Skip to content
  • Categories
  • Recent
  • Tags
  • Popular
  • World
  • Users
  • Groups
Skins
  • Light
  • Cerulean
  • Cosmo
  • Flatly
  • Journal
  • Litera
  • Lumen
  • Lux
  • Materia
  • Minty
  • Morph
  • Pulse
  • Sandstone
  • Simplex
  • Sketchy
  • Spacelab
  • United
  • Yeti
  • Zephyr
  • Dark
  • Cyborg
  • Darkly
  • Quartz
  • Slate
  • Solar
  • Superhero
  • Vapor

  • Default (No Skin)
  • No Skin
Collapse
Brand Logo

agnos.is Forums

  1. Home
  2. Technology
  3. New Bill to Effectively Kill Anime & Other Piracy in the U.S. Gets Backing by Netflix, Disney & Sony

New Bill to Effectively Kill Anime & Other Piracy in the U.S. Gets Backing by Netflix, Disney & Sony

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Technology
148 Posts 94 Posters 314 Views
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • popekingjoe@lemmy.worldP [email protected]

    It's like Gabe said (paraphrased): "Piracy is a service problem, not a pricing problem."

    Make it easy to buy stuff and people will. But the more barriers you put up, the more people will pirate. Granted, there are persons like you (and I counted among those at one point) who cannot afford things from time-to-time, but we're a minority. Every game I've ever pirated from those days I have made sure to purchase once I was able to.

    Make it available for easy purchase and people will buy it.

    tregetour@lemdro.idT This user is from outside of this forum
    tregetour@lemdro.idT This user is from outside of this forum
    [email protected]
    wrote on last edited by
    #21

    Make it easy to buy stuff and people will.

    In case you haven't worked it out by now, the following advice may be of help:

    They're not gonna do that

    C 1 Reply Last reply
    0
    • chozo@fedia.ioC [email protected]

      It's crazy that Netflix originally knew this back in the 2010s. Somehow, over the years, they managed to forget this little nugget of wisdom.

      essence_of_meh@lemmy.worldE This user is from outside of this forum
      essence_of_meh@lemmy.worldE This user is from outside of this forum
      [email protected]
      wrote on last edited by
      #22

      They didn't forget, they simply became big enough they can act like every other corporation.

      1 Reply Last reply
      0
      • M [email protected]
        This post did not contain any content.
        D This user is from outside of this forum
        D This user is from outside of this forum
        [email protected]
        wrote on last edited by
        #23

        Good luck.

        C daggermoon@lemmy.worldD K 3 Replies Last reply
        0
        • mcasq_qsacj_234@lemmy.zipM [email protected]

          But wouldn't that go against freedom of expression and the internet?

          D This user is from outside of this forum
          D This user is from outside of this forum
          [email protected]
          wrote on last edited by
          #24

          The current administration is seemingly trying to kill the very concept of free speech and expression.

          1 Reply Last reply
          0
          • M [email protected]
            This post did not contain any content.
            I This user is from outside of this forum
            I This user is from outside of this forum
            [email protected]
            wrote on last edited by
            #25

            This is a huge deal.

            More people should be fighting this.

            Giving this much power to corporations isn't right.

            If all else, copyright owners of any media should have the same power so they can effective end AI from stealing their content.

            1 Reply Last reply
            0
            • L [email protected]

              It is impossible to ban piracy. The whole concept is that it's not legal to begin with.

              I bet Lars Ulrich is so proud that he killed music piracy back when he killed napster.

              Except wait.....no he didn't he killed A service. Meaning singular. The concept of piracy moved on. We got limewire and torrents.

              The ONLY thing that has slowed (if not stopped) music piracy is making the content readily and easily available in a convienent consumption method at a reasonable price.

              Shocking, I know.

              The invention of iTunes CHARGING money for music in a (at the time) new more convienent method of music consumption at a reasonable price did leaps and bounds more to destroy piracy than Napsters downfall ever could.

              Now if only video services would learn this lession. Because it's the same lession. I don't know how they missed the memo on this.

              Put your video in one centralized place. Make it hassle free to watch. Charge a reasonable price. Piracy dies overnight.

              And just to prove it, show of hands. Who here would go through the effort and risk of pirating, if Netflix had everything you wanted to watch, for $5 a month? Who here would say no, and still pirate? Reply below and tell me if you would still pirate with those conditions?

