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  • A [email protected]

    Making the experience worse for everyone because you have a personal ideological disagreement with another instance is hardly what I'd consider a justified moral crusade, but it's easy enough to block reposts when they're coming from a single user, so you do you.

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    I'm curious how you can justify speaking for everyone? How is everyone's experience worse? I'm sure the users of lemmy.cafe or any other instance that defederates or otherwise blocks .ml don't notice a degradation.

    I've even had people thank me for doing what I do because it's actually an improvement for them so ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

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      Nah, fuck this. This isolationist mentality from larpers is what lead us to this fucking mess. This is fucking terrible, and people shouldn't be living in this shit, and 99% of those who tried know it.

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      😂 poor little guy. What would you even do without DoorDash?!

      There's no way you could hack it, so there's absolutely no way many, (MANY) other people could!

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        I legit almost had that dream. Used to live on the KY/TN border. Had 50 acres, half mile off the road and no neighbors. Right as I determined I was moving the local power company started their own fiber ISP. Brought fiber right up to the house.

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        • cm0002@lemmy.worldC [email protected]

          I'm curious how you can justify speaking for everyone? How is everyone's experience worse? I'm sure the users of lemmy.cafe or any other instance that defederates or otherwise blocks .ml don't notice a degradation.

          I've even had people thank me for doing what I do because it's actually an improvement for them so ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

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          Reposting these memes shows up on everyone's feed regardless of if they're subscribed or federated with .ml - i'm not speaking for 'everyone', only pointing out who your script is impacting, which is everyone in that subset.

          Not everyone has gotten banned on .ml.

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          • A [email protected]

            Reposting these memes shows up on everyone's feed regardless of if they're subscribed or federated with .ml - i'm not speaking for 'everyone', only pointing out who your script is impacting, which is everyone in that subset.

            Not everyone has gotten banned on .ml.

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            Just a small point of clarification, there's no script, every crosspost is done manually. It would actually be rather impractical to script it, since I wouldn't want to accidentally crosspost some Tankie crap, like an RT article or a pro-NK meme or something lmao

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            • jerb322@lemmy.worldJ [email protected]

              Running water would be nice

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              Find a stream, dig a well, set up a rain collection system, have a cistern / pump / filter.

              Yep, its difficult, but not impossible.

              People have been doing that for tens of thousands of years... though I will grant you this is increasingly, unrealistically difficult for an average person to pull off these days, even if you basically learn how to properly do all of it yourself, lots more legal restrictions, and construction/materials are costly.

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                😂 poor little guy. What would you even do without DoorDash?!

                There's no way you could hack it, so there's absolutely no way many, (MANY) other people could!

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                Oh, a bunch of people really believe they can and should live in isolation from society. Some of them really are. Most of them have or about to have a mental illness that is exacerbated by fearmongering from all the weird groups, and isolation transitions them from kinda weird guys that need a bit of help, to full on psychos. Just look what a little bit of covid isolation did to so many people, and they had zoom.
                Of course I couldn't "hack it" in social isolation, but neither do you, and your doordash comment only shows that you actually have very little idea what you're talking about.

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                  Damn. God forbid people romanticize having some peace and quiet.

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                  Isolated hut in the woods is about the farthest thing from peaceful and quiet you can get.

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                    Counterpoint: I tried and I want to leave this broken society even more now (especially since societal enshitification seems to even accelerate).

                    Though you still need social contacts (that you really like) to avoid loneliness, so in case you have that, it's a wonderful, peaceful and healthy way to live more in harmony with nature, but it's a lot of work nonetheless.

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                    Take it from someone who actually experienced living in a remote isolated place. It's as far as peaceful, healthy, and quiet lives you can imagine. You're not a druid from a larp, and you're not an animal born in a ditch, you will not be in "harmony" with nature, whatever the fuck you mean by it, you will be in a constant opposition to it, in a fight for your life, and "the nature" will consume you in the end. I know you're not one of those people who actually thrives in that environment, I know it because we're talking on the internet, and weird forest isolationists don't talk to other people on the internet.
                    All that remote hut bullshit is a sham perpetuated by antisocial weirdos and scammers that sell buckets of prep food you can shit in.

