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New Bill to Effectively Kill Anime & Other Piracy in the U.S. Gets Backing by Netflix, Disney & Sony

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  • B [email protected]

    Sounds like their strategy is to force US companies to block access to piracy sites.

    I already run my torrent client through a non-US VPN so this can literally be bypassed by adding this to my prowlarr docker compose:

    network_mode: service:gluetun

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    What VPN do you recommend?

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    • B [email protected]

      Sounds like their strategy is to force US companies to block access to piracy sites.

      I already run my torrent client through a non-US VPN so this can literally be bypassed by adding this to my prowlarr docker compose:

      network_mode: service:gluetun

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      Thank you, I've been using my own docker image that adds in the PIA scripts and creates a Dante SOCKS5 server which works decently but I'd like something a bit more provider agnostic in case I want to change.

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      • mcasq_qsacj_234@lemmy.zipM [email protected]

        But wouldn't that go against freedom of expression and the internet?

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        Freedom of expression for the corporations you know the "people" who matter?

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        • mcasq_qsacj_234@lemmy.zipM [email protected]

          But wouldn't that go against freedom of expression and the internet?

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          It might. If it causes undue burden on ISPs or services like Cloudflare, for example, the law will probably be scrapped by some part of Congress or a judge.

          And even if it somehow survives all of that, a VPN with a server in another country will make this bill pointless.

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            Make something people want to buy. That will help more.

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              Make something people want to buy. That will help more.

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              It's crazy that Netflix originally knew this back in the 2010s. Somehow, over the years, they managed to forget this little nugget of wisdom.

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                I started using pirated software in 1990, back when my first PC was gifted to me. All software I had was copied because I could not afford jack shit on my own. It is thanks to pirated (and open source) software that I have the career I have, and can afford to spend thousands of dollars on legitimate software, music, movies, books, etc.

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                  Anyone offhandedly know how this would affect Usenet

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                  • iheartcheese@lemmy.worldI [email protected]

                    What VPN do you recommend?

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                    I don't really have a recommendation atm, I used to use mullvad but for torrenting I feel like the lack of port forwarding was hurting my ability to seed so I switched to proton. I also recently added Usenet into my mix and since many providers bundle a VPN subscription - and mine in particular supposedly also supports port forwarding (usenetdirect bundles a ghost path VPN subscription), I'm gonna try to get it to work with that so I don't have to pay for a VPN separately but I haven't tried it yet.

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                    • jomiran@lemmy.mlJ [email protected]

                      I started using pirated software in 1990, back when my first PC was gifted to me. All software I had was copied because I could not afford jack shit on my own. It is thanks to pirated (and open source) software that I have the career I have, and can afford to spend thousands of dollars on legitimate software, music, movies, books, etc.

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                      https://i.imgur.com/673VSsT.gif

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                        Been sailing the seas since 98. No intention of stopping. One thing I can promise is that you can't stop it.

                        Pirates always...uh...find a way.

                        In fact, when streaming services came out and were super affordable, it actually became a bit harder to find pirated movies/shows because people actually opted for the legal option. If the government wants to pull this garbage, it'll just bring many back into the fold and make it easier for me to sail the seas.

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                        • jomiran@lemmy.mlJ [email protected]

                          I started using pirated software in 1990, back when my first PC was gifted to me. All software I had was copied because I could not afford jack shit on my own. It is thanks to pirated (and open source) software that I have the career I have, and can afford to spend thousands of dollars on legitimate software, music, movies, books, etc.

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                          It's like Gabe said (paraphrased): "Piracy is a service problem, not a pricing problem."

                          Make it easy to buy stuff and people will. But the more barriers you put up, the more people will pirate. Granted, there are persons like you (and I counted among those at one point) who cannot afford things from time-to-time, but we're a minority. Every game I've ever pirated from those days I have made sure to purchase once I was able to.

                          Make it available for easy purchase and people will buy it.

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                            https://i.imgur.com/673VSsT.gif

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                            Don’t copy that floppy!

