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  • moseschrute@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

    I guess between C and assembly there’s abstract syntax trees and maybe LLVM, which is probably also written in C. Idk I skipped compilers in college.

    I also know the networking stack has a bunch of layers, but that felt like its own separate thing to “computers”. I think UDP makes more errors than TCP but UDP also go brrrrr

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    Hehe, llvm is a compiler framework, basically provides all the utilities for processing an AST.

    ASTs have various flavors but they're all the same thing an intermediate representation for a program that optimizers and linkers use to create binaries.

    The network stacks meh, 6 or 7 layers depending on what protocol you use but in brief: physical, transport, application. More and more functionality has moved into the transport in the name of efficiency, see quic. But in general not worth worrying about most of the abstraction was nonsense anyways.

    And you missed out compilers was one of the most useful classes in cs circulums since it teaches you how languages work.

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    • jomiran@lemmy.mlJ [email protected]

      As one of those Gen-X that actually helped create the dumpster fire we call the modern Internet, I have come to realize that we fall into two camps. You either look young enough to be classified as a Millennial (my wife) or you look old enough to immediately be thrown in the Boomer bucket (me)...which is really unfair because no other generation has hated and fought the fucking Boomers longer than us.

      I'd love to show some GenZ photos of Matt Damon, Bem Affleck, Cillian Murphy, etc. and ask them what generation they think they are.

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      The struggle is, we all live long enough to be the next boomers. Maybe in 10 years it is: "OK, Gen-X"

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        Older Millenial here. It was definitely GenX that paved the way for the computer world I learned, and it was mostly GenX who wrote the books and taught the lessons (often informal) that brought us what knowledge we have, at least in the beginning. Plus a small selection of exceptional individuals from older generations, including, dare I say it,… the baby boomers.

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        Older millennial here, too. This is absolutely correct. (Btw we are called xenials 1981–86)

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          My dad is close to 80. He's been PC savvy since the super early 1980s and he still is, although he is stuck in Windows because he's a monster in the astrophotography world and most of his software isn't supported in Linux etc. I dated a girl in college whose dad was one of the founding creators of the internet. Unlike Al Gore lol.

          I taught my younger brother how to program in basic and pascal in the 80s. He's now a super successful programmer. I'm pretty poor but I like to build fix and upgrade people's computers as a hobby. I am gen x.

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          I dated a girl in college whose dad was one of the founding creators of the internet. Unlike Al Gore lol.

          Bullshit. If her dad was one of the founders of the Internet, you'd know that the Al Gore meme was a Republican smear campaign.

          I worked for Vint Cerf in the early 90's. This is what he wrote to defend Al Gore against the Republican smear campaign:

          https://web.eecs.umich.edu/~fessler/misc/funny/gore,net.txt

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            I dated a girl in college whose dad was one of the founding creators of the internet. Unlike Al Gore lol.

            Bullshit. If her dad was one of the founders of the Internet, you'd know that the Al Gore meme was a Republican smear campaign.

            I worked for Vint Cerf in the early 90's. This is what he wrote to defend Al Gore against the Republican smear campaign:

            https://web.eecs.umich.edu/~fessler/misc/funny/gore,net.txt

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            He was a hell of a lot more of a founder than Al Gore was. Gore was a marketer at best.

            Edit: you all are downvoting without even knowing who he was. Drink piss assholes.

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              lol. My dad’s a retired engineer and my mom was a computer programmer. Literal actual baby boomers.

              I work in IT. Gen-X. Which you forgot because you’re bad.

              My daughter just got her degree in Cybersecurity. Millennial.

              tl;dr: STFU with this stupid inter-generational tribalism, it’s wrong and stupid.

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                My dad is close to 80. He's been PC savvy since the super early 1980s and he still is, although he is stuck in Windows because he's a monster in the astrophotography world and most of his software isn't supported in Linux etc. I dated a girl in college whose dad was one of the founding creators of the internet. Unlike Al Gore lol.