              But instead, netflix is pushing $20 a month, and the video hosting is fractured among multiple hosts, all of which overcharge, AND want to serve ads.

              Oh hey, right on cue. It's a skull and bones flag approaching.

              jabathekek@sopuli.xyzJ This user is from outside of this forum
              jabathekek@sopuli.xyzJ This user is from outside of this forum
              [email protected]
              wrote on last edited by
              #26

              I would pay for the sub, but still seed for my friends in poorer countries where $5 USD is a hell of a lot of money.

              1 Reply Last reply
              0
              • L [email protected]

                It is impossible to ban piracy. The whole concept is that it's not legal to begin with.

                I bet Lars Ulrich is so proud that he killed music piracy back when he killed napster.

                Except wait.....no he didn't he killed A service. Meaning singular. The concept of piracy moved on. We got limewire and torrents.

                The ONLY thing that has slowed (if not stopped) music piracy is making the content readily and easily available in a convienent consumption method at a reasonable price.

                Shocking, I know.

                The invention of iTunes CHARGING money for music in a (at the time) new more convienent method of music consumption at a reasonable price did leaps and bounds more to destroy piracy than Napsters downfall ever could.

                Now if only video services would learn this lession. Because it's the same lession. I don't know how they missed the memo on this.

                Put your video in one centralized place. Make it hassle free to watch. Charge a reasonable price. Piracy dies overnight.

                And just to prove it, show of hands. Who here would go through the effort and risk of pirating, if Netflix had everything you wanted to watch, for $5 a month? Who here would say no, and still pirate? Reply below and tell me if you would still pirate with those conditions?

                But instead, netflix is pushing $20 a month, and the video hosting is fractured among multiple hosts, all of which overcharge, AND want to serve ads.

                Oh hey, right on cue. It's a skull and bones flag approaching.

                I This user is from outside of this forum
                I This user is from outside of this forum
                [email protected]
                wrote on last edited by
                #27

                I would still pirate. I like to have the files instead of proprietary apps

                eyedust@sh.itjust.worksE F 2 Replies Last reply
                0
                • C [email protected]

                  Anyone offhandedly know how this would affect Usenet

                  S This user is from outside of this forum
                  S This user is from outside of this forum
                  [email protected]
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #28

                  I imagine it's possible but it sounds like they're going after low hanging fruit like streaming sites and it also states that they can't prevent people from using VPNs to get around the blocking.

                  1 Reply Last reply
                  0
                  • L [email protected]

                    It is impossible to ban piracy. The whole concept is that it's not legal to begin with.

                    I bet Lars Ulrich is so proud that he killed music piracy back when he killed napster.

                    Except wait.....no he didn't he killed A service. Meaning singular. The concept of piracy moved on. We got limewire and torrents.

                    The ONLY thing that has slowed (if not stopped) music piracy is making the content readily and easily available in a convienent consumption method at a reasonable price.

                    Shocking, I know.

                    The invention of iTunes CHARGING money for music in a (at the time) new more convienent method of music consumption at a reasonable price did leaps and bounds more to destroy piracy than Napsters downfall ever could.

                    Now if only video services would learn this lession. Because it's the same lession. I don't know how they missed the memo on this.

                    Put your video in one centralized place. Make it hassle free to watch. Charge a reasonable price. Piracy dies overnight.

                    And just to prove it, show of hands. Who here would go through the effort and risk of pirating, if Netflix had everything you wanted to watch, for $5 a month? Who here would say no, and still pirate? Reply below and tell me if you would still pirate with those conditions?

                    But instead, netflix is pushing $20 a month, and the video hosting is fractured among multiple hosts, all of which overcharge, AND want to serve ads.

                    Oh hey, right on cue. It's a skull and bones flag approaching.

                    _ This user is from outside of this forum
                    _ This user is from outside of this forum
                    [email protected]
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #29

                    Just a subscription that had most of the things and wasn’t a straight up abusive experience would be worth a hell of a lot more than $5. Too bad it will never happen.

                    kolanaki@pawb.socialK 1 Reply Last reply
                    0
                    • _ [email protected]

                      Just a subscription that had most of the things and wasn’t a straight up abusive experience would be worth a hell of a lot more than $5. Too bad it will never happen.

                      kolanaki@pawb.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
                      kolanaki@pawb.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
                      [email protected]
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #30

                      You mean it won't happen again.

