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After 40 years of being free Microsoft has added a paywall to Notepad

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  • T [email protected]

    How much shit are people going to endure before realizing Windows isn't for them any more?

    Dump the damn thing and use Linux. Yes, Linux is friendly, easy to use, you can play most games, you don't need your proprietary programs because there are Free alternatives that are just as good that might take you a moment to adjust to (don't cry about how it's different, that's Baby Duck Syndrome), and so on.

    And Microsoft facilitates fascism and government spyware and all sorts of evil crap. So does Apple. And Google. Throw away your phone, use Linux on your PCs, free yourself.

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    #146

    Linux is as messy and more as the apartment where I live (really bad).

    If you want the operating system to make sense, use OpenBSD (no Wine, no Linux emulation, thus only native games) or NetBSD (there is Wine and Linux emulation, but limited) or FreeBSD (generally can do the same as Linux), but all three port graphics drivers from Linux with significant lag, and hardware support is worse in general.

    And Microsoft facilitates fascism

    There's a lot of Linux in systems that governments and militaries use.

    Throw away your phone,

    Yes, right. Also change job so that an Android device for 2FA weren't a requirement. And get used that I can't communicate with someone over TG/WA/VK in transport.

    And still be surveilled, because the information you give about yourself without an Android phone is sufficient, carrying one is a symbolic decapitation of your privacy and dignity, "symbolic" is the word.

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    • T [email protected]

      How much shit are people going to endure before realizing Windows isn't for them any more?

      Dump the damn thing and use Linux. Yes, Linux is friendly, easy to use, you can play most games, you don't need your proprietary programs because there are Free alternatives that are just as good that might take you a moment to adjust to (don't cry about how it's different, that's Baby Duck Syndrome), and so on.

      And Microsoft facilitates fascism and government spyware and all sorts of evil crap. So does Apple. And Google. Throw away your phone, use Linux on your PCs, free yourself.

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      #147

      Crying about it being different isn’t baby duck syndrome; saying it’s better/worse compared to what you’re used to is.

      People just don’t want to spend hundreds of hours re-learning things that already work for them.
      It is objectively easier to stick with something you know than to learn something new, so that’s what most non-technical users do.

      Pretty much everyone in IT should learn linux at some point though.

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      • spacecowboy@lemmy.caS [email protected]

        It's so stupid that they're making these additions to notepad. There is a need to have a basic text editor on an OS that isn't going to try to "help" by giving recommendations, automatically backs up files or whatever other shit they're trying to jam into it.

        They had wordpad and if they wanted to add additional features into that, that's completely fine. There are use cases for something that does a bit more than a simple text editor like notepad can do.

        My guess is that they tracked that people used notepad more often than wordpad so they removed wordpad. Then started making notepad more like wordpad without considering why people used notepad more frequently.

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        #148

        It is batshit crazy. Notepad was never meant to be what they are making it into. Not even WordPad should have AI nonsense. It's just not for that.

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        • E [email protected]

          I want a clean, advanced, well designed desktop and Im okay with redoing my work flow

          Use Gnome

          Gnome is cool but can it be slightly more Windows?

          Use Cosmic (PopOS)

          I want lots of customization, advanced features, and a traditional windows desktop metaphor

          Use KDE

          I want Windows and don't really care about customization

          Use Cinnamon

          Dude the Windows 9x look was fucking dope

          Use Mate

          Im installing this on a potato

          Use XFCE

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          Just try out multiple desktops in a live environment and see what you like before you commit. In fact, I recommend people to use a linux live session for several weeks or months before switching, just to get used to it.

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          • M [email protected]

            Yeah, Gnome is like the Apple of the Linux world. The devs have the same kind of “we know better than you do” mentality towards design. The issue tracker is a lot of “hey the OS won’t let me do [edge-case scenario that an OS should be able to do, but which most users won’t bother with]” followed by the devs going “Gnome isn’t designed to support [edge-case scenario]. Bug report closed.” Like the devs have a very “it’s not a bug; It’s a feature” mentality, and anyone who runs into that bug must be using the OS “wrong”.

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            we know better than you do” mentality towards design

            And I agree with them. I think people should pick whatever desktop environment needs the least amount of customization for their needs. Keep it simple. If Gnome works out of the box, use it. If KDE works out of the box, use it.

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            • P [email protected]

              Crying about it being different isn’t baby duck syndrome; saying it’s better/worse compared to what you’re used to is.

              People just don’t want to spend hundreds of hours re-learning things that already work for them.
              It is objectively easier to stick with something you know than to learn something new, so that’s what most non-technical users do.

              Pretty much everyone in IT should learn linux at some point though.

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              If you are in IT I'd hope you know some version of Unix. Consumers I wouldn't expect them to know, they just want it to work and don't care about configurations and how it works.

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              • E [email protected]

                It is batshit crazy. Notepad was never meant to be what they are making it into. Not even WordPad should have AI nonsense. It's just not for that.

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                Sure but with Wordpad I wouldn't much care if they spam it up with this kind of crap. It's something that doesn't have much use now, because there's notepad for basic text files and Word or Libre Office for actual word processing. So if someone wanted something to type up some notes that get automatic backups, and have AI recommendations (not that it would be me, but who knows?) just put it on there so we still have a simple text editor that's installed by default.

