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  • ickplant@lemmy.worldI [email protected]

    https://mastodon.social/@Ulfh3dnar/115181548207581457 NSFL!

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    Been looking for the link but kind of immediately regretted watching that jesus fuck that's a lot of blood.

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    • M [email protected]

      His family shouldn't expect empathy, and he wouldn't want his death to distract from full Epstein file disclosure.

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      I expect the NRA will stage a gunshow at a nearby site someplace in the next few days, right? Its what they do for school shootings and this was at a school. So Kirk's fam can stock up on cheap ammo.

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      • jballs@sh.itjust.worksJ [email protected]
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        #262

        "Kirked" is a verb. Past tense obviously. /S

        The civil war has been happening but mostly it's just feds playing with themselves using pawns trying to entice real human beings to join in.

        Look at all the history of the CIA and fed assassinations... And look at that kill shot.

        Look at the joke assignations attempts they used on trump... Because he wasn't supposed to really die yet.

        There's a reason Kirk died and Trump didn't.

        They are both pawns, but Kirk was a lower pawn.

        Legal Modern Mafia that sacrifices their own by extorting people to kill for them. The same as the game in the streets. The sad part is most people don't realize they are used.

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        • T [email protected]

          Well go be violent then. Fuck it up for those of us that don’t want any part in your bullshit.

          I’m out. I’m done. I’m tired of reading shit from you cowards who do nothing day in and day out but inspire crazy people.

          You’re animals. You’re no better than goddamn wild animals…except you call other people to violence and do nothing. That’s all that is left of your humanity. You’re like Hitler. You dream of gassing your enemies but you’re too cowardly to run the camps yourselves.

          Comment back when you’ve killed someone you coward. Go on. Get out there. What’s stopping you?

          Let me guess, you’re too comfortable. Your life is ok. Day in and day out with your little dopamine hits. Dreaming and doing nothing.

          Go on, coward. Kill someone. Or are you somehow above it? Is that why I’m reading about people other than you in the news every day?

          Shut your goddamn mouth until you’ve fired a shot. When you do, I hope you’re crucified in the streets.

          I’m so done. I really am.

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          I have killed someone in my life. I am not telling anyone to kill anyone either. I am pointing out the pure fact that we have never resolved the progress of human right without violence, and you are naive to think we could do it this time. If you don't want to kill people, I understand, it sucks, I know. However, thinking we can move forward without having violence is wrong, it has been happening for a while. The right has been routinely committing acts of terror for years now. They pulled the peace option off the table a long time ago.

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            RIP Charlie Kirk.

            You were a good Christian man with moral principles with a wife and 2 kids. You were killed by a lunatic while you were exercising your freedom of speech, you were persecuted by your opponents. Some may say that's a form of fascism, the same party that accused you of being.

            The violent rhetoric of the left influenced some weak minded soul to take you from your children, and also taken your quotes out of context.

            Charlie Kirk never robbed a pregnant woman at gun point, or robbed a bank, or killed a woman on a train, but instead encouraged open conversation between all parties so they could understand each other in a meaningful way.

            May you rest in peace, and may your naysayers see the evil in their ways and repent. They may mock you because they're unable to refute your debates, but they will reap what they sow.

            RIP Charlie Kirk

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              There's a Wikipedia page on nonviolent revolutions, so is violence itself necessary or is the threat of violence sufficient? History may not actually be in complete agreement in favor of violent resistance.

              "Nonviolent campaigns have a 53% success rate and only about a 20% rate of complete failure. Things are reversed for violent campaigns, which were only successful 23% of the time, and complete failures about 60% of the time. Violent campaigns succeeded partially in about 10% of cases, again comparing unfavorably to nonviolent campaigns, which resulted in partial successes over 20% of the time."

              https://www.ericachenoweth.com/research/wcrw

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              Those campaigns were surrounded with violence. That is why they worked. Riots, killings, people getting beat up, people fighting police. the police committing acts of violence, etc., not having concerted, armed, resistance, does not mean non-violent. Like you say the threat of the violence they could see, getting bigger, is the reason to reach out to the non-violent party for diplomacy. But the threat has to be real.

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              • H [email protected]

                Nah empathy is for the weak.

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                He still has a right side artery.

