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New Bill to Effectively Kill Anime & Other Piracy in the U.S. Gets Backing by Netflix, Disney & Sony

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  • F [email protected]

    I would still pirate — but most normie pirates wouldn’t.

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    .....but why?

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      .....but why?

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      Why would I spend money on proprietary software that tracks me and sells my data when it’s trivially easy for me to set up a FOSS alternative and actually own the video files myself.

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        Corporate legislation, making America Great as always.

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          If you read the bill, heavily sponsored by the MPA, part of it is about forcing ISPs (and presumably US based VPNs) to block the DNS/URLs of "foreign criminal" sites.

          It's laying the groundwork for a Great American Firewall.

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          So many long games are being played now, it's like everything is laying groundwork for something else. Would be nice for laws to just do what they do.

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            FWIW, Lidarr works the worst out of the arr stack for me too. I don't know if there's just not enough well indexed material in my sources or what, but yeah, not great.

            If your entire experience with the arr stack has been Lidarr so far, give it another shot! Sonarr and Radarr work absolutely perfectly. It's just such a nice feeling to open Jellyfin (or I guess Plex) on the TV and go "oh nice new episode is out!"

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            I don't really watch TV much in the first place of my own choice. A few things my partner wants to watch but that's about it. Music I get download with yt-dpl -x, I think that was it anyway as I set an alias for it

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              It is impossible to ban piracy. The whole concept is that it's not legal to begin with.

              I bet Lars Ulrich is so proud that he killed music piracy back when he killed napster.

              Except wait.....no he didn't he killed A service. Meaning singular. The concept of piracy moved on. We got limewire and torrents.

              The ONLY thing that has slowed (if not stopped) music piracy is making the content readily and easily available in a convienent consumption method at a reasonable price.

              Shocking, I know.

              The invention of iTunes CHARGING money for music in a (at the time) new more convienent method of music consumption at a reasonable price did leaps and bounds more to destroy piracy than Napsters downfall ever could.

              Now if only video services would learn this lession. Because it's the same lession. I don't know how they missed the memo on this.

              Put your video in one centralized place. Make it hassle free to watch. Charge a reasonable price. Piracy dies overnight.

              And just to prove it, show of hands. Who here would go through the effort and risk of pirating, if Netflix had everything you wanted to watch, for $5 a month? Who here would say no, and still pirate? Reply below and tell me if you would still pirate with those conditions?

              But instead, netflix is pushing $20 a month, and the video hosting is fractured among multiple hosts, all of which overcharge, AND want to serve ads.

              Oh hey, right on cue. It's a skull and bones flag approaching.

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              I remember as kids we shared music by Bluetooth or copying files on a memory stick. You are not stopping that.

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                Funilly enough as somebody who has been using the Internet since being a working class teen in a poor European nation in the early 90s and thus knowing all about pirating, GoG is what made me stop pirating games (and even after they came up with GoG Galaxy I still kept downloading offline installers, plus my purchases in Steam have always been pretty limited in comparison to those in GoG exactly because in Steam my access to install a game can be removed at any time) whilst things like Netflix never stopped my pirating of Movies and TV-Series exactly because it was a streaming service which I would have to pay forever to maintain access to the Films and Series I liked rather than a Film and Series store were I could buy to keep (and, adding to this, during the peak period of VHS tapes and DVDs I actually did buy a lot of physical media).

                Anecdotal, I know, but it's funny that my behaviour over the years almost perfect matches what you describe.

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                I want to like GoG but their Linux support can be pretty awful at times. It took over a week for X4 to update the Linux version on GoG compared to steam that in the end I refunded it and bought on steam. Also proton is pretty nice to have.

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                  Good luck.

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                  And you still can't stop someone just playing it and recording the audio from outside of the VM.

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                  • remembertheapollo_@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

                    Oh. Making something illegal illegal again? That’ll be effective.

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                    It's a slippery slope. Soon they will make doing illegal things a crime.

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                      If you read the bill, heavily sponsored by the MPA, part of it is about forcing ISPs (and presumably US based VPNs) to block the DNS/URLs of "foreign criminal" sites.

                      It's laying the groundwork for a Great American Firewall.

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                      If you use a US-based VPN, you fucked up yourself.

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                      • krompus@lemmy.worldK [email protected]

                        Freedomwall

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                        Wouldn't be the first wall he put up in the name of freedom

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                          It's a slippery slope. Soon they will make doing illegal things a crime.

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                          They could take it a step further and threaten penalties for doing illegal things.

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                            If you use a US-based VPN, you fucked up yourself.

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                            Viva la Mullvad. I was sick of being bullied into buying more to get a deal. It may not be the cheapest, but I love that it's the same price across the board.

