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After 40 years of being free Microsoft has added a paywall to Notepad

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    personally i find kate struggles with large files. KWrite is a better analog to notepad IMO

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      Sublime text ftw

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      Notepad++ on windows is kind of the GOAT IMO.

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        Out if curiosity, which ones? Because I don't see any of those features and am on W11...

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        On my W11 work machine I got dark mode, saving unsaved drafts and tabs

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          So... who wants to bet that the new version of Notepad is not constantly scraping anything you type into it and feeding it into the AI, regardless of whether you're paying for this feature or not?

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          Tbf, they already control the os itself. They already have access to all of the keystrokes. Implementing it just in notepad feels like a rube goldbergy way of scraping user data.

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            Is it though? I still always open notepad for random text stuff. What is better in ++?

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            the only thing I need it for is to select text vertically (by holding left alt). there are a few similar ones for linux but some crash and the rest don't have a dark theme, so I still use it with wine.

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              • Keeps your progress if you exit without saving
              • Supports tabs so you don't have 5 separate notepad windows open
              • syntax highlighting for programming languages and markdown format
              • plugin support
              • can handle extremely large text files (I've opened 50gb text files and used ctrl+f to find terms and it worked fine)
              • superb tools for manipulating text (e.g., use reg expressions). Super easy to make mass edits.
              • dark mode support. That alone makes it superior lol
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              #47

              Your first two points are part of Notepad now too. Everything else you've said is true though, including the find and replace function supporting regex. It's amazingly powerful for editing.

              It also supports line numbering, which seems like a small thing but is really helpful.

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                So it is better because it can do more, but I assume not too too much? Because then we can also use word?

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                They have different use cases. Notepad++ is for manipulating text, strings, and code. It's got very powerful tools for it.

                Word is for making things look pretty. You can change typefaces, fonts, size. You can add pictures and diagrams and arrange them on the page.

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                  Sublime text ftw

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                  I like how sublime looks. But it is absolutely ridiculous that is has no settings UI and expects you to go and manually edit a json file to change even basic settings. Insane. So that's a no from me.

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                    the only thing I need it for is to select text vertically (by holding left alt). there are a few similar ones for linux but some crash and the rest don't have a dark theme, so I still use it with wine.

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                    Holy moly, that works? I needed precisely that feature earlier! Nice.

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                      I think the idea is that you can use it for reformatting small sets of data I guess.

                      "make all the dates in this CSV iso-8601"

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                      Genuinely very useful, however I feel that can be achieved without a login and paid AI subscription.

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                        I like Kate as a program but man KDE need to change how some of their app names appear in Plasma.

                        A new user looking through their start menu and seeing "Kate" will have no idea it's a text editor/notepad. The same is true for multiple other programs.

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                          Notepad++ on windows is kind of the GOAT IMO.

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                          The search and replace UX is 10 years behind. The sole reason I use sublime text instead

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                            I like Kate as a program but man KDE need to change how some of their app names appear in Plasma.

                            A new user looking through their start menu and seeing "Kate" will have no idea it's a text editor/notepad. The same is true for multiple other programs.

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                            There is actually an option to do that iirc. You can have it show entry descriptions.

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                              I like Kate as a program but man KDE need to change how some of their app names appear in Plasma.

                              A new user looking through their start menu and seeing "Kate" will have no idea it's a text editor/notepad. The same is true for multiple other programs.

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                              What does "Excel" do? What does "Steam" do? What does "Balena" do? What does "Conky" do?

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                                The search and replace UX is 10 years behind. The sole reason I use sublime text instead

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                                Npp has normal, with special characters and regex, does sublime has something better there?

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                                  Npp has normal, with special characters and regex, does sublime has something better there?

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                                  They said UI, so I don't think they meant features. But honestly I've never been unhappy with their UI, aside from one day with multiple replaces across a few files where the autofill from clipboard kept deleting the expression I wanted to be in there as I navigated through what I needed to do.

                                  But that was fine, anyway, it got through it and I'm just happy with the "apply to all open documents" setting. Saved me at least an hour.

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                                    Npp has normal, with special characters and regex, does sublime has something better there?

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                                    The regex engine was not full featured last time I tried. Done know which implementation they use, but it was lacking basic features like end of line matching (if I remember correctly).

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                                        People at Microsoft doesn't understand what people use Notepad for.

                                        If they wanted to add AI features, they should have added it to WordPad, and make it more modern.

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                                          What does "Excel" do? What does "Steam" do? What does "Balena" do? What does "Conky" do?

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                                          I think programs that we think of as being part of the OS, such as the included text editor, is a very different thing to something like Steam.

                                          Steam isn't preinstalled on your PC, it's not a core part of your desktop OS. You download Steam yourself, and you only do it once you know what it is.

                                          Besides, even if that weren't the case, another dev doing it doesn't mean KDE should.

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