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  • D [email protected]

    By that logic, Bill Gates and Steve Wozniak were Boomers so Boomers all know how to fix computers.

    Let's face it, "generational" assumptions are all too coarse to be valuable - and are probably just another way to separate and divide us all so we stop thinking about how to take down the ruling classes.

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    My dad is close to 80. He's been PC savvy since the super early 1980s and he still is, although he is stuck in Windows because he's a monster in the astrophotography world and most of his software isn't supported in Linux etc. I dated a girl in college whose dad was one of the founding creators of the internet. Unlike Al Gore lol.

    I taught my younger brother how to program in basic and pascal in the 80s. He's now a super successful programmer. I'm pretty poor but I like to build fix and upgrade people's computers as a hobby. I am gen x.

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      They said boomers so same dif.

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        I'm GenX, I bought my first PC in 1988, and made a living in part, setting up LANs, back when knowing anything at all about computers could get you a job. GenX early adopters taught millennials computers.

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          Gen Z / alpha: "fix the computer? Do you mean the phone?"

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            I, a millennial, built computers as a hobby. My daughter, a Gen Alpha, has no concept of computers and no interest outside of school work and tablets.

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              • devolution@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

                I, a millennial, built computers as a hobby. My daughter, a Gen Alpha, has no concept of computers and no interest outside of school work and tablets.

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                Use the forbidden fruit or caged reward method to teach.

                Start with something like (assuming they have have a low tier phone) giving them a Google Pixel, but with the stock ROM erased, as a random day gift (not birthday or such).

                When they ask why it won't turn on right, tell them it's because it needs a ROM to be installed to be used. When they ask what that is, open up Wikipedia for them, along with the GrapheneOS instructions.

                You can do it with other stuff too, like "no wifi at home past 7pm", but give them a router that needs something installed to run and say "but if you setup this and plug it in to the internet, it'll be your own wifi you can use at all times" and so on.

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                • semi_hemi_demigod@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                  I know of one, and it’s my kid. And they’re just as frustrated as I am about how little their peers know about computers

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                  i did the world a favor and decided to not have kids. sadly, this also means i am unable to hand down a generation's worth of computer knowledge, heh.

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                  • semi_hemi_demigod@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                    I know of one, and it’s my kid. And they’re just as frustrated as I am about how little their peers know about computers

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                    Depending on definitions, I'm either a millennial or gen-z. Some of my team mates are awesome and know everything there is to know about computers. Others have knowledge gaps that make me question whether they went to uni. They're also the same people who commonly don't know how to find answers to things. They're also the people proclaiming the loudest about the greatness of Gippers

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                      Use the forbidden fruit or caged reward method to teach.

                      Start with something like (assuming they have have a low tier phone) giving them a Google Pixel, but with the stock ROM erased, as a random day gift (not birthday or such).

                      When they ask why it won't turn on right, tell them it's because it needs a ROM to be installed to be used. When they ask what that is, open up Wikipedia for them, along with the GrapheneOS instructions.

                      You can do it with other stuff too, like "no wifi at home past 7pm", but give them a router that needs something installed to run and say "but if you setup this and plug it in to the internet, it'll be your own wifi you can use at all times" and so on.

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                      That's an incredibly cool idea.

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                        As one of those Gen-X that actually helped create the dumpster fire we call the modern Internet, I have come to realize that we fall into two camps. You either look young enough to be classified as a Millennial (my wife) or you look old enough to immediately be thrown in the Boomer bucket (me)...which is really unfair because no other generation has hated and fought the fucking Boomers longer than us.

                        I'd love to show some GenZ photos of Matt Damon, Bem Affleck, Cillian Murphy, etc. and ask them what generation they think they are.

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                        • user224@lemmy.sdf.orgU [email protected]

                          "Humanity eliminated!"

                          Meanwhile Gen X and New Zealand:
                          There used to be a picture

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                          And Wyoming, because Wyoming doesn't exist.

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                          • moseschrute@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

                            Let’s settle this once and for all.

                            I’m Gen Z. Quiz me on how computers work.

                            Edit: I bet I can run circles around some of you millennials 🙂

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                            I have a Proxmox server with a random assortment of hard drives and SSDs of various capacities {8TB, 2TB, 2TB, 240GB, 240GB}. I want to create a CephFS filesystem spanning them, using erasure-coded pools in order to maximize capacity (kind of like RAID 5 except without requiring same-sized drives). How do I configure my CRUSH Map in order to accomplish this?