                      1 Reply Last reply
                      0
                      • M [email protected]
                        This post did not contain any content.
                        S This user is from outside of this forum
                        S This user is from outside of this forum
                        [email protected]
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #31

                        Effectively kill anime 😀

                        Piracy ☹️

                        1 Reply Last reply
                        0
                        • M [email protected]
                          This post did not contain any content.
                          ratzchatsubo@lemm.eeR This user is from outside of this forum
                          ratzchatsubo@lemm.eeR This user is from outside of this forum
                          [email protected]
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #32

                          We only pirate because it's easier and cheaper. If you actually had a catch all service (like old Netflix) for a low price, people would stop. Oh wait, we had that but greed got in the way again.

                          suixi3d@fedia.ioS V M J G 6 Replies Last reply
                          0
                          • L [email protected]

                            It is impossible to ban piracy. The whole concept is that it's not legal to begin with.

                            I bet Lars Ulrich is so proud that he killed music piracy back when he killed napster.

                            Except wait.....no he didn't he killed A service. Meaning singular. The concept of piracy moved on. We got limewire and torrents.

                            The ONLY thing that has slowed (if not stopped) music piracy is making the content readily and easily available in a convienent consumption method at a reasonable price.

                            Shocking, I know.

                            The invention of iTunes CHARGING money for music in a (at the time) new more convienent method of music consumption at a reasonable price did leaps and bounds more to destroy piracy than Napsters downfall ever could.

                            Now if only video services would learn this lession. Because it's the same lession. I don't know how they missed the memo on this.

                            Put your video in one centralized place. Make it hassle free to watch. Charge a reasonable price. Piracy dies overnight.

                            And just to prove it, show of hands. Who here would go through the effort and risk of pirating, if Netflix had everything you wanted to watch, for $5 a month? Who here would say no, and still pirate? Reply below and tell me if you would still pirate with those conditions?

                            But instead, netflix is pushing $20 a month, and the video hosting is fractured among multiple hosts, all of which overcharge, AND want to serve ads.

                            Oh hey, right on cue. It's a skull and bones flag approaching.

                            D This user is from outside of this forum
                            D This user is from outside of this forum
                            [email protected]
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #33

                            Yep exactly.

                            They've pushed 6+ services now so it cost that cable used to so people are unsubbing and "cutting the cord" again

                            1 Reply Last reply
                            0
                            • M [email protected]
                              This post did not contain any content.
                              cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zoneC This user is from outside of this forum
                              cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zoneC This user is from outside of this forum
                              [email protected]
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #34

                              This is why you run servers outside of five eye countries

                              golden_zealot@lemmy.mlG 1 Reply Last reply
                              0
                              • D [email protected]

                                Good luck.

                                C This user is from outside of this forum
                                C This user is from outside of this forum
                                [email protected]
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #35

                                Sony decided to put rootkits on their CDs to stop people from ripping them. They got sued for that.

                                1 Reply Last reply
                                0
                                • ratzchatsubo@lemm.eeR [email protected]

                                  We only pirate because it's easier and cheaper. If you actually had a catch all service (like old Netflix) for a low price, people would stop. Oh wait, we had that but greed got in the way again.

                                  suixi3d@fedia.ioS This user is from outside of this forum
                                  suixi3d@fedia.ioS This user is from outside of this forum
                                  [email protected]
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #36

                                  They don’t care. They don’t want to innovate, they want to force you to pay them for nothing in return.

                                  O 1 Reply Last reply
                                  0
                                  • L [email protected]

                                    It is impossible to ban piracy. The whole concept is that it's not legal to begin with.

                                    I bet Lars Ulrich is so proud that he killed music piracy back when he killed napster.

                                    Except wait.....no he didn't he killed A service. Meaning singular. The concept of piracy moved on. We got limewire and torrents.

                                    The ONLY thing that has slowed (if not stopped) music piracy is making the content readily and easily available in a convienent consumption method at a reasonable price.

                                    Shocking, I know.

                                    The invention of iTunes CHARGING money for music in a (at the time) new more convienent method of music consumption at a reasonable price did leaps and bounds more to destroy piracy than Napsters downfall ever could.

