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  • V [email protected]

    Saw dust or whatever, those things stinks. The best part is having people over and mixing all their crap in an enormous bucket 🤢🤮🪣

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    I have a quite good experience with these, and was surprised how little they smell (but it was an outside toilet with an incredible view)

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      Nah, fuck this. This isolationist mentality from larpers is what lead us to this fucking mess. This is fucking terrible, and people shouldn't be living in this shit, and 99% of those who tried know it.

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      Counterpoint: I tried and I want to leave this broken society even more now (especially since societal enshitification seems to even accelerate).

      Though you still need social contacts (that you really like) to avoid loneliness, so in case you have that, it's a wonderful, peaceful and healthy way to live more in harmony with nature, but it's a lot of work nonetheless.

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        I have a quite good experience with these, and was surprised how little they smell (but it was an outside toilet with an incredible view)

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        Mine were always indoors, from those old ones with place for two, to modern ones with a sort of spanner to mix it all... They stink in various degrees up to like impossible. Outside it might be totally okay I guess (if it's not in the winter or the muskitoes are not on a war path).

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          While I was going to make a point about diseases being transmittable through human meat, it did remind me that CWD, or Zombie Deer Disease is raging across now a third of the US or so, and a huge swath of Canada as well. It's a prion disease, not a virus or bacteria, there is no cure or antidote, cannot be cooked out and can even survive autoclaves, and it's 100% fatal over time, and we have no real good idea how it's spreading or how readily it can be transmitted to humans. (There have already been some infections.)

          If you do ever end up in the woods, do not eat the deer unless you're starving and even then, avoid lymph nodes, brains and organ meat generally. Even still they think it can be spread from blood.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronic_wasting_disease

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          I'd spear hunt the boar I don't like deer.

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          • F [email protected]

            Pass, I like being able to walk to the store and concerts and stuff. Maybe with the hydroponics and aeroponics boom everybody can just live in a city and leave nature alone?

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            In theory cities are more efficient, than living off-grid, I agree.

            In reality though if you're really careful and know what you're doing (and are really disciplined and have educated yourself), you can live a true carbon neutral life.

            All the infrastructure in cities and everything around modern life is just destructive in so many ways unfortunately...

            And unfortunately the mass of people don't care enough, to initiate the necessary systemic changes to make cities truly sustainable...

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              Mine were always indoors, from those old ones with place for two, to modern ones with a sort of spanner to mix it all... They stink in various degrees up to like impossible. Outside it might be totally okay I guess (if it's not in the winter or the muskitoes are not on a war path).

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              Not sure if you have control over it, but the ones I've used didn't even smell when directly smelling over them. Not sure if there was something mixed in there too, to reduce the smell further. The owners used the resulting humus as fertilizer too.

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                Haha TIL!

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                at least in statesia the brand name (i swear i'm not going hailcorporate, just some people could use some and personal experience it works a hell of a lot better than poopourri) is devrom and it tends to run 20 to 40 usd for 200 pills. OTC, of course.

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                  In theory cities are more efficient, than living off-grid, I agree.

                  In reality though if you're really careful and know what you're doing (and are really disciplined and have educated yourself), you can live a true carbon neutral life.

                  All the infrastructure in cities and everything around modern life is just destructive in so many ways unfortunately...

                  And unfortunately the mass of people don't care enough, to initiate the necessary systemic changes to make cities truly sustainable...

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                  Reminds me of that guy from the Good Place who ran a snail rehab.

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                    Reminds me of that guy from the Good Place who ran a snail rehab.

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                    And that is relevant how? I don't say that it's a lifestyle for the average person, definitely not.

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                      Dpending on your definition of 'fast', you can pull this off with those newfangled 5G base station/routers.

                      Just gotta find a place near enough to a city, not too far into the boonies.

                      Cheaper than Starlink.

                      Fast enough to game to game on, unless there's some kind of serious servicd outage or massive weather storm of some kind.

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                        And that is relevant how? I don't say that it's a lifestyle for the average person, definitely not.