                I taught my younger brother how to program in basic and pascal in the 80s. He's now a super successful programmer. I'm pretty poor but I like to build fix and upgrade people's computers as a hobby. I am gen x.

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                Here's a 40 second video of Vint Cerf saying Al Gore did help create the internet:

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtuAJoEv5nQ

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                  Gen X is the Aslan lion meme: “Do not cite the deep computer repair magic to me, Millennial. I was there when it was written.”

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                    The struggle is, we all live long enough to be the next boomers. Maybe in 10 years it is: "OK, Gen-X"

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                    I think what's happening is Millenials are starting to get the "OK Boomer".

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                      He was a hell of a lot more of a founder than Al Gore was. Gore was a marketer at best.

                      Edit: you all are downvoting without even knowing who he was. Drink piss assholes.

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                      Al Gore never claimed to have been the founder of the Internet. Vint Cerf and Bob Kahn both defended Al Gore against idiots like you.

                      Rush Limbaugh was on the radio daily in the early 90's calling Al Gore's information superhighway a Democratic Boondoggle. Republicans were fighting to kill the Internet. Al Gore was fighting since the 80's to fund it so it could grow into something bigger than a research network.

                      If Eisenhower can get credit for the US Interstate Highway system despite not pouring a drop of concrete, then Al Gore gets credit for the Internet.

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                        Al Gore never claimed to have been the founder of the Internet. Vint Cerf and Bob Kahn both defended Al Gore against idiots like you.

                        Rush Limbaugh was on the radio daily in the early 90's calling Al Gore's information superhighway a Democratic Boondoggle. Republicans were fighting to kill the Internet. Al Gore was fighting since the 80's to fund it so it could grow into something bigger than a research network.

                        If Eisenhower can get credit for the US Interstate Highway system despite not pouring a drop of concrete, then Al Gore gets credit for the Internet.

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                        You really love that piece of shit don't you?

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                          You really love that piece of shit don't you?

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                          I worked for Vint Cerf. I later started my own ISP. I know the history of the Internet because I lived it.

                          I quoted Vint Cerf. What do you have to support your claim?

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                            interestingly, here in the balkans, there are plenty of gen z techy guys. they aren't full blown engineers but they can fix a lot of basic everyday problems. proud to be slavic lol

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                              Though i’m the very tail end of genX and a “computer expert”, I pretty much think that the millennial generation being the only generation was all part of a solid de-education plan. At the rate we’re going Its only a matter of time where the tech we have today is forced to be only approved OS, controlled, monitored and IT capable people who know how to bypass will be arrested for violating the law.

                              The water is starting to get warm…

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                              It wont even be that hard. Take their gibbity away now and a lot of people (young and old) will be helpless. Or, what will actually happen, minorly change gibbity outputs to fulfill your political agenda to become the first trillionaire, all the while the population doesn't know theyre being fed trash.

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                                How does computers work?

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                                Spicy rocks

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                                • ohstopyellingatme@lemmy.worldO [email protected]

                                  Gen X is the Aslan lion meme: “Do not cite the deep computer repair magic to me, Millennial. I was there when it was written.”

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                                  Asian lion?

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                                    I worked for Vint Cerf. I later started my own ISP. I know the history of the Internet because I lived it.

                                    I quoted Vint Cerf. What do you have to support your claim?

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                                    Barry Leiner. He didn't like me dating his daughter because I wasn't Jewish. But man did he love his Celica. It wasn't fancy, but it was to him.

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                                      Gen X here. If I cared what any of those age groups thought I would feel slighted.

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                                        no, they're just choosing to not fuck with this shit because they've had enough

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                                          lol. My dad’s a retired engineer and my mom was a computer programmer. Literal actual baby boomers.

                                          I work in IT. Gen-X. Which you forgot because you’re bad.

                                          My daughter just got her degree in Cybersecurity. Millennial.

                                          tl;dr: STFU with this stupid inter-generational tribalism, it’s wrong and stupid.

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                                          j/k That's awesome.

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