                                    Now if only video services would learn this lession. Because it's the same lession. I don't know how they missed the memo on this.

                                    Put your video in one centralized place. Make it hassle free to watch. Charge a reasonable price. Piracy dies overnight.

                                    And just to prove it, show of hands. Who here would go through the effort and risk of pirating, if Netflix had everything you wanted to watch, for $5 a month? Who here would say no, and still pirate? Reply below and tell me if you would still pirate with those conditions?

                                    But instead, netflix is pushing $20 a month, and the video hosting is fractured among multiple hosts, all of which overcharge, AND want to serve ads.

                                    Oh hey, right on cue. It's a skull and bones flag approaching.

                                    F This user is from outside of this forum
                                    F This user is from outside of this forum
                                    [email protected]
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #37

                                    I gind it kind of ironic that if the streaming services were federated and your subscription applied proportionally to the services where you watched different shows this problem would solve itself

                                    1 Reply Last reply
                                    0
                                    • I [email protected]

                                      I would still pirate. I like to have the files instead of proprietary apps

                                      eyedust@sh.itjust.worksE This user is from outside of this forum
                                      eyedust@sh.itjust.worksE This user is from outside of this forum
                                      [email protected]
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #38

                                      Same tbh. I like having a hard data copy of the things I enjoy, and have pride in my offline music library, which has been neatly filed with all the proper metadata tagged on. Now I can boot up Audacious (Linux) or MusicBee (Windows) and pick the genre I'm feeling that day. Or I can go out for a walk with one of the iPods I've restored and leave my phone at home.

                                      1 Reply Last reply
                                      0
                                      • ratzchatsubo@lemm.eeR [email protected]

                                        We only pirate because it's easier and cheaper. If you actually had a catch all service (like old Netflix) for a low price, people would stop. Oh wait, we had that but greed got in the way again.

                                        V This user is from outside of this forum
                                        V This user is from outside of this forum
                                        [email protected]
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #39

                                        Just you wait till you see the arr stack (radarr, sonarr, lidarr, etc.)

                                        ratzchatsubo@lemm.eeR 1 Reply Last reply
                                        0
                                        • L [email protected]

                                          It is impossible to ban piracy. The whole concept is that it's not legal to begin with.

                                          I bet Lars Ulrich is so proud that he killed music piracy back when he killed napster.

                                          Except wait.....no he didn't he killed A service. Meaning singular. The concept of piracy moved on. We got limewire and torrents.

                                          The ONLY thing that has slowed (if not stopped) music piracy is making the content readily and easily available in a convienent consumption method at a reasonable price.

                                          Shocking, I know.

                                          The invention of iTunes CHARGING money for music in a (at the time) new more convienent method of music consumption at a reasonable price did leaps and bounds more to destroy piracy than Napsters downfall ever could.

                                          Now if only video services would learn this lession. Because it's the same lession. I don't know how they missed the memo on this.

                                          Put your video in one centralized place. Make it hassle free to watch. Charge a reasonable price. Piracy dies overnight.

                                          And just to prove it, show of hands. Who here would go through the effort and risk of pirating, if Netflix had everything you wanted to watch, for $5 a month? Who here would say no, and still pirate? Reply below and tell me if you would still pirate with those conditions?

                                          But instead, netflix is pushing $20 a month, and the video hosting is fractured among multiple hosts, all of which overcharge, AND want to serve ads.

                                          Oh hey, right on cue. It's a skull and bones flag approaching.

                                          Q This user is from outside of this forum
                                          Q This user is from outside of this forum
                                          [email protected]
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #40

                                          About 10 years ago, I signed up for a seedbox for torrenting purposes. USD 15/month, which was roughly the same as Netflix at the time. Since then, Netflix has repeatedly raised prices, dropped content, and added ads. On the other hand, I'm still paying $15/month for that seedbox, and they've upgraded my storage capacity and bandwidth allotment multiple times.

                                          1 Reply Last reply
                                          0
                                          Reply
                                          • Reply as topic
                                          Log in to reply
                                          • Oldest to Newest
                                          • Newest to Oldest
                                          • Most Votes


                                          • Login

                                          • Login or register to search.
                                          • First post
                                            Last post
                                          0
                                          • Categories
                                          • Recent
                                          • Tags
                                          • Popular
                                          • World
                                          • Users
                                          • Groups