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                        Because he lived sustainably alone in the woods off of his own filtered piss and a snail filled garden. In the end he did all of that to get into the good place and still didn't.

                        It was analogous to the unreachable perfect standard of goodness.

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                          Sometimes I get the vague sense that I've already seen a post in my /all view, but I don't think i've ever seen them back to back like this. Not even the title is different

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                            Because he lived sustainably alone in the woods off of his own filtered piss and a snail filled garden. In the end he did all of that to get into the good place and still didn't.

                            It was analogous to the unreachable perfect standard of goodness.

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                            So you're extrapolating from this single case? As I say, if you know what you're doing it's less effort than you think, you let nature do its thing for you and just nudge it in the right direction, so you just harvest the fruits. And yet again, just because that lifestyle isn't for you it can still be for others...

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                              Sometimes I get the vague sense that I've already seen a post in my /all view, but I don't think i've ever seen them back to back like this. Not even the title is different

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                              Cross-posting as part of ongoing boycotting/protest efforts against .ml

                              ::: spoiler Why am I cross-posting .ml content?

                              I cross-post from .ml to the nearest relevant non-.ml comm to reduce the influence of .ml comms and indirectly, the instance as a whole, to make it an easier decision for other instance admins to defederate because one key reason I identified that admins don't want to defederate is because .ml still has some very large comms and some niche comms.

                              Megathread on the issue

                              Some highlights from the link:

                              "Don't worry guys, the Uyghur Genocide was REALLY just birth control! ~dessalines, .ml admin, dev https://lemmy.world/post/30580167

                              "See! nobody died IN Tiananmen Square, just AROUND it, so it doesn't count!!" ~ Davel, .ml admin
                              https://lemmy.world/post/30673342

                              .ml admin, Nutomics continued transphobia https://lemmy.world/post/29222558
                              The original transphobic Comment from Nutomic: https://lemmy.world/post/18236068

                              "NK is actually good and anything counter to that is Western propaganda!" ~dessalines, .ml admin, dev https://lemmy.world/post/31595035

                              General negative sentiment to other instances who haven't "seen the way" yet ~davel, .ml admin https://lemmy.world/post/27426510

                              "If you don't support Russia then you just don't understand geopolitics" ~dessalines, .ml admin, dev https://lemmy.world/post/27352415

                              And so so much documentation on clear heavy handed censorship and bias also on the link. So much I can't even put them all here because this comment would be really long.

                              I believe the behavior of its admins (the main admins are Lemmy devs) does harm to the overall growth of the Lemmy-verse and maybe even the Thrediverse (since Lemmy kinda kicked off the Thrediverse) because of its association with the devs of Lemmy and their insistence to use .ml as their personal political platform to spread harmful propaganda

                              On the outside, bringing up Lemmy frequently leads to comments like "Lemmy? Isn't that the place with a bunch of tankies?" Or "Tried Lemmy, but found it full of pro Russia crap so I left". The best way forward from that I see is to either widely defederate from .ml like the rest of the Triad, or pressure them to put a fair and unbiased as possible admin team.
                              :::

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                                Cross-posting as part of ongoing boycotting/protest efforts against .ml

                                ::: spoiler Why am I cross-posting .ml content?

                                I cross-post from .ml to the nearest relevant non-.ml comm to reduce the influence of .ml comms and indirectly, the instance as a whole, to make it an easier decision for other instance admins to defederate because one key reason I identified that admins don't want to defederate is because .ml still has some very large comms and some niche comms.

                                Megathread on the issue

                                Some highlights from the link:

                                "Don't worry guys, the Uyghur Genocide was REALLY just birth control! ~dessalines, .ml admin, dev https://lemmy.world/post/30580167

                                "See! nobody died IN Tiananmen Square, just AROUND it, so it doesn't count!!" ~ Davel, .ml admin
                                https://lemmy.world/post/30673342

                                .ml admin, Nutomics continued transphobia https://lemmy.world/post/29222558
                                The original transphobic Comment from Nutomic: https://lemmy.world/post/18236068

                                "NK is actually good and anything counter to that is Western propaganda!" ~dessalines, .ml admin, dev https://lemmy.world/post/31595035

                                General negative sentiment to other instances who haven't "seen the way" yet ~davel, .ml admin https://lemmy.world/post/27426510

                                "If you don't support Russia then you just don't understand geopolitics" ~dessalines, .ml admin, dev https://lemmy.world/post/27352415

                                And so so much documentation on clear heavy handed censorship and bias also on the link. So much I can't even put them all here because this comment would be really long.