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                              It is impossible to ban piracy. The whole concept is that it's not legal to begin with.

                              I bet Lars Ulrich is so proud that he killed music piracy back when he killed napster.

                              Except wait.....no he didn't he killed A service. Meaning singular. The concept of piracy moved on. We got limewire and torrents.

                              The ONLY thing that has slowed (if not stopped) music piracy is making the content readily and easily available in a convienent consumption method at a reasonable price.

                              Shocking, I know.

                              The invention of iTunes CHARGING money for music in a (at the time) new more convienent method of music consumption at a reasonable price did leaps and bounds more to destroy piracy than Napsters downfall ever could.

                              Now if only video services would learn this lession. Because it's the same lession. I don't know how they missed the memo on this.

                              Put your video in one centralized place. Make it hassle free to watch. Charge a reasonable price. Piracy dies overnight.

                              And just to prove it, show of hands. Who here would go through the effort and risk of pirating, if Netflix had everything you wanted to watch, for $5 a month? Who here would say no, and still pirate? Reply below and tell me if you would still pirate with those conditions?

                              But instead, netflix is pushing $20 a month, and the video hosting is fractured among multiple hosts, all of which overcharge, AND want to serve ads.

                              Oh hey, right on cue. It's a skull and bones flag approaching.

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                              • popekingjoe@lemmy.worldP [email protected]

                                It's like Gabe said (paraphrased): "Piracy is a service problem, not a pricing problem."

                                Make it easy to buy stuff and people will. But the more barriers you put up, the more people will pirate. Granted, there are persons like you (and I counted among those at one point) who cannot afford things from time-to-time, but we're a minority. Every game I've ever pirated from those days I have made sure to purchase once I was able to.

                                Make it available for easy purchase and people will buy it.

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                                Make it easy to buy stuff and people will.

                                In case you haven't worked it out by now, the following advice may be of help:

                                They're not gonna do that

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                                • chozo@fedia.ioC [email protected]

                                  It's crazy that Netflix originally knew this back in the 2010s. Somehow, over the years, they managed to forget this little nugget of wisdom.

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                                  They didn't forget, they simply became big enough they can act like every other corporation.

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                                    Good luck.

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                                    • mcasq_qsacj_234@lemmy.zipM [email protected]

                                      But wouldn't that go against freedom of expression and the internet?

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                                      The current administration is seemingly trying to kill the very concept of free speech and expression.

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                                        This is a huge deal.

                                        More people should be fighting this.

                                        Giving this much power to corporations isn't right.

                                        If all else, copyright owners of any media should have the same power so they can effective end AI from stealing their content.

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                                        • L [email protected]

                                          It is impossible to ban piracy. The whole concept is that it's not legal to begin with.

                                          I bet Lars Ulrich is so proud that he killed music piracy back when he killed napster.

                                          Except wait.....no he didn't he killed A service. Meaning singular. The concept of piracy moved on. We got limewire and torrents.

                                          The ONLY thing that has slowed (if not stopped) music piracy is making the content readily and easily available in a convienent consumption method at a reasonable price.

                                          Shocking, I know.

                                          The invention of iTunes CHARGING money for music in a (at the time) new more convienent method of music consumption at a reasonable price did leaps and bounds more to destroy piracy than Napsters downfall ever could.

                                          Now if only video services would learn this lession. Because it's the same lession. I don't know how they missed the memo on this.

                                          Put your video in one centralized place. Make it hassle free to watch. Charge a reasonable price. Piracy dies overnight.

                                          And just to prove it, show of hands. Who here would go through the effort and risk of pirating, if Netflix had everything you wanted to watch, for $5 a month? Who here would say no, and still pirate? Reply below and tell me if you would still pirate with those conditions?

                                          But instead, netflix is pushing $20 a month, and the video hosting is fractured among multiple hosts, all of which overcharge, AND want to serve ads.

                                          Oh hey, right on cue. It's a skull and bones flag approaching.

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                                          I would pay for the sub, but still seed for my friends in poorer countries where $5 USD is a hell of a lot of money.

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