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  • robolemmy@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

    AOL instant messenger was late to the party. ICQ started the instant messaging fad… that little “uh oh” notification sound is permanently burned into my brain.

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    I was on ICQ as well, but most people weren't. I was generalizing to the contemporary audience.

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    • kolanaki@pawb.socialK [email protected]

      Oh, but not "Boomer" so you can still say "Ok, Boomer?"

      They should just be numbered. From best to worst, so Millenials would be 1 and Boomers would be like... 6? 7? How many generations have we had 🤔

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      To me, "boomer" is a mentality. Sure, they were the kids born after the WW2 economic boom, I get that. But I feel that the mentality is "old and dying off and not worth considering".

      Based on what I could find, the generations are made up demographics with no real actual definitive delineation. Too many sources can't agree on where one starts and the other ends.

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        Shhhh! We don’t need them asking us to fix their shit anymore. Let the millennials pretend they are the only ones that can.

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        I need to learn this wisdom. Gen x and I fix way too much bullshit from idiots. The only plus side is often people give me their old PCs and some of them have one or two great components. I recycle what I can and salvage anything worth saving but I need to spend less time fixing worthless hardware.

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        • remembertheapollo_@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

          To my fellow Gen X’ers…

          Shhh!

          Let someone else deal with the inept on the other end of the phone. Be happy we’re being ignored again.

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          I've spent the last decade training Millennials just for that task.

          I'll be over here screwing with the K8S cluster if you need me.

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          • remembertheapollo_@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

            To my fellow Gen X’ers…

            Shhh!

            Let someone else deal with the inept on the other end of the phone. Be happy we’re being ignored again.

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            I was going to complain, but you're damned right.

            Silence is golden.

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            • return2ozma@lemmy.worldR [email protected]
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              The difference between Gen X and Millennials is that at around age 35 (circa 2009) I started telling people, who were almost always friends of friends who wouldn't actually hang out with me normally, that I charge $100 an hour. Millennials still do it for free...

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                The difference between Gen X and Millennials is that at around age 35 (circa 2009) I started telling people, who were almost always friends of friends who wouldn't actually hang out with me normally, that I charge $100 an hour. Millennials still do it for free...

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                I wouldn't even suck dick that low... Why would I take less pay for something I DONT like to do???

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                • I [email protected]

                  Fine with me. Leave us the hell alone.

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                  Oh it's a printer? I, uh, yeah, no I don't know anything about printers sorry.

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                  • ripandterror@sh.itjust.worksR [email protected]

                    I wouldn't even suck dick that low... Why would I take less pay for something I DONT like to do???

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                    Haha...fair enough. Honestly though, I suspect anything above free would have worked. Some people have absolutely no respect for other people's time. Especially since I don't "fix computers" for a living.

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                    • tigeruppercut@lemmy.zipT [email protected]

                      The point is late X/early millennial were the only ones "forced" to fix tech if we wanted to use it (obviously people older than that needed to as well but they were less likely to be into tech). Shit rarely worked out of the box, plug and play was shit, nothing was standardized, etc. Around the late 90s into the 2000s things worked more reliably without needing tinkering, and then apps came in and shifted things even further from tech literacy.

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                      I'm Gen Z and I was still "forced" to fix tech if I wanted to use it. I mean sure, I didn't have to deal with IRQs, setting up autoexec.bat and config.sys, and so on, but if you're not at least a little bit inclined you wouldn't have the patience to fix things even when you're "forced". You'd just give up and move on. There's always something else to do. Things have gotten easier for sure, which is reducing the exposure to "falling in the rabbit hole" but one way or another interested people will get into it.

                      It's like how cars are getting simpler to use, but you still have car guys around. We don't say only old people know how to drive stick.

                      In any case, there's better things to use as a generational boundary; like how a single G5 piano note will trigger a very specific group of people.

                      Edit: I went off on a tangent above and got argumentative. My original comment before this one was intended to be sarcastic but tone doesn't carry well over text. This whole thing isn't really something to argue about so I'll leave it at that.

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                      • resplendent606@piefed.socialR [email protected]

                        As one of the older Millennials (1982), I can say that there is a lot of truth to this meme.

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                        Yeah, this is more young X and old millennial. Xers born in the late 60s-early 70s and millennials born in the late 80s-90s don't know shit.

                        I've heard us (young Xs and old millennials) described as the organ Oregon Trail generation. We grew up along side the tech so we understand it better than your average person from before or after.

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                        • moseschrute@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

                          Lol, you lost me there. I've read up on the various RAID configurations. I've heard about CephFS. I don't know much about it, but I get the sense it's the new kid on the block.

