Too soon?
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I’m getting pretty fucking sick of seeing this ‘no one should be killed for their political beliefs’ take going around.
He wasn’t killed for his beliefs. He was killed because he dedicated his life to terrorizing everyone who isn’t a conservative white man, and was materially supporting state violence in the pursuit of white supremacy.
That is 100% something we have firmly established that people should be shot for, in multiple wars throughout the last few centuries.
His family shouldn't expect empathy, and he wouldn't want his death to distract from full Epstein file disclosure.
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Two in the thoughts, one in the prayers, you shitbag.
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He was literally lying about mass shootings when he was shot:
Immediately before the shooting, Kirk was taking questions for an audience member about mass shootings and gun violence.
“Do you know how many transgender Americans have been mass shooters over the last 10 years?” an audience member asked. Kirk responded, “Too many.”
The questioner followed up: “Do you know how many mass shooters there have been in America over the last 10 years?”
“Counting or not counting gang violence?” Kirk asked
Then a single shot rang out.
Sounds like he was trying to push for taking away gun rights for trans people.
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You sly dog! You got me to read your post four times before I noticed!
I'm surprised no one made the same joke first. Guess I'm ahead of the game.
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It's his own fault. Nobody told him to trip and fall on those bullets.
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My graph has chickens and roost but yeah
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There was a school shooting today in Colorado. Dead kids.
And yet the top news is this dude.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]That happens all the time it's not news.
Someone getting the justice they deserve? That's news!
But I didn't know about the school shooting. I am so fucking sick of this shit. It's not ok for the conservatives to have conversations with their kids about gay people existing but it's perfectly fine for me to have a conversation with my kids telling them they might die when they go to school right?
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I feel bad that his children had to witness that, and even if they hadn't been there (which they were) they'd undoubtedly have the video clip shoved in their faces eventually. That's a hell of a way to lose a parent.
The fact that he died while in the middle of talking about trans mass shooters being a huge problem certainly makes it feel like cosmic karma at work. I struggle to give a shit about the man himself being shot dead. But I do worry about political violence... it's a very rare occasion when murdering someone sitting in a chair talking is a good idea. Not a single person in his right-wing sphere of repugnance is going to do any self-reflection and change their ways, they'll just become even more rabidly anti-everything left of Hitler. Shit like this doesn't go unanswered too often. Violence is a contagion with no cure except time, and the clock gets set back another decade every time someone retaliates. I'm sure we could chain all of these assassinations together into a causal sequence. But even if they're all independent events, the narrative-makers will be hard at work making it sound like a grand battle of the ages, so the result is the same either way.
Source: History, memory...
P.S. Any bets that the shooter was a MAGA nut? Seems to be the trend
I feel bad that his children had to witness that, and even if they hadn’t been there (which they were) they’d undoubtedly have the video clip shoved in their faces eventually. That’s a hell of a way to lose a parent.
It's what he wanted. Quick, too.
It is fucked for those kids though. Not their fault.
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no one is going to hate you
There are some agitators out there who will villify anything, but for the most part you're right
The entire problem is that people like Charlie are specifically hating people who are doing nothing wrong and being neutral. I completely agree with you. He is the agitator. It shows you who the bad guys are when you see who they root against.
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Great foreshadowing too.
Earlier this year, Utah passed House Bill 128 allowing people to conceal carry firearms on university campuses. One of the campuses where conceal carry was now permitted is, of course, Utah Valley University, where Charlie Kirk was visiting today. He was sitting under a tent with the slogan "Prove Me Wrong".
Immediately before the shooting, he was taking questions from the audience:
“Do you know how many transgender Americans have been mass shooters over the last 10 years?” an audience member asked. Kirk responded, “Too many.”
The questioner followed up: “Do you know how many mass shooters there have been in America over the last 10 years?”
“Counting or not counting gang violence?” Kirk asked.
Then a single shot rang out.
It's unfortunate that he's ineligible for the Darwin Award because he leaves behind 2 very young children and a culture warrior wife, because otherwise he'd be a great nominee for the 2025 Darwin Awards. Normally to get a Darwin Award someone has to directly kill themselves. But, I think in this case we could have make an exception for someone who was a cheerleader for gun rights and was sitting directly under a banner saying "Prove Me Wrong" when he was killed with a gun.
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I feel bad that his children had to witness that, and even if they hadn't been there (which they were) they'd undoubtedly have the video clip shoved in their faces eventually. That's a hell of a way to lose a parent.