                If they're going to enshittify something at least don't enshittify the basic tools of the OS.

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                • A [email protected]

                  This is misinformation. They added the login requirement for their Generative AI and the actual notepad doesn't require a login. But I guess we're ragebaiting today.

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                  #153

                  Upvoted for visibility.

                  I recommend Notepad++.

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                  • remembertheapollo_@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

                    Upvoted for visibility.

                    I recommend Notepad++.

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                    #154

                    I use Kate on the windows work pc

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                    • remembertheapollo_@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

                      Upvoted for visibility.

                      I recommend Notepad++.

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                      I use Kate on the windows work pc

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                        So, turns out that they final push that convinced me to start learning Linux is the ol' Text Document.txt of all things. Swear to God, I thought that it would be the automatic updates nuking my unsaved work (again), but here we are...

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                        • L [email protected]

                          Is the Genevieve AI enabled by default?

                          After opening the notepad app does it ask you for that login?

                          Is your access to notepad restricted by the login?

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                          "But it turns out that, while this screenshot is indeed real, those eagle-eyed enough should already be able to tell that something isn't quite lining up here. In fact, nearly any Windows 11 user could open up the fully updated Notepad without getting this pop-up at all, even if they aren't already signed into a Microsoft account. So, what's the deal here?"

                          "The key is in the exact wording, identifiable within the first sentence: "Sign in with your Microsoft account to use Rewrite and its features in Notepad." This is a prompt that exists, yes, but one that's exclusive to Copilot+ PCs and explicitly requires the user to trigger it by clicking the Rewrite button, as confirmed by our own testing."

                          https://www.tomshardware.com/software/windows/no-notepad-for-windows-11-doesnt-require-you-to-use-a-microsoft-account-unless-youre-trying-to-use-ai

                          https://www.techradar.com/computing/windows/seen-those-complaints-online-about-having-to-sign-in-to-your-microsoft-account-to-use-windows-11s-notepad-app-its-all-a-load-of-hot-air

                          Please read the article. No. My access to notepad is not restricted. I also don't run any copilot features of any kind on windows 11. Yes, I believe Generative AI Copilot is enabled by default, but in this case the only time you get promoted to login is when you use a feature in notepad that directly needs copilot in order to work and you the user have to select that feature. Meaning you can use notepad without it entirely and never even see this prompt at all.

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                          • T [email protected]

                            Not our fault you won't listen to common sense and reason. Enjoy your bloated fascist spyware just because you think Linux users are creepy or whatever the fuck you think.

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                            Great example of what I’m talking about

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                              I use Kate on the windows work pc

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                              I love Kate, but I've only been using it since last August. Been using npp for a decade before that, even as my IDE, and I felt like it was stronger than Kate.

                              Kate has a lot of features that are not well documented or that you have to tape together to make something functional, while npp just works out of the box or with one of its many addons. Additionally the Kate documentation website is atrocious, lacking even basic search functionality. I had to join their IRC channel to get help figuring out something (path to some obscure config file that the latest version actually reads from), and while they were most helpful, I really shouldn't have had to go through all that trouble.

                              Maybe my approach to trying to solve a problem was wrong, coming from Windows + npp.

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                                Notepad++ FTW

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                                  Microsoft what the fuck are you doing.

                                  You fucking idiot's.

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                                    Finally, I can proudly proclaim that I'm no longer bound Microsoft's bullshit. Been a rocky start, but I've been happily using Kubuntu on my Surface for a while now, and it's going awesome

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                                      My understanding of the different operating systems

                                      MacOS: One time hardware payment for their service (plus for every other device)

                                      Linux: Free as in price free and freedom

                                      Windows: 30+ subscriptions to edit 1 file, then cooldown till next day or upgrade subscriptions to enterpise version for a kidney/per user/per month.

                                      ::: spoiler Title
                                      ChomeOS: Communism for the children, supported by the Education System
                                      :::

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                                      • E [email protected]

                                        we know better than you do” mentality towards design

                                        And I agree with them. I think people should pick whatever desktop environment needs the least amount of customization for their needs. Keep it simple. If Gnome works out of the box, use it. If KDE works out of the box, use it.

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                                        This is Gnomes biggest advantage to be honest. They have a singular vision of how they want their product to work and they aren't concerned with edge uses.

                                        I enjoy elements of so many DEs but I keep coming back to gnome because it's just so well executed over the others.

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                                          I love Kate, but I've only been using it since last August. Been using npp for a decade before that, even as my IDE, and I felt like it was stronger than Kate.

                                          Kate has a lot of features that are not well documented or that you have to tape together to make something functional, while npp just works out of the box or with one of its many addons. Additionally the Kate documentation website is atrocious, lacking even basic search functionality. I had to join their IRC channel to get help figuring out something (path to some obscure config file that the latest version actually reads from), and while they were most helpful, I really shouldn't have had to go through all that trouble.

                                          Maybe my approach to trying to solve a problem was wrong, coming from Windows + npp.

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                                          Maybe I'll give npp a test again. But I've been using kate because I've been using it on my linux system and found out I can install it at work on windows as well

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