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‘FuckLAPD.com’ Lets Anyone Use Facial Recognition to Instantly Identify Cops

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  • ulrich@feddit.orgU [email protected]

    The point I'm trying to make is that everyone is wearing a mask for the same reason: to prevent retribution for their beliefs and according actions.

    They don't "know what they're doing is wrong", they just know that other people think that and will target them for it, which is the exact same reason protestors wear them.

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    #105

    the government should always identify itself to the people

    the people should, by default, not be identified by the government

    the power imbalance is important: the government is a large and powerful entity which is meant to serve the people without prejudice. people are individually small, and only gain their power from being a large group. the government is given power by the people in order for it to perform tasks beneficial to all, and must be accountable to the people

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    • ulrich@feddit.orgU [email protected]

      it has none of the aspects that make a mass protest effective

      Oh please, do go on, what makes a protest effective? Nonsensical general destruction of your neighbors' property?

      Okay and?

      Okay and...that's bad?

      Not getting backlash because you did nothing isn't the flex you think it is.

      Getting the marines and national guard deployed on you isn't the flex you think it is.

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      Nonsensical general destruction of your neighbors' property?

      No, real obstruction of fascist activity. And, you know, turning out on a weekday. Mass protests work because, aside from the implicit threat of violence, they grind economic activity to a halt. That is simply not what happens when you parade for two hours on a Saturday.

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        Cameras. They fucking hate body cameras. When it clears them of wrongdoing, they have the video ready. When they 'accidentally' shoot a guy nine times in the back of the head, video seems to be missing.

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        I heard a bit on NPR over the weekend talking about copaganda. Turns out body cams are beneficial to cops, because they can take that footage and selectively edit and release it to push a certain narrative.

        If you've ever seen a clip on social media, it often starts a few seconds before the cop hits someone, rarely showing the full sequence of events that led up to that point.

        And if they can't edit the footage to make them look good? "Oops, we didn't retrieve that footage in time so it was overwritten."

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        • heythisisnttheymca@lemmy.worldH [email protected]

          oh good my phone is set up for that?

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          No. Most cameras have filters to cut non-visible light.

          And any EM that passes through a mask is probably going to pass through flesh too. And any EM that's transmitted and not reflected means it can't be imaged by a sensor.

          Very thin fabric, like a thin white T-shirt, can be transparent to IR in bright sunlight. But that's a fairly rare case.

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          • grysbok@lemmy.sdf.orgG [email protected]

            I'm a librarian. I also work with members of the public, some of whom do not share my understanding of reality. My information is still public because I'm a government employee.

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            Why would a librarians info need to be public? Does America require a public database of public servants?

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            • ulrich@feddit.orgU [email protected]

              They know what they're doing is wrong

              Is that why the protestors wear them too?

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              Please post the entirety of your online history.

              Surely there's no reason to hide.

              Whether what you've done is entirely legal (or not) authoritariaism doesn't care.

              What is done in a free society is punished by small men with anger control issues.

              What you may find reasonable to say in a free society, could, under a government opposed to free expression, land you in el Segundo - without your wallet.

              The gestapo hide their faces because they know what they do is wrong, and to hide from justice.

              People who protest or simply appreciate privacy do so because they understand the potential for retribution and being disappeared.

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                Please post the entirety of your online history.

                Surely there's no reason to hide.

                Whether what you've done is entirely legal (or not) authoritariaism doesn't care.

                What is done in a free society is punished by small men with anger control issues.

                What you may find reasonable to say in a free society, could, under a government opposed to free expression, land you in el Segundo - without your wallet.

                The gestapo hide their faces because they know what they do is wrong, and to hide from justice.

                People who protest or simply appreciate privacy do so because they understand the potential for retribution and being disappeared.

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                Please post the entirety of your online history. Surely there's no reason to hide.

                ...we're talking about hiding though

                Whether what you've done is entirely legal (or not) authoritariaism doesn't care.

                That goes both ways. That was my entire point.

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                  Nonsensical general destruction of your neighbors' property?

                  No, real obstruction of fascist activity. And, you know, turning out on a weekday. Mass protests work because, aside from the implicit threat of violence, they grind economic activity to a halt. That is simply not what happens when you parade for two hours on a Saturday.

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                  No, real obstruction of fascist activity.

                  You're using a bunch of general language. Why don't you want to say what makes a protest effective?

                  Mass protests work because, aside from the implicit threat of violence, they grind economic activity to a halt.

                  Good luck not getting fired.

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                    nice.

                    Is there one for ice too?

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                    #113

                    From the article https://icespy.org/

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                    • fizz@lemmy.nzF [email protected]

                      Why would a librarians info need to be public? Does America require a public database of public servants?

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                      #114

                      I think that's something they have, yeah. It's kind of unheard of to me. I can only imagine public servants like librarians or library assistants getting stalked, harassed, etc because their info is publicly available for anyone to access.

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                      • fizz@lemmy.nzF [email protected]

                        Why would a librarians info need to be public? Does America require a public database of public servants?

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                        #115

                        It's a public servants thing--the public wants to know what they're paying for, so public servant salary records are public.

                        Various websites compile this information from the various state and federal sources. It's wicked easy to find information on, say, every public servant with the title "librarian" in Fake County, Kentucky.

                        Knowing their full name, you can look up their home ownership records in the county real estate or tax databases and ta-da, you know where they live. You also know if they work part-time at a different public library, so that's convenient for stalking purposes.

