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‘The tyranny of apps’: those without smartphones are unfairly penalised, say campaigners

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      I flat-out refuse to do business with any that requires I use an app. I won't even scan a QR code for a restaurant menu; that's my cue to go eat elsewhere.

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        There should be a warning label on any establishment or product that requires a smartphone to use.

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          I flat-out refuse to do business with any that requires I use an app. I won't even scan a QR code for a restaurant menu; that's my cue to go eat elsewhere.

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          I don't mind the whole online menu thing. It's probably an environmental net positive, but it's bs if they don't have ANY physical copies for those who can't or don't want to for whatever reason.

          If they wanted me to install something, though, that'd be a 100% instant nope.

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            i don't have one. i don't want one, either.

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              If you don't have a smart phone in the US, even temporally, your almost a second class citizen.

              Then if you don't install corporate apps on your phone, there are even more problems for you.

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                I flat-out refuse to do business with any that requires I use an app. I won't even scan a QR code for a restaurant menu; that's my cue to go eat elsewhere.

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                The funny thing about qr codes for restaurant menus to me, as someone that studied menu design. Is that actual menus are designed specific ways make the restaurant more profit and make it easier for people to find what they want. Whereas qr codes often bring one to a hastily designed list of categories which are not only less intuitive but also less manipulative. So people will end up taking longer to order less profitable dishes.

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                  I don't mind the whole online menu thing. It's probably an environmental net positive, but it's bs if they don't have ANY physical copies for those who can't or don't want to for whatever reason.

                  If they wanted me to install something, though, that'd be a 100% instant nope.

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                  An online menu requires power to be used (on people's phones and the server). Is that really a minor contribution in comparison to printing paper and maybe laminating it?

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                    An online menu requires power to be used (on people's phones and the server). Is that really a minor contribution in comparison to printing paper and maybe laminating it?

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                    Considering your average printer is a piece of shit that needs to be replaced quite often, yes, using a website is probably more energy efficient.

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                      Even if you did want apps the majority only offer it from 1 of the 2 popular repositories (" stores "). It's a shame they do not have a way to track that lost sale.

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                        There should be a warning label on any establishment or product that requires a smartphone to use.

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                        How about this:

                        At the apartments I recently moved out of, there were no quarter slots on the washing machines. They were an app that required a bluetooth connection to pay.

                        So if you lived there and didn't have a smartphone? Go fuck yourself, you don't get to do laundry.

                        Unless you bothered to check the laundry room when you were looking at the apartment, you wouldn't know. No warnings.

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                          especially if you don't have an iphone. I have seen so many accessories and apps that were made for use on iphones which would also be useful for android devices as well. my transplant clinic has a patient portal that has an app for iphones but nothing for android so you have to use their website.

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                            Considering your average printer is a piece of shit that needs to be replaced quite often, yes, using a website is probably more energy efficient.

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                            Most companies will be using laser printers, some of which may outlive me. Toner is cheap and lasts an age.

                            Inkjet printers are cheap for a reason. They’re a scam.

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                              You don't need an app to use a loyalty card...

                              But yes I am against supermarkets that only provide discounts if you use their loyalty program, which in turn allows them to track your purchases. Especially since many items are priced with the discount as the "fair" price and the full price is really just a money grab.

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                                I literally had to switch bank accounts because I couldn't reset my password "on the web" and required me to use Virgin Money's app.

                                Customer service agent(s) on the phone after prolonged discussions why their app wouldn't work on three Android phones right in front of me surfaced, and I shit you not

                                Well sir, I have my iPhone here and can login just fine maybe you should buy one of those instead

                                That day I found out about this

                                https://www.currentaccountswitch.co.uk/

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                                  I don't mind the whole online menu thing. It's probably an environmental net positive, but it's bs if they don't have ANY physical copies for those who can't or don't want to for whatever reason.

                                  If they wanted me to install something, though, that'd be a 100% instant nope.

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                                  I mean I simply refuse to ask QR code phishing is a thing

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                                    I flat-out refuse to do business with any that requires I use an app. I won't even scan a QR code for a restaurant menu; that's my cue to go eat elsewhere.

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                                    Scan QR code. Order on your phone. Pay on your phone. Asks for a tip.

                                    So uh, what exactly am I tipping you here for dawg?

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                                      the problem is also apple's slow adoption (or outright refusal) to open up various web apis to make web apps more prevalent.

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                                        I literally had to switch bank accounts because I couldn't reset my password "on the web" and required me to use Virgin Money's app.

                                        Customer service agent(s) on the phone after prolonged discussions why their app wouldn't work on three Android phones right in front of me surfaced, and I shit you not

                                        Well sir, I have my iPhone here and can login just fine maybe you should buy one of those instead

                                        That day I found out about this

                                        https://www.currentaccountswitch.co.uk/

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                                        have you tried stop being poor?!

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                                          have you tried stop being poor?!

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                                          Maybe I could try buying and scalping an iPhone on eBay

                                          :thinky face:

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