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    Yeah, this is more young X and old millennial. Xers born in the late 60s-early 70s and millennials born in the late 80s-90s don't know shit.

    I've heard us (young Xs and old millennials) described as the organ Oregon Trail generation. We grew up along side the tech so we understand it better than your average person from before or after.

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    I'm not sure why people are down voting this. I agree 100%. The most techie people I have ever known are part of what you called "the Oregon Trail generation" (I love this term).

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      I'm Gen Z and I was still "forced" to fix tech if I wanted to use it. I mean sure, I didn't have to deal with IRQs, setting up autoexec.bat and config.sys, and so on, but if you're not at least a little bit inclined you wouldn't have the patience to fix things even when you're "forced". You'd just give up and move on. There's always something else to do. Things have gotten easier for sure, which is reducing the exposure to "falling in the rabbit hole" but one way or another interested people will get into it.

      It's like how cars are getting simpler to use, but you still have car guys around. We don't say only old people know how to drive stick.

      In any case, there's better things to use as a generational boundary; like how a single G5 piano note will trigger a very specific group of people.

      Edit: I went off on a tangent above and got argumentative. My original comment before this one was intended to be sarcastic but tone doesn't carry well over text. This whole thing isn't really something to argue about so I'll leave it at that.

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      G5 piano note

      '72 Gen X here, I HEAR YOUR CALL!!!

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      • R [email protected]

        Yeah, this is more young X and old millennial. Xers born in the late 60s-early 70s and millennials born in the late 80s-90s don't know shit.

        I've heard us (young Xs and old millennials) described as the organ Oregon Trail generation. We grew up along side the tech so we understand it better than your average person from before or after.

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        Is this a black market body parts game? Drug wars meets Oregon Trail?

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        • R [email protected]

          Yeah, this is more young X and old millennial. Xers born in the late 60s-early 70s and millennials born in the late 80s-90s don't know shit.

          I've heard us (young Xs and old millennials) described as the organ Oregon Trail generation. We grew up along side the tech so we understand it better than your average person from before or after.

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          Oregon Trail.

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            The meh generation

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            so middle of the road that they are left out of every discussion about generations. Boomers may suck, but at least they’re memorable lol

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            • soleinvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zoneS [email protected]

              They mean Aslan, aka big kitty Jesus, from the Narnia books.

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              I read big kitty Jesus as big titty Jesus and was confused

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                I read big kitty Jesus as big titty Jesus and was confused

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                You're thinking of Gandalf Big Naturals. Easy mistake to make.

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                  i figured gen z would start fixing my computer once i hit my current age (41); turns out i dont know any gen z's that understand how computers work.

                  im really tired of being everyone's tech support 😞

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                  I am Gen Z, I can copy paste commands from online forums into the terminal, then proceed to fuck shit up. 🫠

                  (Don't ask me to type commands from memory, I'd rather use windows spyware than deal with command line torture)

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                    I'm actually, genuinely shocked by the ageism in such debates every single time. There's no such thing as age-based incompetence, TBH. There are sound people for every field available everywhere. Why do we have to assume this? Every generation has at least a few people who are competent in their field, even in computing. It's more important that the literate of us unite to end illiteracy and stop injustice being done in the name of technology. This, honestly, is just making fun of each other, for apparently no sound reason. And I'm talking about the comments, not the meme. I might, or not, get some sour disagreements, or straight-up very bitter replies for arguing even this, ...and again, I ask: Do we reeaaally have to do this?

                    Technology too has a supposed duty of bringing people together...!

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                      My parents are Gen X, me and my older brother are Gen Z.

                      Parents keep asking, nay, DEMANDING, for us to fix their shit. Then i proceeded to have a fight with my brother about who's responsibility is it to fix it.

                      Parent's don't know how to use a tax filing website 🤦‍♂️ (Tbf, they don't know how to fill out paper forms either).

                      The first time we've ever touched a real computer with internet access was around 2010, before that, we were in mainland China and we had no internet (either too expensive, or unavailable as a service in the areas we lived in, not sure which, or my parents are just being cheap)

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                      • O [email protected]

                        Oregon Trail.

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                        Thank you, autocorrect strikes again.

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                        • tigeruppercut@lemmy.zipT [email protected]

                          The point is late X/early millennial were the only ones "forced" to fix tech if we wanted to use it (obviously people older than that needed to as well but they were less likely to be into tech). Shit rarely worked out of the box, plug and play was shit, nothing was standardized, etc. Around the late 90s into the 2000s things worked more reliably without needing tinkering, and then apps came in and shifted things even further from tech literacy.