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                      Dpending on your definition of 'fast', you can pull this off with those newfangled 5G base station/routers.

                      Just gotta find a place near enough to a city, not too far into the boonies.

                      Cheaper than Starlink.

                      Fast enough to game to game on, unless there's some kind of serious servicd outage or massive weather storm of some kind.

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                      As someone who lives out in those boonies in the middle of a forest, (groceries are a mere 100 mile round trip. I did that yesterday), the internet has had a funny journey here. We pretty much went from dialup to fiber, sometimes it's good to be last. We've had fiber now for 6 or 7 years. While it's only 2.4G, still fast enough for most people. But weather can make internet and electricity somewhat spotty as winds can blow trees over and the lights go out.

                      But we still very much behind on cell service. Due to the trees and and hills, towers can be far and few between. Many places have poor to no service. I can sometimes get a text message out in my yard, but making a phone call isn't happening. And most places I forage or hunt in have no service at all. If I have a heart attack, ain't no one dialing 911 for me unless they use the land line in the house. Weirdly enough there is one spot one the lake I live on that I can get 5G. It seems to be about a 200 yard circle.

                      What all of these swaive, 'fisticated, and urbane Ubanites will miss is the "quality of life" they are used to. "Fun things" like movies, concerts, plays, shopping, fine dining, are either miles and miles away or non-existent. Best we can do for you is Brodini being in town for a one Saturday afternoon comedy magic show in the summer. And for shopping, you can always use Amazon and wait a week or two for the shipping.

                      But I get to sit here this morning, breathing in the smoke from the Canadian forest fires, (we are not quite in the promised orange yet today), and drink my tea over looking a quiet lake and listen to the loon out in front of my house. I think it takes a special mind set to live like this. And most people don't have it because they don't know anything different.

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                        Why would it need fast internet? Fairly slow internet would be fine, stick a 4G antenna on the roof and I would be fine with that.

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                          Dpending on your definition of 'fast', you can pull this off with those newfangled 5G base station/routers.

                          Just gotta find a place near enough to a city, not too far into the boonies.

                          Cheaper than Starlink.

                          Fast enough to game to game on, unless there's some kind of serious servicd outage or massive weather storm of some kind.

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                          I am using 4G today for internet and its totally fine.

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                            You gotta pick a fuckton of berries and hunt a lot of squirrels unless you have both the acres and knowledge to actually farm and homestead.

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                            Fishing if you are near the sea is an option too. Stick a few pots out in the morning, go check them in the afternoon for your dinner. Even with string I have managed to catch some big spider crabs in just a few minutes. A pot should get you loads. Seaweed for some veg on the side.

                            If the waters here were not so polluted I could be eating crab/lobster every day!

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                              Been living like this for over a decade in south east asia and its incredible. Got all of my tech gadgets, 1gbps, jungle, beach, rescue dogs and occasional road trip to the city. If you can earn 3k usd/mo remotely you can have all of this too!

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                                As someone who lives out in those boonies in the middle of a forest, (groceries are a mere 100 mile round trip. I did that yesterday), the internet has had a funny journey here. We pretty much went from dialup to fiber, sometimes it's good to be last. We've had fiber now for 6 or 7 years. While it's only 2.4G, still fast enough for most people. But weather can make internet and electricity somewhat spotty as winds can blow trees over and the lights go out.

                                But we still very much behind on cell service. Due to the trees and and hills, towers can be far and few between. Many places have poor to no service. I can sometimes get a text message out in my yard, but making a phone call isn't happening. And most places I forage or hunt in have no service at all. If I have a heart attack, ain't no one dialing 911 for me unless they use the land line in the house. Weirdly enough there is one spot one the lake I live on that I can get 5G. It seems to be about a 200 yard circle.