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                • M [email protected]

                  have empathy for his children, who didn't ask to be born into this

                  and uh I guess that's about it

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                  They should have killed him first.

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                    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Revolution

                    Facts don’t care about your feelings.

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                    The irony of using the American revolution to justify murdering people for speaking their opinion...

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                      Curious. He claims to be pro life, but dies

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                      What a hypocrite

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                      • M [email protected]

                        You're aware that the overwhelming majority of murderers are right-wingers, right?

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                        Since you brought it up, do you have any numbers to support that?

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                          #271

                          Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety

                          ~Ben Franklin.

                          (Realized this could be miss interpreted. I mean Kirk doesn't deserve neither liberty nor safety)

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                            You're probably not very good at social interaction, are you? I didn't say anything praising him, I just intentionally spend time in left and right spaces so I understand both groups pretty well. It's depressing how many tools there everywhere, you aren't giving me much hope either.

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                            #272

                            Not at all, I just immediately suspected you of trolling based on what you said. I read your comment history and I confirmed my suspicion.

                            Speaking of social interactions, part of that is reading the room. This means understanding the temperature and leaning of the group you are discussing things with.

                            Kirk recognized this and very carefully crafted his image by omitting anytime someone put him in his place and using plausible deniability to conceal his misogynist and racist right wing viewpoints.

                            Your MLK comments were particularly interesting considering he was known for saying things like Martin Luther King Jr. is exaggerated, calling King “awful… not a good person.” and also calling the Civil Rights Movement "a huge mistake."

                            Perhaps you are just ill informed and made a mistake. From my viewpoint you could perhaps be just like him. Someone pushing a right wing agenda that is not afraid to lie and conceal the truth.

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                              The irony of using the American revolution to justify murdering people for speaking their opinion...

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                              You claimed it is impossible to murder your way into democracy, I gave you an example of people murdering their way into democracy.

                              Shifting the goalposts to be about ‘muh freeze peaches’ is weak.

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                              • M [email protected]

                                This is just the trolley problem. If you can save 5 people by killing 1, is it correct to do so, or take no action?

                                Well, we've got lots of people taking no action, and look where that's got us.

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                                You don't get to just kill people that you suspect are evil. This isn't some complicated ethical dilemma.

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                                • M [email protected]

                                  he would die for his beliefs

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                                  Well, not voluntarily. There's a difference.

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                                    #276

                                    ::: spoiler I guess some people can change.

                                    :::

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                                      Don't worry. This is the casus belli that the Guardians Of Pedophiles have been trying to force for months. As much as I love California, I think it's time to head back to BC. Things are about to get much worse in the US.

                                      My advice to anyone else that isn't prepared to fight for survival is to find a way out now. You don't have long.

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                                      #277

                                      I'm not intending to leave my country to the Nazis.

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                                        I have no idea but I like to imagine hundreds of editors rushing out every time there's a prominent death to be the first to change it.

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                                        Especially this one.

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                                        • merc@sh.itjust.worksM [email protected]

                                          Great foreshadowing too.

                                          Earlier this year, Utah passed House Bill 128 allowing people to conceal carry firearms on university campuses. One of the campuses where conceal carry was now permitted is, of course, Utah Valley University, where Charlie Kirk was visiting today. He was sitting under a tent with the slogan "Prove Me Wrong".

                                          Immediately before the shooting, he was taking questions from the audience:

                                          “Do you know how many transgender Americans have been mass shooters over the last 10 years?” an audience member asked. Kirk responded, “Too many.”

                                          The questioner followed up: “Do you know how many mass shooters there have been in America over the last 10 years?”

                                          “Counting or not counting gang violence?” Kirk asked.

                                          Then a single shot rang out.

                                          https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/conservative-activist-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-valley-university-event-spokesperson-says

                                          It's unfortunate that he's ineligible for the Darwin Award because he leaves behind 2 very young children and a culture warrior wife, because otherwise he'd be a great nominee for the 2025 Darwin Awards. Normally to get a Darwin Award someone has to directly kill themselves. But, I think in this case we could have make an exception for someone who was a cheerleader for gun rights and was sitting directly under a banner saying "Prove Me Wrong" when he was killed with a gun.

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                                          honestly deserves a whole new award category a la Herman Cain Award

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