Too soon?
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If you think the rights of people can be won without violence, you have not paid attention to history. This was never going to end peacefully.
There's a Wikipedia page on nonviolent revolutions, so is violence itself necessary or is the threat of violence sufficient? History may not actually be in complete agreement in favor of violent resistance.
"Nonviolent campaigns have a 53% success rate and only about a 20% rate of complete failure. Things are reversed for violent campaigns, which were only successful 23% of the time, and complete failures about 60% of the time. Violent campaigns succeeded partially in about 10% of cases, again comparing unfavorably to nonviolent campaigns, which resulted in partial successes over 20% of the time."
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I’m getting pretty fucking sick of seeing this ‘no one should be killed for their political beliefs’ take going around.
He wasn’t killed for his beliefs. He was killed because he dedicated his life to terrorizing everyone who isn’t a conservative white man, and was materially supporting state violence in the pursuit of white supremacy.
That is 100% something we have firmly established that people should be shot for, in multiple wars throughout the last few centuries.
If you're part of a movement that's taking vaccines away from babies, well, you're evil and people are going to respond to that.
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If you think the rights of people can be won without violence, you have not paid attention to history. This was never going to end peacefully.
Well go be violent then. Fuck it up for those of us that don’t want any part in your bullshit.
I’m out. I’m done. I’m tired of reading shit from you cowards who do nothing day in and day out but inspire crazy people.
You’re animals. You’re no better than goddamn wild animals…except you call other people to violence and do nothing. That’s all that is left of your humanity. You’re like Hitler. You dream of gassing your enemies but you’re too cowardly to run the camps yourselves.
Comment back when you’ve killed someone you coward. Go on. Get out there. What’s stopping you?
Let me guess, you’re too comfortable. Your life is ok. Day in and day out with your little dopamine hits. Dreaming and doing nothing.
Go on, coward. Kill someone. Or are you somehow above it? Is that why I’m reading about people other than you in the news every day?
Shut your goddamn mouth until you’ve fired a shot. When you do, I hope you’re crucified in the streets.
I’m so done. I really am.
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Sounds like he was trying to push for taking away gun rights for trans people.
It wouldn't surprise me one bit.
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That was not an easy watch.
I know, I had trouble breathing after laughing that hard
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If you think the rights of people can be won without violence, you have not paid attention to history. This was never going to end peacefully.
For those that don’t want to give X the traffic
Violence is NOT the answer. The answer is opens history book
uh oh
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uh oh. oh no. no no no. uh oh
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I’m getting pretty fucking sick of seeing this ‘no one should be killed for their political beliefs’ take going around.
He wasn’t killed for his beliefs. He was killed because he dedicated his life to terrorizing everyone who isn’t a conservative white man, and was materially supporting state violence in the pursuit of white supremacy.
That is 100% something we have firmly established that people should be shot for, in multiple wars throughout the last few centuries.
There was a way around this that would have resulted in no deaths. Trump should been prosecuted for the January 6th insurrection. Then we should have put a bunch of fascists in jail for a long time. Then we should have de-platformed grifters.
But none of that happens so. We get what we get.
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Did he get hit in the neck? That's a lot of blood
Yeah, kind of surprised there wasn't an arterial spray tbh.
Died in the middle of complaining about "gang violence"
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Pretty sure Wikipedia has a single button that changes all present tense to past sense. Someone who's more familiar with it correct me if I'm wrong though.
Wouldn't be surprised
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I actually looked up that meme template before making this, but then I realized that's not Charlie Kirk. It's another, though at least alive, conservative commentator Steven Crowder. Who, I imagine, is probably questioning his career choices today.
Are you suggesting that he might be (puts on sunglasses) changing his mind?
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I am so sorry to hear your hero died AKA the great white MLK. If it is any solace he died proving his point. An "armed citizenry comes with a price" as he was found of saying.
Peace be with you.
You're probably not very good at social interaction, are you? I didn't say anything praising him, I just intentionally spend time in left and right spaces so I understand both groups pretty well. It's depressing how many tools there everywhere, you aren't giving me much hope either.
