Too soon?
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Dude you are sick
Our citizenry is headed right toward authoritarian dystopia. I think what we have in store is worse than death. If you were trans and black right now, you would not defend them. They are causing anxiety and suffering, and they absolutely do not care about the Genocide in Gaza. This surveillance state, widening inequality, constant war, rampant racism, homophobia, and everything else they are doing will destroy us all. We have no future. That is sick to me. Psychopaths win every time. These will too. I am just holding off until I need to die.
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What do do think Civil wars are then?
Those aren't about murdering fellow citizens because of what they say.
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Those aren't about murdering fellow citizens because of what they say.
That's news to me.
Because Civil wars are fought between fellow citizens and usally about positions those people have espoused.
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There are several liters of blood in a full sized adult. I don't understand how people are so shocked by a cup or two's worth.
Yes i know, but it's not something you see everyday in HD and close up.
Most of the gore videos I saw as a teen didn't even come close to how clear this was and i saw a cartel beheading video.
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Ehhhh, I wouldn't be for making death a prerequisite. That's just ending life for no good reason. Of course senseless death happens all the time, but normalizing and requiring it is a hell of a choice...
That's the point. A gun's purpose is to kill.
And I was thinking of the victim being an animal that needs to be euthanized or something.
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You don't get to just kill people that you suspect are evil. This isn't some complicated ethical dilemma.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]suspect? rofl! Charlie was evil. Unquestionably.
Does a good person call empathy a weakness? Does a good person say some gun deaths are totally acceptable for the 2a? Does a good person dogwhistle about minorities and cast blame on trans people for things they didn't do?
You're either woefully stupid or trolling. You should think before you type either way. Occam's Razer should require some thought.
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That's news to me.
Because Civil wars are fought between fellow citizens and usally about positions those people have espoused.
If you don't acknowledge the difference between war and murdering someone in cold blood without warning, then there isn't any point continuing this conversation. Also I hope for your sake that you don't cross paths with anyone who thinks like you do, but has different opinions.
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There's a Wikipedia page on nonviolent revolutions, so is violence itself necessary or is the threat of violence sufficient? History may not actually be in complete agreement in favor of violent resistance.
"Nonviolent campaigns have a 53% success rate and only about a 20% rate of complete failure. Things are reversed for violent campaigns, which were only successful 23% of the time, and complete failures about 60% of the time. Violent campaigns succeeded partially in about 10% of cases, again comparing unfavorably to nonviolent campaigns, which resulted in partial successes over 20% of the time."
Something tells me you don't actually understand the difference between a violent campaign and a nonviolent campaign.
Yes, the goals cannot be violent. That doesn't mean violence cannot be extremely useful when applied tactfully.
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We will be lucky to stop civil war.
That's OK. A civil war is a small price to pay for having the 2nd amendment to protect the 1st.
Or something like that, I heard it somewhere.
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Well go be violent then. Fuck it up for those of us that don’t want any part in your bullshit.
I’m out. I’m done. I’m tired of reading shit from you cowards who do nothing day in and day out but inspire crazy people.
You’re animals. You’re no better than goddamn wild animals…except you call other people to violence and do nothing. That’s all that is left of your humanity. You’re like Hitler. You dream of gassing your enemies but you’re too cowardly to run the camps yourselves.
Comment back when you’ve killed someone you coward. Go on. Get out there. What’s stopping you?
Let me guess, you’re too comfortable. Your life is ok. Day in and day out with your little dopamine hits. Dreaming and doing nothing.
Go on, coward. Kill someone. Or are you somehow above it? Is that why I’m reading about people other than you in the news every day?
Shut your goddamn mouth until you’ve fired a shot. When you do, I hope you’re crucified in the streets.
I’m so done. I really am.
rofl what an actual loser you are. Way to completely and utterly fail to understand the paradox of tolerance.
I bet you don't even understand the principles of self defense... Fucking pathetic. Leave if a Nazi being killed upsets you so much. I promise Lemmy will not pamper your dumb ass.
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If you don't acknowledge the difference between war and murdering someone in cold blood without warning, then there isn't any point continuing this conversation. Also I hope for your sake that you don't cross paths with anyone who thinks like you do, but has different opinions.
Dude says hateful shit for years and gets popped. He had enough time to repent.
You've crossed paths with people like me if you have ever left your home.
You are delusional.
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rofl what an actual loser you are. Way to completely and utterly fail to understand the paradox of tolerance.
I bet you don't even understand the principles of self defense... Fucking pathetic. Leave if a Nazi being killed upsets you so much. I promise Lemmy will not pamper your dumb ass.
Go fight, pussy. I look forward to reading about you in the news.
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This is some tin foil hat shit solely because Trump is too stupid to do any elaborate planning like this
Trump is a figurehead. Project 2025 was/is a massive plan that took years to lay out.
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In the united states these rights are seen as given by a higher power and administered by the government. With the belief that if the government fails to administer them individuals may pursue them by other means
wrote on last edited by [email protected]In the united states these rights are seen as given by a higher power and administered by the government. With the belief that if the government fails to administer them individuals may pursue them by other means
actually that's how it works in a lot of places. the government is just the organization that tries to realize the ideals that were already there in the population before the government existed. the government is just the one trying to make them real. if the government fails to do its job, somebody else does it instead.
there is literally a whole philosophy around the concept that the "state is the reality of the good idea", where "god" is often understood to be the set of "all good ideas". so, in other words, the state is seen as the reality of god. you can read literally antique philosophy about this; the view is that old. IIRC it was plato who discussed this, but i could be wrong. could have also been aristotle.
