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    cross-posted from: https://rss.ponder.cat/post/143881

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      cross-posted from: https://rss.ponder.cat/post/143881

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      Better than Nazi Junta in charge.

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        Better than Nazi Junta in charge.

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        Russian troll alert

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          cross-posted from: https://rss.ponder.cat/post/143881

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          Putin can go and fuck himself.

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            Better than Nazi Junta in charge.

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            Why don't you relax and go get some tea from kitchen samovar.

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              Russian troll alert

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              Very sorry I don’t like a regime that was brought into charge by a bunch of far right Neo-Nazis.

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                cross-posted from: https://rss.ponder.cat/post/143881

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                So basically US and Russia-led.
                As long as the security council grants veto powers, the UN is a fucking joke.

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                  Very sorry I don’t like a regime that was brought into charge by a bunch of far right Neo-Nazis.

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                  There is no reason for this war I have heard from Russia, that I did not read from the Nazis directed to the Czechoslovakians.

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                    There is no reason for this war I have heard from Russia, that I did not read from the Nazis directed to the Czechoslovakians.

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                    Let me use my own statement to give you a little reasoning.

                    regime that was brought into power by a bunch of far right Neo-Nazis

                    The pro-Maidan movement conducted a false flag operation where pro-maidan snipers shot their own protestors in order to incite public backlash against Yanukovych.

                    With this, they proceeded to overthrow Yanukovych’s government and then proceeded to attack anti-Maidan movement in the Donbas.

                    Proof of false flag:

                    Video appendix A

                    100 witness testimonies

                    Testimonies from 52 wounded victims

                    Over 80 witness testimonies showing that the fire came from Maidan-controlled buildings

                    Video footage showing that it was indeed Maidan supporters who committed the massacre

                    A mere portion of the evidence.

                    There are several hundred witness testimonies including wounded protestors, 2,000 videos, 6,000 photos, and 30 gigabytes of radio intercepts that proves it was a false flag operation.

                    conducted massacres immediately after being put into power.

                    Russia proceeded to conduct an air assault on Crimea as according to them, they made an agreement with the legitimate government of Ukraine before Maidan to continue their lease over Sevastapol.

                    Russia stated that the formation of this illegitimate government threatened military infrastructure in Crimea which they rightfully owned due to an agreement with the previous government.

                    Russia also named the crackdowns that were being conducted in Eastern Ukraine as a reason they needed to safeguard the lives of people in Crimea.

                    Safeguarding lives seems to similar to Hitler’s reasoning for Czechoslovakia no?
                    But unlike Hitler, I can actually prove that there was a threat to the local population.

                    Here is the Mariupol Victory Day Massacre:

                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Y7uaqUMEB4

                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvAGbTz6Ju4

                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjAMweb2Q6Y

                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2zpvhg0Yq4

                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSVV2Var_H0

                    Krasnoarmiysk incident where Ukrainian army open fire at the sky and into the crowd:

                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-Wv9h5P3OY

                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXt1sebGoLM

                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AC61NxLKzs

                    So there massacres going on.

                    What happened in Czechoslovakia?

                    Well there was violence against the Czechoslovaks and the ethnic Germans, problem is that it was because of militias trained and equipped by the German army that conducted cross-border terrorist operations.

                    People try to claim that something similar happened in the Ukraine conflict and to prove this, they like to quote GRU war criminal Girkin who stated that the War in the Donbas would not have happened without him but they forget the rest of the quote. Girkin was stating that the separatists would have been crushed without the intelligence and weapons he provided them naming Mariupol as an example where the anti-Maidan movement got crushed (as the mostly unarmed civilians had no support and got gunned down by the AFU). He never said that he was the one who caused the unrest, only that it would have gotten crushed without his weapons and intelligence.

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                      Let me use my own statement to give you a little reasoning.

                      regime that was brought into power by a bunch of far right Neo-Nazis

                      The pro-Maidan movement conducted a false flag operation where pro-maidan snipers shot their own protestors in order to incite public backlash against Yanukovych.

                      With this, they proceeded to overthrow Yanukovych’s government and then proceeded to attack anti-Maidan movement in the Donbas.

                      Proof of false flag:

                      Video appendix A

                      100 witness testimonies

                      Testimonies from 52 wounded victims

                      Over 80 witness testimonies showing that the fire came from Maidan-controlled buildings

                      Video footage showing that it was indeed Maidan supporters who committed the massacre

                      A mere portion of the evidence.

                      There are several hundred witness testimonies including wounded protestors, 2,000 videos, 6,000 photos, and 30 gigabytes of radio intercepts that proves it was a false flag operation.

                      conducted massacres immediately after being put into power.

                      Russia proceeded to conduct an air assault on Crimea as according to them, they made an agreement with the legitimate government of Ukraine before Maidan to continue their lease over Sevastapol.

                      Russia stated that the formation of this illegitimate government threatened military infrastructure in Crimea which they rightfully owned due to an agreement with the previous government.