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Yeah. Modern medicine is amazing, but that looks pretty much un-surviveable.
You'd be surprised. Trump would definitely have blabbed about it by now though
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Have you even sent your thoughts and prayers yet?
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Been looking for the link but kind of immediately regretted watching that jesus fuck that's a lot of blood.
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His family shouldn't expect empathy, and he wouldn't want his death to distract from full Epstein file disclosure.
I expect the NRA will stage a gunshow at a nearby site someplace in the next few days, right? Its what they do for school shootings and this was at a school. So Kirk's fam can stock up on cheap ammo.
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"Kirked" is a verb. Past tense obviously. /S
The civil war has been happening but mostly it's just feds playing with themselves using pawns trying to entice real human beings to join in.
Look at all the history of the CIA and fed assassinations... And look at that kill shot.
Look at the joke assignations attempts they used on trump... Because he wasn't supposed to really die yet.
There's a reason Kirk died and Trump didn't.
They are both pawns, but Kirk was a lower pawn.
Legal Modern Mafia that sacrifices their own by extorting people to kill for them. The same as the game in the streets. The sad part is most people don't realize they are used.
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Well go be violent then. Fuck it up for those of us that don’t want any part in your bullshit.
I’m out. I’m done. I’m tired of reading shit from you cowards who do nothing day in and day out but inspire crazy people.
You’re animals. You’re no better than goddamn wild animals…except you call other people to violence and do nothing. That’s all that is left of your humanity. You’re like Hitler. You dream of gassing your enemies but you’re too cowardly to run the camps yourselves.
Comment back when you’ve killed someone you coward. Go on. Get out there. What’s stopping you?
Let me guess, you’re too comfortable. Your life is ok. Day in and day out with your little dopamine hits. Dreaming and doing nothing.
Go on, coward. Kill someone. Or are you somehow above it? Is that why I’m reading about people other than you in the news every day?
Shut your goddamn mouth until you’ve fired a shot. When you do, I hope you’re crucified in the streets.
I’m so done. I really am.
I have killed someone in my life. I am not telling anyone to kill anyone either. I am pointing out the pure fact that we have never resolved the progress of human right without violence, and you are naive to think we could do it this time. If you don't want to kill people, I understand, it sucks, I know. However, thinking we can move forward without having violence is wrong, it has been happening for a while. The right has been routinely committing acts of terror for years now. They pulled the peace option off the table a long time ago.
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RIP Charlie Kirk.
You were a good Christian man with moral principles with a wife and 2 kids. You were killed by a lunatic while you were exercising your freedom of speech, you were persecuted by your opponents. Some may say that's a form of fascism, the same party that accused you of being.
The violent rhetoric of the left influenced some weak minded soul to take you from your children, and also taken your quotes out of context.
Charlie Kirk never robbed a pregnant woman at gun point, or robbed a bank, or killed a woman on a train, but instead encouraged open conversation between all parties so they could understand each other in a meaningful way.
May you rest in peace, and may your naysayers see the evil in their ways and repent. They may mock you because they're unable to refute your debates, but they will reap what they sow.
RIP Charlie Kirk
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There's a Wikipedia page on nonviolent revolutions, so is violence itself necessary or is the threat of violence sufficient? History may not actually be in complete agreement in favor of violent resistance.
"Nonviolent campaigns have a 53% success rate and only about a 20% rate of complete failure. Things are reversed for violent campaigns, which were only successful 23% of the time, and complete failures about 60% of the time. Violent campaigns succeeded partially in about 10% of cases, again comparing unfavorably to nonviolent campaigns, which resulted in partial successes over 20% of the time."
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Those campaigns were surrounded with violence. That is why they worked. Riots, killings, people getting beat up, people fighting police. the police committing acts of violence, etc., not having concerted, armed, resistance, does not mean non-violent. Like you say the threat of the violence they could see, getting bigger, is the reason to reach out to the non-violent party for diplomacy. But the threat has to be real.
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Nah empathy is for the weak.
He still has a right side artery.