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You don’t know me. I’m covered from head to toe with scars from growing up in a world much like the one you grew up in. Hospital trip after hospital trip, police officers taking Polaroids, swearing that my brother and I were wrestling and a mirror fell on me, or my hand got broke because I crashed an atv. I was locked in a room and starved to the point that I was stunted, the only male in my family who isn’t over 6ft tall. I sat in a courtroom after the cotton swab that was shoved in my ass didn’t provide the evidence needed to put a motherfucker in jail.
Somehow, I just don’t have a taste for violence.
I’m not sad that Charlie Kirk died. I’m sad that someone killed another human being in front of the world and I’m terrified of what comes next. I’m terrified that he’ll be a martyr and inspire more people than he ever could have inspired living his life to its natural conclusion. I have no doubt that some of that inspiration will be violent retaliation.
Just like when the moron shot at Trump and missed. You can go back to the comment I made that day. It went something like, “Well, they made him a goddamn hero and the election is over now.”
I think we could have prevented the rise of Donald Trump. I think people like Kirk and Shapiro could be made irrelevant. I believe we can do that with our goddamn brains and we don’t have to be apes to get what we want.
Just because you're not a fighter doesn't mean you're right.
Did your dad stop because you didn't fight back?
I'm sorry, but you sound more like my older brother than anything. Guess which one of us didn't get beat as a teen at some point?
A bully doesn't stop just because you're peaceful. A psychopath doesn't go easier on people because there's less resistance. Even you tried violence - you think incarceration isn't a form of violence? If you say no, you'd be saying when you got locked up in a room, that was a peaceful action then. But we both know that's not the case, is it? Even you tried putting the fucker in a jail - just not with your own violence but with the backing of the state.
Trump nearly getting shot didn't win him the election. Running Kamala as his opponent did, and I had told my family as much back then (this is assuming there were no electoral shenanigans).
And whether Charlie Kirk lived or died, there already has been violence against others. That's what ICE is. That's what the gay voice actor for King of the Hill getting killed was. That's what Kyle Rittenhouse did.
The government is run by people like your dad. Was your dad someone who would change if nothing was done against him? What if now, you made it so he could avoid legal consequences too? What if he knew the police, the courts, etc would never touch him?
That's what you're dealing with.
I don't blame you for being a coward, and thinking being peaceful will maybe make things better. Not everyone has that fire in them. My brother didn't, and my mother didn't for the longest time either. Some people do, some don't. That's not your fault. You don't have to support those willing to fight back.
But you sure as hell don't get to say it's wrong for them to do so either. They fight so people like you, hopefully, one day, don't go through the shit you did. They kill if they have to because there's no alternative left. Had they done so much, much sooner, things wouldn't have been as bad as they are. But the bullies have convinced the majority that docility will make things better - because having no opposition is what they want.
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The saddest thing about it all. MAGA already blaming Dems. No one knows anything about the shooter or motive. But it's the Dems fault
wrote on last edited by [email protected]It doesn't matter who the shooter was, or what their actual motive may have been. This was the line before the bullet was fired. Now it's up to the regime to issue swift and disproportionate reprisals, probably against pre-selected targets: trans people, universities, blue cities, etc.
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Nuremberg was after the holocaust. You can't just skip over the fact that Charlie Kirk has not instigated a holocaust, nor can you assume that he would have. That's not even a logical fallacy, it's simply not even true. Accusing me of a logical fallacy is rich in irony. Seriously, it's so dumb I don't even know what to say.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Stating not breaking laws is equivalent to doing no harm / doing nothing wrong is the logical fallacy, specifically "appeal to law".
Saying a genocide has to happen in order for someone's evil to be justified however, is insane. By your logic, attempted murder shouldn't be a crime either, because no one got killed.
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“Undeniably.” Not at all. I deny it. The Dem administrations played a pivotal role in building ICE to this level, and Kamala absolutely devastated the immigrant community as Biden’s border czar.
You should diversify the kind of news sources you’re looking at.
Kamala and get administration wouldn't have put an antivaxxer in charge of the FDC or climate deniers in charge of the EPA etc.
Nor would they have had straight up thugs running around like the current ICE.
The Dems (or more specifically, the DNC) have definitely enabled on purpose the Republicans. But they at least mostly followed the law and kept order.
I understand the frustration of people not understanding that the DNC Democrats are very right wing as well, and even actually collaborate with Republicans / fascists. But they're more culturally liberal oligarchs than straight up authoritarian fascists. People would still be harmed by their policies, but groups like Transexuals wouldn't have to fear they'll get killed by the government.
Equating the two completely is bad faith. They're very close - cut a neoliberal and a fascist bleeds - but they're not the same. Under Kamala, the might have been a 10% chance at a more peaceful resolution via elections (maybe 25% if Trump died, 50% if he actually went to jail) because leftists like Mamandi could have kept running and winning some power.
But under Trump, there's no more chance of that at all, PLUS it accelerates all the bad thing.
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The Republicans’ rubber stamp, and lack of a competent opposition, is proving to be an absolute nightmare for the party. They’re getting away with everything they ever wanted, and people are seeing the immediate consequences play out. When your policies start killing people, people literally fight back. You’ve given people nothing to lose, and this population is armed to the teeth. What did they think was going to happen?
You can’t declare war on a population, and then expect to walk freely in the open air among that population.
The Republicans getting everything they ever wanted will be what caused the party’s destruction. The Democrats helping them do it will destroy them, too.
True, but let's not pretend this is some natural result of fucking around like with climate change. This is a result that will have to be affected through actions of individuals. There will be people doing "bad" things for good reasons. Things that need to be done to create that downfall.
It will not be pretty and the perpetraitors will not be treated well by the media. It will have the potential to spark a proper civil war, (as if one's not already here) and it will be ugly. We must be prepared for bad news and prepare our relatives to not fall for the blatant lies that will be reported as fact (as if that hasn't been happening since time immemorial).
