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the self checkout machines at Walmart need a reboot. syslinux 6.03

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  • snotflickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zoneS [email protected]

    No EFI environment detected?

    Sounds like someone deleted the EFI partition maybe.

    Or the machine is so old it still has a BIOS.

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    Doesn't every computer have a bios? Genuinely asking

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    • stez827@sh.itjust.worksS [email protected]

      Doesn't every computer have a bios? Genuinely asking

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      I think (not 100% sure) that UEFI is a replacement for BIOS. All modern computers use UEFI.

      People still colloquially call it "BIOS" because it serves a similar purpose, but there is a technical difference.

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      • stez827@sh.itjust.worksS [email protected]

        Doesn't every computer have a bios? Genuinely asking

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        Computer is a pretty broad term. Not all have or need a BIOS, e.g. in embedded systems.

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        • snotflickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zoneS [email protected]

          No EFI environment detected?

          Sounds like someone deleted the EFI partition maybe.

          Or the machine is so old it still has a BIOS.

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          Copyright line only mentions 2014, so I'm guessing it's 10 years old and only BIOS.

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            I think (not 100% sure) that UEFI is a replacement for BIOS. All modern computers use UEFI.

            People still colloquially call it "BIOS" because it serves a similar purpose, but there is a technical difference.

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            You are in fact correct. UEFI (Unified Extensible Firmware Interface) is the modernized version of the very very old BIOS (Basic Input/Output System).

            It brought a parade of improvements including the GPT (GUID [Global Unique Identifier] Parition Table) partition table replacing the old MBR (Master Boot Record) partition table.

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            • N [email protected]

              I think (not 100% sure) that UEFI is a replacement for BIOS. All modern computers use UEFI.

              People still colloquially call it "BIOS" because it serves a similar purpose, but there is a technical difference.

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              That is correct, it's been quite awhile now since UEFI became standard but almost everyone still calls it the BIOS. Although I've noticed the word firmware is starting to be used more as well.

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                Let's be gratefull it does not run win11 okay?
                (Or any windows for that matter)

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                Yeah, I'd hate to think that Wal-Mart may be stealing my personal data.

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                  That is correct, it's been quite awhile now since UEFI became standard but almost everyone still calls it the BIOS. Although I've noticed the word firmware is starting to be used more as well.

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                  which is funny because firmware is a legacy term for what evolved into what is honestly software.

                  You don't need to socket any new chips nowadays.

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                    Copyright line only mentions 2014, so I'm guessing it's 10 years old and only BIOS.

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                    UEFI first became common on new computers in 2011-2012, so I don’t a lot of 2014 computers were BIOS.

                    I have a cheapo laptop from 2012 (one of last Gateways) and it’s a UEFI machine.

                    At this point, I think 15 years ago is a more realistic estimate for the last legacy BIOS machines - my Win7 box with a 1st gen i5 is legacy BIOS.

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                    • stez827@sh.itjust.worksS [email protected]

                      Doesn't every computer have a bios? Genuinely asking

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                      Yes, though I think the exception is (some?) ARM based PCs don't run UEFI, in which ARM in general doesn't have a universal standard for booting which adds complexity to it. Perhaps that's already changed though, I haven't kept up too well in the ARM space.

                      Not sure if maybe the Walmart self checkout terminals aren't x86 machines, perhaps they're ARM or another embedded type of system.

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                        which is funny because firmware is a legacy term for what evolved into what is honestly software.

                        You don't need to socket any new chips nowadays.

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                        I mean, if what we're using is pulled from a chipset on the motherboard whose storage space isn't rewritable from the OS interface, wouldn't that be called firmware? You are using a flash chip to boot after all.

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                          IDK where this is, but I repaired self checkouts in Oklahoma and Texas for years and they all had Windows. The regular registers looked like this when they booted. But going off the way the surrounding hardware is facing the same direction as the screen and what looks like a debit reader barely visible on the left and the printer on the right, it does look like a self checkout, just not one like I've ever seen.

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                            When I used to work at Walmart in 2012, they still used MS-DOS for their signage

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                              Maybe there were dual booting Windows and then a Windows update broke the boot partition

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                                When I used to work at Walmart in 2012, they still used MS-DOS for their signage

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                                If it ain't broke...

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                                  IDK where this is, but I repaired self checkouts in Oklahoma and Texas for years and they all had Windows. The regular registers looked like this when they booted. But going off the way the surrounding hardware is facing the same direction as the screen and what looks like a debit reader barely visible on the left and the printer on the right, it does look like a self checkout, just not one like I've ever seen.

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                                  This is in Ontario

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                                    Looks like a successor to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4690_Operating_System

                                    https://commerce.toshiba.com/wps/portal/marketing/?urile=wcm%3Apath%3A%2Fen-us%2Fhome%2Fsoftware%2Foperating-systems%2Ftcx-sky

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                                      When I used to work at Walmart in 2012, they still used MS-DOS for their signage

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                                      the machine used to manage schedules at the job i had this summer used windows XP

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                                        Looks like a successor to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4690_Operating_System

                                        https://commerce.toshiba.com/wps/portal/marketing/?urile=wcm%3Apath%3A%2Fen-us%2Fhome%2Fsoftware%2Foperating-systems%2Ftcx-sky

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                                        Open-source Mbrowser 52.2, packed with security features

                                        Does anyone know where to find this?

                                        EDIT: All I can find are the user agent strings which indicate that this might be some IBM product. Also, there's rv:52.0 in the environment part, but IBM Mbrowser/60.5.1 in the engines part - so the actual version of the browser component might be 60.5.1 in this case, not 52.x. (There's also a rv:60.0 with Mbrowser/60.9.0 - no IBM this time.)

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