                      Russia also named the crackdowns that were being conducted in Eastern Ukraine as a reason they needed to safeguard the lives of people in Crimea.

                      Safeguarding lives seems to similar to Hitler’s reasoning for Czechoslovakia no?
                      But unlike Hitler, I can actually prove that there was a threat to the local population.

                      Here is the Mariupol Victory Day Massacre:

                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Y7uaqUMEB4

                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvAGbTz6Ju4

                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjAMweb2Q6Y

                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2zpvhg0Yq4

                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSVV2Var_H0

                      Krasnoarmiysk incident where Ukrainian army open fire at the sky and into the crowd:

                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-Wv9h5P3OY

                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXt1sebGoLM

                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AC61NxLKzs

                      So there massacres going on.

                      What happened in Czechoslovakia?

                      Well there was violence against the Czechoslovaks and the ethnic Germans, problem is that it was because of militias trained and equipped by the German army that conducted cross-border terrorist operations.

                      People try to claim that something similar happened in the Ukraine conflict and to prove this, they like to quote GRU war criminal Girkin who stated that the War in the Donbas would not have happened without him but they forget the rest of the quote. Girkin was stating that the separatists would have been crushed without the intelligence and weapons he provided them naming Mariupol as an example where the anti-Maidan movement got crushed (as the mostly unarmed civilians had no support and got gunned down by the AFU). He never said that he was the one who caused the unrest, only that it would have gotten crushed without his weapons and intelligence.

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                      Ah right, "proof" from ivan.
                      https://www.thebulwark.com/p/false-flag-fantasies-in-ukraine

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                        Let me use my own statement to give you a little reasoning.

                        regime that was brought into power by a bunch of far right Neo-Nazis

                        The pro-Maidan movement conducted a false flag operation where pro-maidan snipers shot their own protestors in order to incite public backlash against Yanukovych.

                        With this, they proceeded to overthrow Yanukovych’s government and then proceeded to attack anti-Maidan movement in the Donbas.

                        Proof of false flag:

                        Video appendix A

                        100 witness testimonies

                        Testimonies from 52 wounded victims

                        Over 80 witness testimonies showing that the fire came from Maidan-controlled buildings

                        Video footage showing that it was indeed Maidan supporters who committed the massacre

                        A mere portion of the evidence.

                        There are several hundred witness testimonies including wounded protestors, 2,000 videos, 6,000 photos, and 30 gigabytes of radio intercepts that proves it was a false flag operation.

                        conducted massacres immediately after being put into power.

                        Russia proceeded to conduct an air assault on Crimea as according to them, they made an agreement with the legitimate government of Ukraine before Maidan to continue their lease over Sevastapol.

                        Russia stated that the formation of this illegitimate government threatened military infrastructure in Crimea which they rightfully owned due to an agreement with the previous government.

                        Russia also named the crackdowns that were being conducted in Eastern Ukraine as a reason they needed to safeguard the lives of people in Crimea.

                        Safeguarding lives seems to similar to Hitler’s reasoning for Czechoslovakia no?
                        But unlike Hitler, I can actually prove that there was a threat to the local population.

                        Here is the Mariupol Victory Day Massacre:

                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Y7uaqUMEB4

                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvAGbTz6Ju4

                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjAMweb2Q6Y

                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2zpvhg0Yq4

                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSVV2Var_H0

                        Krasnoarmiysk incident where Ukrainian army open fire at the sky and into the crowd:

                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-Wv9h5P3OY

                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXt1sebGoLM

                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AC61NxLKzs

                        So there massacres going on.

                        What happened in Czechoslovakia?

                        Well there was violence against the Czechoslovaks and the ethnic Germans, problem is that it was because of militias trained and equipped by the German army that conducted cross-border terrorist operations.

                        People try to claim that something similar happened in the Ukraine conflict and to prove this, they like to quote GRU war criminal Girkin who stated that the War in the Donbas would not have happened without him but they forget the rest of the quote. Girkin was stating that the separatists would have been crushed without the intelligence and weapons he provided them naming Mariupol as an example where the anti-Maidan movement got crushed (as the mostly unarmed civilians had no support and got gunned down by the AFU). He never said that he was the one who caused the unrest, only that it would have gotten crushed without his weapons and intelligence.

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                        So what I'm hearing is that the allies installed an illegitimate government in Czechoslovia, and the Germans need to move in to create proper order. Again, I've heard it before. Even if completely true, it give Germany no right to invade, and for it to be true I need to take their word for it anyway. "The difference is I'm not lying" is what they said too.

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                          Better than Nazi Junta in charge.

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                          Do you still have electricity in russia?

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                            Ah right, "proof" from ivan.
                            https://www.thebulwark.com/p/false-flag-fantasies-in-ukraine

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                            Sure, several hundred witness testimonies including wounded protestors, 2,000 videos, 6,000 photos, and 30 gigabytes of radio intercepts that proves it was a false flag operation are just all lies.

                            Ivan Katchanovski talks about this very article here.

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