                                What all of these swaive, 'fisticated, and urbane Ubanites will miss is the "quality of life" they are used to. "Fun things" like movies, concerts, plays, shopping, fine dining, are either miles and miles away or non-existent. Best we can do for you is Brodini being in town for a one Saturday afternoon comedy magic show in the summer. And for shopping, you can always use Amazon and wait a week or two for the shipping.

                                But I get to sit here this morning, breathing in the smoke from the Canadian forest fires, (we are not quite in the promised orange yet today), and drink my tea over looking a quiet lake and listen to the loon out in front of my house. I think it takes a special mind set to live like this. And most people don't have it because they don't know anything different.

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                                Thoreau comes to mind.

                                Yep.. its a different way of life.

                                Slower, more intentional, less frills, less impulsive, different kinds of worries, different kinds of joys.

                                I myself am this... really weird sort of person that more or less grew up quite close to that, but alsi loved tech from a young age, went to uni, went to work as a corpo...

                                And I saw that all this 'high falutin' fast life was fun, very engaging, very rewarding in novel ways... but also, just... not ultimately sustainable, not the way we do it in most of the US... too much debt, too much consumerism, too much greed.

                                "Too many men, too many people, causing too many problems... not much love to go around."

                                So, now that ... well basically the economy is totally collapsing... well I at least am adaptable, and know how to live lean, do the long term planning I can afford to.

                                I forget which Bond movie it was, but Desmond Llewelyn's last line as Q:

                                Always have an escape plan.

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                                  Take it from someone who actually experienced living in a remote isolated place. It's as far as peaceful, healthy, and quiet lives you can imagine. You're not a druid from a larp, and you're not an animal born in a ditch, you will not be in "harmony" with nature, whatever the fuck you mean by it, you will be in a constant opposition to it, in a fight for your life, and "the nature" will consume you in the end. I know you're not one of those people who actually thrives in that environment, I know it because we're talking on the internet, and weird forest isolationists don't talk to other people on the internet.
                                  All that remote hut bullshit is a sham perpetuated by antisocial weirdos and scammers that sell buckets of prep food you can shit in.

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                                  Ok, right the details are a lot of work to "survive". In case you're really completely isolated from society. I agree with that. Definition of harmony is what I probably missed (I did not necessarily mean the romantic understanding of it), you're a lot more dependent on it. I did though in fact live somewhat remote for some time (as volunteer) and did indeed thrive there, I like hard rather primitive work in nature. The exact circumstances are also important (i.e. does it rain a lot, is climate mild, is winter hard (heating etc.)). But... you actually do stuff that makes sense, as your survival depends on it. Not like having to fix zillions of bugs in an overabstracted frontend, having to deal with incompetent but arrogant and power hungry bosses and all that artificial stress we have put our lives in. Or having to read the non ending negative influx of idiocracy that Trump produces everyday.

                                  I rather like to keep things more fundamental. And I think if you're up for it (i.e. active/fit, craftly etc.) it can be fullfilling. Obviously it's not as romantic as you probably imagine most of the time. But I rather like to deal with this than having to get angry about society not seeing that our probably most important problem is climate change and not migrants etc. and not caring enough about it.

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                                    I'm not extrapolating, this isn't data, it's fiction lmao

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                                    So in other words you're trolling and don't care about being right or wrong...

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                                      So in other words you're trolling and don't care about being right or wrong...

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                                      You said a thing and I said it reminded me of some other thing. What's to be right or wrong about? That I was reminded of a thing, is your stance that I was not in fact reminded of that thing? I feel like you're going to lose that argument.

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                                        You said a thing and I said it reminded me of some other thing. What's to be right or wrong about? That I was reminded of a thing, is your stance that I was not in fact reminded of that thing? I feel like you're going to lose that argument.

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                                        I'll make it simple, as I don't care about losing "that argument": Don't feed the troll

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                                          I'll make it simple, as I don't care about losing "that argument": Don't feed the troll

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                                          I don't condone starving yourself, have a good day.

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