The fact that he died while in the middle of talking about trans mass shooters being a huge problem certainly makes it feel like cosmic karma at work. I struggle to give a shit about the man himself being shot dead. But I do worry about political violence... it's a very rare occasion when murdering someone sitting in a chair talking is a good idea. Not a single person in his right-wing sphere of repugnance is going to do any self-reflection and change their ways, they'll just become even more rabidly anti-everything left of Hitler. Shit like this doesn't go unanswered too often. Violence is a contagion with no cure except time, and the clock gets set back another decade every time someone retaliates. I'm sure we could chain all of these assassinations together into a causal sequence. But even if they're all independent events, the narrative-makers will be hard at work making it sound like a grand battle of the ages, so the result is the same either way.
Source: History, memory...
P.S. Any bets that the shooter was a MAGA nut? Seems to be the trend
Yeah his kids and family didn't deserve that.
He may have, but they didn't. That's why this kind of thing is usually frowned upon I suppose.
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I’m getting pretty fucking sick of seeing this ‘no one should be killed for their political beliefs’ take going around.
He wasn’t killed for his beliefs. He was killed because he dedicated his life to terrorizing everyone who isn’t a conservative white man, and was materially supporting state violence in the pursuit of white supremacy.
That is 100% something we have firmly established that people should be shot for, in multiple wars throughout the last few centuries.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Also, he died to something he constantly talked about as being a necessary sacrifice for "freedom".
Dying to a shooter at an university couldn‘t have happened to a better person than this fuckwad. I‘m just glad no one else was injured or killed at this incident. Truly a ToiletPaperUSA moment!
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Who did the violence again?
I am so sorry to hear your hero died AKA the great white MLK. If it is any solace he died proving his point. An "armed citizenry comes with a price" as he was found of saying.
Peace be with you.
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Nah empathy is for the weak.
Now finish the quote
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If you think the rights of people can be won without violence, you have not paid attention to history. This was never going to end peacefully.
There's a Wikipedia page on nonviolent revolutions, so is violence itself necessary or is the threat of violence sufficient? History may not actually be in complete agreement in favor of violent resistance.
"Nonviolent campaigns have a 53% success rate and only about a 20% rate of complete failure. Things are reversed for violent campaigns, which were only successful 23% of the time, and complete failures about 60% of the time. Violent campaigns succeeded partially in about 10% of cases, again comparing unfavorably to nonviolent campaigns, which resulted in partial successes over 20% of the time."
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I’m getting pretty fucking sick of seeing this ‘no one should be killed for their political beliefs’ take going around.
He wasn’t killed for his beliefs. He was killed because he dedicated his life to terrorizing everyone who isn’t a conservative white man, and was materially supporting state violence in the pursuit of white supremacy.
That is 100% something we have firmly established that people should be shot for, in multiple wars throughout the last few centuries.
If you're part of a movement that's taking vaccines away from babies, well, you're evil and people are going to respond to that.
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If you think the rights of people can be won without violence, you have not paid attention to history. This was never going to end peacefully.
Well go be violent then. Fuck it up for those of us that don’t want any part in your bullshit.
I’m out. I’m done. I’m tired of reading shit from you cowards who do nothing day in and day out but inspire crazy people.
You’re animals. You’re no better than goddamn wild animals…except you call other people to violence and do nothing. That’s all that is left of your humanity. You’re like Hitler. You dream of gassing your enemies but you’re too cowardly to run the camps yourselves.
Comment back when you’ve killed someone you coward. Go on. Get out there. What’s stopping you?
Let me guess, you’re too comfortable. Your life is ok. Day in and day out with your little dopamine hits. Dreaming and doing nothing.
Go on, coward. Kill someone. Or are you somehow above it? Is that why I’m reading about people other than you in the news every day?
Shut your goddamn mouth until you’ve fired a shot. When you do, I hope you’re crucified in the streets.
I’m so done. I really am.
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Sounds like he was trying to push for taking away gun rights for trans people.
It wouldn't surprise me one bit.
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That was not an easy watch.
I know, I had trouble breathing after laughing that hard
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If you think the rights of people can be won without violence, you have not paid attention to history. This was never going to end peacefully.
For those that don’t want to give X the traffic
Violence is NOT the answer. The answer is opens history book
uh oh
frantically starts flipping through pages
uh oh. oh no. no no no. uh oh