                            Plus, the only way you're going to get anything cheaper is by locking into a 1-3 year plan when you may not even need it every month.

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                              It is impossible to ban piracy. The whole concept is that it's not legal to begin with.

                              I bet Lars Ulrich is so proud that he killed music piracy back when he killed napster.

                              Except wait.....no he didn't he killed A service. Meaning singular. The concept of piracy moved on. We got limewire and torrents.

                              The ONLY thing that has slowed (if not stopped) music piracy is making the content readily and easily available in a convienent consumption method at a reasonable price.

                              Shocking, I know.

                              The invention of iTunes CHARGING money for music in a (at the time) new more convienent method of music consumption at a reasonable price did leaps and bounds more to destroy piracy than Napsters downfall ever could.

                              Now if only video services would learn this lession. Because it's the same lession. I don't know how they missed the memo on this.

                              Put your video in one centralized place. Make it hassle free to watch. Charge a reasonable price. Piracy dies overnight.

                              And just to prove it, show of hands. Who here would go through the effort and risk of pirating, if Netflix had everything you wanted to watch, for $5 a month? Who here would say no, and still pirate? Reply below and tell me if you would still pirate with those conditions?

                              But instead, netflix is pushing $20 a month, and the video hosting is fractured among multiple hosts, all of which overcharge, AND want to serve ads.

                              Oh hey, right on cue. It's a skull and bones flag approaching.

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                              Word... this is why I used spotify for a long time, when it used to be a good service... pirating wasn't worth the hassle.

                              now almost everything is worth the hassle

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                                But they can make up excuses for their arsenal for whenever they want to ban a site they don't like from common eyes.

                                "It was banned because it was pornography"

                                "It was banned because it was displaying pirated content"

                                "It was banned because it harmed the public good"

                                They want control over what the common people can see, hear, say, and think.

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                                Yeah, but for every dictator there's countless intelligent revolutionaries. Especially when it comes to the internet.

                                They're really shooting themselves in the foot trying to deny us/force overcharge the very thing they use to make us complacent in the first place: media.

                                If they were smart they'd ignore this bill. It would just bring attention to their attempt to essentially seize the internet and for what? For us just to get around it again anyway?

                                Not to mention if they enforce US VPNs to conform it'll just result in more currency leaving the country. No wonder this fucking floundering economy is all our fault.

                                Governing is like holding a marble to the table with your thumb. The more you press down, the more likely that marble is to shoot out and break your shit.

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                                  Corporate legislation, making America Great as always.

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                                  Best laws money can buy!

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                                  • ratzchatsubo@lemm.eeR [email protected]

                                    Who pays for vpns anymore. Isn't proton VPN free?

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                                    How does proton cover that expense?

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                                      It's a slippery slope. Soon they will make doing illegal things a crime.

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                                      But not if they're the ones doing the illegal stuff, apparently.

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                                        Do they not know the concept of piracy? That's like Walmart and Target backing a new bill to stop shoplifting.

                                        They could just make a better service. Between the password sharing, and everything being scattered everywhere, what did they expect? I'm going to pay for half a dozen services and still not get to watch what I want? Or I may be able to watch it and pay for the privilege to see ubskippable ads? You can only beat us with so many sticks before we stop feeling it. Cole back with a carrot.

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                                          I want to like GoG but their Linux support can be pretty awful at times. It took over a week for X4 to update the Linux version on GoG compared to steam that in the end I refunded it and bought on steam. Also proton is pretty nice to have.

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                                          Yeah, GoGo need to improve their Linux support since at the moment they seem to just "go along with it" without putting any effort into it

                                          That said, with stuff like Lutris (can only speak of that since I never used Heroic) which can use GoG's API to access your account and download games and has GoG-specific install scripts, it's also a reasonably seamless experience to game in Linux from GoG and none of it is tied to a proprietary vendor solution like Steam + Proton, so it's a lot more flexible and friendly for those who want to do their own tweaking - for example all my games in Lutris run sandboxed using firejail for extra security and blocking network access, but I can't do that for Steam.

                                          GoG is pretty much a totally open solution (you need not use their API and can just download an offline installer and install it however you see fit) whilst Steam is tracking and controlling your installs and in some cases game playing, so that means gaming with Steam is much more tightly coupled to both their code and their servers and thus Steam is always going to be more ill-fitted to the traditional hacker ethos in Linux that GoG.

                                          Finally, keep in mind that Steam's enhanced Linux support is just a natural consequence of their strategy of trying to protect themselves from any Microsoft funny business with Windows by creating their own Windows-independent ecosystem, with Linux being a natural shortcut to do so cheaply.

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