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                              I guess between C and assembly there’s abstract syntax trees and maybe LLVM, which is probably also written in C. Idk I skipped compilers in college.

                              I also know the networking stack has a bunch of layers, but that felt like its own separate thing to “computers”. I think UDP makes more errors than TCP but UDP also go brrrrr

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                              Hehe, llvm is a compiler framework, basically provides all the utilities for processing an AST.

                              ASTs have various flavors but they're all the same thing an intermediate representation for a program that optimizers and linkers use to create binaries.

                              The network stacks meh, 6 or 7 layers depending on what protocol you use but in brief: physical, transport, application. More and more functionality has moved into the transport in the name of efficiency, see quic. But in general not worth worrying about most of the abstraction was nonsense anyways.

                              And you missed out compilers was one of the most useful classes in cs circulums since it teaches you how languages work.

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                              • jomiran@lemmy.mlJ [email protected]

                                As one of those Gen-X that actually helped create the dumpster fire we call the modern Internet, I have come to realize that we fall into two camps. You either look young enough to be classified as a Millennial (my wife) or you look old enough to immediately be thrown in the Boomer bucket (me)...which is really unfair because no other generation has hated and fought the fucking Boomers longer than us.

                                I'd love to show some GenZ photos of Matt Damon, Bem Affleck, Cillian Murphy, etc. and ask them what generation they think they are.

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                                The struggle is, we all live long enough to be the next boomers. Maybe in 10 years it is: "OK, Gen-X"

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                                  Older Millenial here. It was definitely GenX that paved the way for the computer world I learned, and it was mostly GenX who wrote the books and taught the lessons (often informal) that brought us what knowledge we have, at least in the beginning. Plus a small selection of exceptional individuals from older generations, including, dare I say it,… the baby boomers.

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                                  Older millennial here, too. This is absolutely correct. (Btw we are called xenials 1981–86)

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                                    My dad is close to 80. He's been PC savvy since the super early 1980s and he still is, although he is stuck in Windows because he's a monster in the astrophotography world and most of his software isn't supported in Linux etc. I dated a girl in college whose dad was one of the founding creators of the internet. Unlike Al Gore lol.

                                    I taught my younger brother how to program in basic and pascal in the 80s. He's now a super successful programmer. I'm pretty poor but I like to build fix and upgrade people's computers as a hobby. I am gen x.

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                                    I dated a girl in college whose dad was one of the founding creators of the internet. Unlike Al Gore lol.

                                    Bullshit. If her dad was one of the founders of the Internet, you'd know that the Al Gore meme was a Republican smear campaign.

                                    I worked for Vint Cerf in the early 90's. This is what he wrote to defend Al Gore against the Republican smear campaign:

                                    https://web.eecs.umich.edu/~fessler/misc/funny/gore,net.txt

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                                      I dated a girl in college whose dad was one of the founding creators of the internet. Unlike Al Gore lol.

                                      Bullshit. If her dad was one of the founders of the Internet, you'd know that the Al Gore meme was a Republican smear campaign.

                                      I worked for Vint Cerf in the early 90's. This is what he wrote to defend Al Gore against the Republican smear campaign:

                                      https://web.eecs.umich.edu/~fessler/misc/funny/gore,net.txt

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                                      He was a hell of a lot more of a founder than Al Gore was. Gore was a marketer at best.

                                      Edit: you all are downvoting without even knowing who he was. Drink piss assholes.

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                                        lol. My dad’s a retired engineer and my mom was a computer programmer. Literal actual baby boomers.

                                        I work in IT. Gen-X. Which you forgot because you’re bad.

                                        My daughter just got her degree in Cybersecurity. Millennial.

                                        tl;dr: STFU with this stupid inter-generational tribalism, it’s wrong and stupid.

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                                        • D [email protected]

                                          My dad is close to 80. He's been PC savvy since the super early 1980s and he still is, although he is stuck in Windows because he's a monster in the astrophotography world and most of his software isn't supported in Linux etc. I dated a girl in college whose dad was one of the founding creators of the internet. Unlike Al Gore lol.

                                          I taught my younger brother how to program in basic and pascal in the 80s. He's now a super successful programmer. I'm pretty poor but I like to build fix and upgrade people's computers as a hobby. I am gen x.

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                                          Here's a 40 second video of Vint Cerf saying Al Gore did help create the internet:

                                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtuAJoEv5nQ

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