                          I actually have a RAID question for you. I want to setup a little RAID array starting with 2 mirrored drives and add more drives later. But it seems there is no easy way to migrate RAID versions? Let's say I want to start with 2, then 3, than 4 drives as stuff fills up. I always want some level of redundancy. And I don't want to use any additional drives aside from the 2, 3, then 4 in the array. Is this possible? Either with RAID or with CephFS?

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                          Funny you should mention that, because it's what got me thinking about Ceph in the first place. My other Proxmox node has a 2-drive mirrored ZFS pool, and I went to add a third drive to it and realized that I'd have to move all the data off and rebuild it from scratch, so I started looking for other solutions.

                          So yeah, I think Ceph can add to an array after-the-fact like that (in addition to the not-waste-capacity-of-random-assorted-disks thing), but I haven't figured it out enough yet to be sure.

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                            Someone should rename the gens. I never know what people are refering to with the arbitrary names. Maybe gen a, b and c would work.

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                            • moseschrute@lemmy.worldM [email protected]
                              • The lowest level is transistors, which are electronic switches that have an on and off state. In other words, they are binary and can represent 0 and 1
                              • Those get combined into gates of two inputs. An “and” gate outputs 1 if both its inputs are 1. An “or” gate outputs 1 if either of its inputs are 1. And Xor gate outputs 1 if and only if one of its inputs is 1.
                              • A bunch of other complicated shit happens
                              • Boom assembly. Don’t try and read or write it, because it will make you wanna quit computers
                              • C comes into play. Designed to unfuck, assembly so you can actually write readable code. Just don’t forget to release your memory
                              • More complicated shit. Something about kernels and GNU. Userland vs kernel land? Idk
                                • ARM might be different since it can run process outside of userland and kernel I think? Something about secure compute/marketing BS
                              • Inside of user land, we have the web browser. This is there the cool shit happens.
                              • The browser runs JavaScript, CSS and HTML. JavaScript is a single threaded, but nonblocking language with an even loop and microtask queue.
                              • Inside of the browser we run React. React is a framework where UI is a function of state and the data flows in one direction. It can also be used to slam your CPU.
                              • Now that we’re into high level languages, it would only be fun if it looped back around to the beginning. So we invoke some C code that has been compiled to web assembly. Mmmm how efficient

                              Edit: I tried to do this all off the top of my head. After writing this, I think I meant user space vs kernel space. Idk if user land is a word

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                              Transistors are only on and off switches when run in saturation. This is relevant to CPUs in the sense that the rising/falling edge and jitter affect the setup and hold times and thus the maximum clock rate. End pedantry.

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                                Funny you should mention that, because it's what got me thinking about Ceph in the first place. My other Proxmox node has a 2-drive mirrored ZFS pool, and I went to add a third drive to it and realized that I'd have to move all the data off and rebuild it from scratch, so I started looking for other solutions.

                                So yeah, I think Ceph can add to an array after-the-fact like that (in addition to the not-waste-capacity-of-random-assorted-disks thing), but I haven't figured it out enough yet to be sure.

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                                I also totally was mixing up Ceph with ZFS. Linux tech mentions ZFS a lot. That’s the source of most of my RAID knowledge lol

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                                  Transistors are only on and off switches when run in saturation. This is relevant to CPUs in the sense that the rising/falling edge and jitter affect the setup and hold times and thus the maximum clock rate. End pedantry.

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                                  This is the content I’m here for! Please continue I want to learn more

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                                    Tldr; you got your feelings hurt over a meme

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                                    Gen x doesn't have feelings

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                                      lol. My dad’s a retired engineer and my mom was a computer programmer. Literal actual baby boomers.

                                      I work in IT. Gen-X. Which you forgot because you’re bad.

                                      My daughter just got her degree in Cybersecurity. Millennial.

                                      tl;dr: STFU with this stupid inter-generational tribalism, it’s wrong and stupid.

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                                      You're all educated professionals. This meme is more about your average user.

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                                        Someone should rename the gens. I never know what people are refering to with the arbitrary names. Maybe gen a, b and c would work.

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                                        They did use letters, but they started with Gen X, because X was a cool letter in the 80s. Gen Y was changed to millennials because that was the time period they grew up in. Then Gen Z, which is the end of the alphabet, so they restarted, but with the Greek alphabet for gen alpha.

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                                        • O [email protected]

                                          Al Gore didn't need a smear campaign for his nonsense. I was there too, we were laughing our asses off at the shit he said.

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                                          "We don't think, as some people have argued, that Gore intended to claim he "invented" the Internet. Moreover, there is no question in our minds that while serving as Senator, Gore's initiatives had a significant and beneficial effect on the still-evolving Internet. The fact of the matter is that Gore was talking about and promoting the Internet long before most people were listening."

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