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                          The PC revolution started with the Apple 2 in 1977. In the early 80's everyone had a Commodore 64. By the mid 80's everyone had a PC. If you were born in the 80's, you were not editing autoexec files in diapers.

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                          • R [email protected]

                            They aren't saying every person of those generations is the same. Your family is very techy and it makes sense that they'd be knowledgeable, but the point of the meme is that there was a generation that grew up with tech that kinda worked most of the time, forcing them to learn how to use it to be effective, leading to a higher proportion of people knowing how computers work. Nowadays, except if your job is fixing computers, the chance you know them in-depth and how to tinker with them is much lower, because there is no need, they just work most of the time.

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                            Your family is very techy and it makes sense that they’d be knowledgeable, but the point of the meme is that there was a generation that grew up with tech that kinda worked most of the time, forcing them to learn how to use it to be effective,

                            The problem is their dates are off. Home Computers went mainstream in 1977 with the Apple II.

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                              so middle of the road that they are left out of every discussion about generations. Boomers may suck, but at least they’re memorable lol

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                              I for one am happy to be left out of the 'generation war'. It's stupid. In my day blah blah blah- no one cares gramps. Live in the now.

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                              • resplendent606@piefed.socialR [email protected]

                                I'm not sure why people are down voting this. I agree 100%. The most techie people I have ever known are part of what you called "the Oregon Trail generation" (I love this term).

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                                People always get pissy about these generation things. It's not about some people being better than others. There was a period of time where being able to use a computer meant being able to take a tabula rasa machine, install an os using a bunch of disks and a large manual, and figure out how to fix anything without the internet. There was also a period of time where home computers were becoming common. Those two periods overlapped and created a group of non-professional people mostly (MOSTLY) born between 75ish and 85ish that are much better able to use and troubleshoot tech than people born before or after.

                                But you always end up attracting a bunch of douches saying "I was born in (whenever) and I have a degree in (whatever) and I know more than people blah blah blah." Yeah, I'm not talking about professionals or hardcore hobbyists, I'm taking about regular jerkoffs that had to figure this shit out without specialized education or the internet. It was a unique period that created a group a people different than what came before or after. No judgement, it just is. For some reason certain people take offense to that.

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                                  I need to learn this wisdom. Gen x and I fix way too much bullshit from idiots. The only plus side is often people give me their old PCs and some of them have one or two great components. I recycle what I can and salvage anything worth saving but I need to spend less time fixing worthless hardware.

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                                  Just pretend you're going senile or 'the new stuff' is just too advanced. If that doesn't work you could always claim to have started a 'tech repair/recycling' side hustle and start billing people.

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                                  • brahvim@lemmy.kde.socialB [email protected]

                                    I'm actually, genuinely shocked by the ageism in such debates every single time. There's no such thing as age-based incompetence, TBH. There are sound people for every field available everywhere. Why do we have to assume this? Every generation has at least a few people who are competent in their field, even in computing. It's more important that the literate of us unite to end illiteracy and stop injustice being done in the name of technology. This, honestly, is just making fun of each other, for apparently no sound reason. And I'm talking about the comments, not the meme. I might, or not, get some sour disagreements, or straight-up very bitter replies for arguing even this, ...and again, I ask: Do we reeaaally have to do this?

                                    Technology too has a supposed duty of bringing people together...!

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                                    Ok boomer!

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                                    • R [email protected]

                                      People always get pissy about these generation things. It's not about some people being better than others. There was a period of time where being able to use a computer meant being able to take a tabula rasa machine, install an os using a bunch of disks and a large manual, and figure out how to fix anything without the internet. There was also a period of time where home computers were becoming common. Those two periods overlapped and created a group of non-professional people mostly (MOSTLY) born between 75ish and 85ish that are much better able to use and troubleshoot tech than people born before or after.

                                      But you always end up attracting a bunch of douches saying "I was born in (whenever) and I have a degree in (whatever) and I know more than people blah blah blah." Yeah, I'm not talking about professionals or hardcore hobbyists, I'm taking about regular jerkoffs that had to figure this shit out without specialized education or the internet. It was a unique period that created a group a people different than what came before or after. No judgement, it just is. For some reason certain people take offense to that.

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                                      Instead of "the Oregon Trail generation" we should be called the "I read the damn manual" generation.

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                                        I for one am happy to be left out of the 'generation war'. It's stupid. In my day blah blah blah- no one cares gramps. Live in the now.

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                                        Back in my day we had weed. We still do, but we did back then too.

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                                          Is this a black market body parts game? Drug wars meets Oregon Trail?

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                                          I'm not sure what their comment said before they fixed it, but if it was "The Organ Trail", that game exists. It's basically "The Oregon Trail", but with zombies.

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