                                I believe the behavior of its admins (the main admins are Lemmy devs) does harm to the overall growth of the Lemmy-verse and maybe even the Thrediverse (since Lemmy kinda kicked off the Thrediverse) because of its association with the devs of Lemmy and their insistence to use .ml as their personal political platform to spread harmful propaganda

                                On the outside, bringing up Lemmy frequently leads to comments like "Lemmy? Isn't that the place with a bunch of tankies?" Or "Tried Lemmy, but found it full of pro Russia crap so I left". The best way forward from that I see is to either widely defederate from .ml like the rest of the Triad, or pressure them to put a fair and unbiased as possible admin team.
                                :::

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                                Sure, but:

                                • That doesn't excuse not even attempting a first-blush attempt at authoring even just the title yourself

                                and

                                • Constantly reposing duplicates en-mass makes the experience way worse for those of us who don't have a personal vendetta against particular target lemmy instances and who haven't defederated with them out of spite or distaste

                                do what you want but this is basically just petty vandalism

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                                  Dry saw dust does a whole lot of work in these toilets.

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                                    Sure, but:

                                    • That doesn't excuse not even attempting a first-blush attempt at authoring even just the title yourself

                                    and

                                    • Constantly reposing duplicates en-mass makes the experience way worse for those of us who don't have a personal vendetta against particular target lemmy instances and who haven't defederated with them out of spite or distaste

                                    do what you want but this is basically just petty vandalism

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                                    Constantly reposing duplicates en-mass makes the experience way worse for those of us who don't have a personal vendetta against particular target lemmy instances and who haven't defederated with them out of spite or distaste

                                    It's not possible to cater things in a way that's pleasant for everyone at once. Your slightly degraded experience, is another's "godsend" be it because they were forced out of .ml because of the "horrible" crime of supporting ukraine or calling out Russian propaganda or because by choice ala instance defederation or choosing to block them

                                    Hence the reason people say, you need to cater your feed for an optimal experience.

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                                      Constantly reposing duplicates en-mass makes the experience way worse for those of us who don't have a personal vendetta against particular target lemmy instances and who haven't defederated with them out of spite or distaste

                                      It's not possible to cater things in a way that's pleasant for everyone at once. Your slightly degraded experience, is another's "godsend" be it because they were forced out of .ml because of the "horrible" crime of supporting ukraine or calling out Russian propaganda or because by choice ala instance defederation or choosing to block them

                                      Hence the reason people say, you need to cater your feed for an optimal experience.

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                                      Making the experience worse for everyone because you have a personal ideological disagreement with another instance is hardly what I'd consider a justified moral crusade, but it's easy enough to block reposts when they're coming from a single user, so you do you.

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                                        So you're extrapolating from this single case? As I say, if you know what you're doing it's less effort than you think, you let nature do its thing for you and just nudge it in the right direction, so you just harvest the fruits. And yet again, just because that lifestyle isn't for you it can still be for others...

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                                        I'm not extrapolating, this isn't data, it's fiction lmao

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                                          Making the experience worse for everyone because you have a personal ideological disagreement with another instance is hardly what I'd consider a justified moral crusade, but it's easy enough to block reposts when they're coming from a single user, so you do you.

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                                          I'm curious how you can justify speaking for everyone? How is everyone's experience worse? I'm sure the users of lemmy.cafe or any other instance that defederates or otherwise blocks .ml don't notice a degradation.

                                          I've even had people thank me for doing what I do because it's actually an improvement for them so ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

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