                        Edit: not that I think it's a good thing. It's creepy as all get out. If we have to post salaries, I'd much rather they be anonymized like on Glassdoor.

                        Edit2: and these lists do get used for political ickiness. There's an anti-union group that mails out helpful tips on how to save money--leave your union. They even provide a "I want to leave" postcard addressed to your union leadership for you to sign, pre-filled-in with your info.

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                        • ulrich@feddit.orgU [email protected]

                          No, real obstruction of fascist activity.

                          You're using a bunch of general language. Why don't you want to say what makes a protest effective?

                          Mass protests work because, aside from the implicit threat of violence, they grind economic activity to a halt.

                          Good luck not getting fired.

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                          Why don't you want to say what makes a protest effective?

                          I can't find the article now, but I read one yesterday about LA protesters doing things like blocking ICE vehicles, towing them away and making noise outside their hotels so they can't sleep. They're actually confronting ICE and LAPD, draining away their energy and reducing the pace of arrests. Here's an example. Do this on a national scale and Trump's little Gestapo won't stand a chance.

                          Good luck not getting fired.

                          They can't fire everyone, but more importantly look up the events of Euromaidan, the various Arab spring revolutions and the recent Serbian (or was it Slovakian?) protests. It's impossible to overthrow authoritarianism without personal risk; that's just not how that works. You're free to choose the authoritarianism instead of the personal risk, but then you can't claim that you're resisting, because you're not; it's either or.

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                            I know for a fact

                            Do you remember why you "know" this? Just curious.

                            I would need a law showing that matching a face against publicly available datasets of faces is illegal as that seems insane and difficult to police.

                            Surely you have noticed that there is a lot of criticism of the GDPR and EU tech regulation.

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                            Commercial versions of these systems exist in the UK.

                            https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/jun/06/shopper-facewatch-watchlist-39p-paracetamol-london

                            The Gdpr makes these things harder to do, but not automatically illegal.

                            Surely you have noticed that there is a lot of criticism of the GDPR and EU tech regulation.

                            Yeah, and some of it is even true.

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                            • sinthesis@lemmy.todayS [email protected]

                              From the article https://icespy.org/

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                              #118

                              I took a selfie and it told me I was an ice agent.... Wtf I'm such a piece of shit

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                                I know for a fact

                                Do you remember why you "know" this? Just curious.

                                I would need a law showing that matching a face against publicly available datasets of faces is illegal as that seems insane and difficult to police.

                                Surely you have noticed that there is a lot of criticism of the GDPR and EU tech regulation.

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                                I know that because I do a lot of street photography and there is no law in the UK forbidding photography of people in public spaces, it’s quite easy for you to Google this but I can’t provide you with a law condoning it as that’s not how it works.

                                Again show me in GDPR where it expressly forbids marching a face to a public dataset.

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                                  Why don't you want to say what makes a protest effective?

                                  I can't find the article now, but I read one yesterday about LA protesters doing things like blocking ICE vehicles, towing them away and making noise outside their hotels so they can't sleep. They're actually confronting ICE and LAPD, draining away their energy and reducing the pace of arrests. Here's an example. Do this on a national scale and Trump's little Gestapo won't stand a chance.

                                  Good luck not getting fired.

                                  They can't fire everyone, but more importantly look up the events of Euromaidan, the various Arab spring revolutions and the recent Serbian (or was it Slovakian?) protests. It's impossible to overthrow authoritarianism without personal risk; that's just not how that works. You're free to choose the authoritarianism instead of the personal risk, but then you can't claim that you're resisting, because you're not; it's either or.

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                                  You're free to choose the authoritarianism instead of the personal risk, but then you can't claim that you're resisting, because you're not; it's either or.

                                  There's "personal risk" and then there's losing your livelihood.

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                                    cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/31924287

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                                    These guys still really like their tonfas, don't they?

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                                    • K [email protected]

                                      I believe having lack of evidence being the evidence for a crime is problematic, but it sure is evidence enough that they aren't fit for their job and they should immediately lose it. Everyone Including the supervisor who failed to run the team properly.

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                                      Should be at least streamed to a server not controlled by the police, including things like charge levels so they can't claim "oh whoops, it ran out of charge!". A specific organisation within the judiciary, perhaps?

                                      This way they're gonna need to get far more creative in concealing video.

                                      And if you're found to do something that is concealing evidence, well that's a crime by itself

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                                      • K [email protected]

                                        I believe having lack of evidence being the evidence for a crime is problematic, but it sure is evidence enough that they aren't fit for their job and they should immediately lose it. Everyone Including the supervisor who failed to run the team properly.

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                                        first of all it's not lack of evidence, it is evidence itself. if the camera is not working that's tampering with evidence and is a good indication of guilt.

                                        second of all if you can have laws like felony murder you can sure as shit have this. if you commit a felony (like a robbery), don't hurt anyone, and a cop murders a random person in response because they're trigger happy pigs, you can be held responsible for the murder as if you committed it yourself.

                                        my suggestion is far more reasonable compared to that: if you kill someone you better have evidence that it wasn't foul play, because guess what, that's what everyone needs to do. we don't just allow people to kill and go free, and cops shouldn't be exempt.

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                                          cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/31924287

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                                          This is nice. Use their own weapons against these fuckers.

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