxes that works on Mac.

            They don’t have a native Linux client, but you can use VLC supposedly: https://info.hdhomerun.com/info/linux

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            You can connect your HDHomeRun with Plex too. It’s really a nice setup. Plex can work like a DVR to record live channels and even has some capability to remove commercials. I’ve started letting NFL games be DVR’d and commercials stripped before watching the game. It’s a much better experience if you can tolerate the delay.

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              But the eyelid things look like they're really uncomfortable. Any chance you can just hack into our brains and stream advertising consistently while I'm in a coma?

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              The Matrix ad campaign

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              • ? Guest

                I have been using an onn 4k streaming box, which runs Google TV. They're $20. It's pretty easy to disable the default launcher and have it boot to Flauncher. Then you can side load smart tube for an ad free YouTube experience asking with Plex, stremio, or whatever else you want to stream.

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                Same. I think it’s also possible to flash them with LineageOS, but swapping out the launcher and using adb to remove anything superfluous is all I’ve done so far.

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                  I have a 200+TB library for my Plex and jellyfin instances. The Roku was just a family friendly launcher and remote. I bought them when you could still disable ads in the secret menus and most of the Roku BS is blocked by a pair of piholes, but I've gotten annoyed chasing new urls to blacklist.

                  It's DRM for the other app bullshit that becomes a hindrance for going the Kodi route. There really isn't a good alternative that I've found. Linux boxes will limit some services to 720p and jt's mostly baseball and local news programs that I'll lose.

                  For the news, I need to look at something like hdhomerun or something else I can pair with an OTA antenna.

                  For baseball, not much other than the absolute mess that live streaming sports is. Doable, sure. But a pita and sketchy last I looked into it. My season ticket comes with MLB.tv, but the irony is that I'm "in network" so all my teams games are blacked out for me. I had previously created a VPN tunnel and routed one of my Rokus to a different state to watch it. But it's not a user friendly experience.

                  For games, I already have a batocera box running on an old dell thin client with way more power than a pi, and it has Kodi on it. But the UI/UX still sucks.

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                  I use an Nividia shield that I've had for about 5 years. Have an alternate ad free launcher enabled. Still works really well. I use it mostly with Kodi streaming from SMB, some Jellyfin though I have Jellyfin hosted on a Pi4 so video quality is somewhat lacking. The 4k upscaling still works very well and is somewhat unique among streaming boxes

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                    Watching Roku steadily decline from a trusted brand has been something. For a time, they were the alternative to the other bigger more Ad driven companies. I’ve owned 2 and used to enjoy them overall. Now, they’ve slowly become just as bad or worse than their competitors in some regards.
                    When history looks back on streaming boxes as a failed delivery method, Roku might just get to be the example in the forefront.

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                    Was roku recently acquired by an investment firm?

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                      FWIW Roku doesn't make the apps. That's on Max. The Paramount app is trash too, resume doesn't work.

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                      Yeah I just thought the two-click bug on the Max app might be specific to Roku, the way some browser glitches only happen on one OS. Having to click twice is such an obvious bug, it's like did anybody even tested this?

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                        This kind of garbage is why I've never connected my tcl tv with bulit in roku to the internet.

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                          Apple TV for the win

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                          I don’t want any device for my TV that makes it hard to install free apps like Jellyfin without logging into an account. I tried fake accounts with Apple devices in the past and ended up with a couple devices that were basically bricked when the fake email account I used got disabled due to lack of activity.

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                            • Disconnect from network
                            • Factory reset
                            • Use HDMI to plug into a device that actually respects your privacy and does what you want (Jellyfin, Plex, Pihole for even more goodness, and simply run other streaming services via privacy enchances browser)
                            • Enjoy life without enshittified asshole OS no one asked for by going back to a time that was better.
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                              Anyone successfully installed LineageOS on Nvidia Shield or Onn devices? I ran the Konstakang AndroidTV build of Lineage on a Raspberry Pi 4 a couple years ago, and it was nice in how uncluttered and non-spywarey it was, but I ended up buying a Shield because hardware decoding never worked well and the frame rate drops were unbearable.

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                                personally I prefer android streaming boxes, because you can install custom versions of android tv on them, so if the official release from google is bad, you can just go to the community version

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                                That general principle makes me confident that opensource community-driven software will eventually replace corporateware. As long as people get equivalent features they'll eventually gravitate toward the alternative that has no opportunistic agenda.

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                                  Yeah I just thought the two-click bug on the Max app might be specific to Roku, the way some browser glitches only happen on one OS. Having to click twice is such an obvious bug, it's like did anybody even tested this?

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                                  yeah it might be specific to the app they built for Roku.

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                                    Anyone successfully installed LineageOS on Nvidia Shield or Onn devices? I ran the Konstakang AndroidTV build of Lineage on a Raspberry Pi 4 a couple years ago, and it was nice in how uncluttered and non-spywarey it was, but I ended up buying a Shield because hardware decoding never worked well and the frame rate drops were unbearable.

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                                    I was just looking into this and saw this comment. I'm just using Xubuntu on an old laptop at the moment but this sort of thing is what I really want to go for so I might test it out when I get more time.

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                                      Libreelec on raspberry pi 4 (Kodi) works for me but it really needs a new YouTube app. That's the only issue really

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                                        Is there any point in getting anything above the bottom tier Shield? Just trying to use it to replace my chromecast/stream tv and youtube

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                                        I haven’t really compared the specs of between them recently, but I have the Pro, and the main decider for me at the time was that it was $50 more and has Ethernet. That being said, I added a USB Ethernet adapter to an Onn device and it works, though the first one I tried didn’t work. It was worth the $50 at the time not to deal with that for the Shield.

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                                          Can you give me some examples for what’s really all that noticeable?

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                                          With steam for me it took longer to connect, it was harder to set up and the stream itself had noticeable artifacts and lag.

                                          With sunshine & moonlight my lag is 1 ms, it connects instantly and I can stream in 4K HDR. Like I said it's so high quality that I often forget I'm streaming the game.

                                          Plus moonlight is free and open source. Takes maybe 5-10 mins to set up. I was skeptical because it's FOSS, but it's easily the streaming solution I've tried for gaming.

                                          This is on Windows over LAN, I haven't tried it over the internet.

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