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New refugee from Windows / Need advices about image system backup, excel, vscode

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  • E [email protected]

    So by your definition going to the dentist is slavery?

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    I don't think anybody requires you to do so. you do that for your own health

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      I don't think anybody requires you to do so. you do that for your own health

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      And who is requiring you to use windows? Previously it was just societal expectations but apparently it's not that anymore. Who is cracking the whip to force you to use windows?

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        I haven't found anything that is quite like Macrium. Mostly, because something that works the same way is a bad idea on linux. Bausese no, as you suspect, and image backup cannot be done while the partition being inaged is live.

        Macrium creates restorable images of your entire boot partition, as-is, which can then be restored onto the same, or an entirely different, disk.

        This isn't really something you can do in linux, with a system that is live. Hence, partition images should be done offline, when the given partition isn't booted.

        That said, everything that matters can be backed up simply by copying the relevant files. For this, I use Kopia.

        As for making sure you always have a bootable system, for this I use Timeshift on btrfs.

        For MS office, you might try winapps. Sounds like what you're hoping for.

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        Regarding Timeshift on btrfs, is the idea that Timeshift makes it easier to backup to a different disk versus using Snapper?

        I'm also on btrfs and miss the wonders of Macrium Reflect. For now, in addition to Snapper, I've been using Clonezilla to make a disk image on occassion. I'm in the process of figuring out something like Vorta to replace that process.

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          Sounds like you've got a good handle on most of it. FWIW, here's how I deal with the same issues:

          For Windows apps I've found a virtual machine is the easiest solution. It's set it up to share folders between Linux and the Windows VM so moving things between OS's is easy. I've tried other methods like Wine, and for the Windows apps I need the VM works best by far.

          Did you mean Timeshift? (Time Machine is Apple software.) Timeshift works great for incremental backups so you should get it working, but in my case I also do full system backups every few weeks because setting up my systems from scratch is a PITA and really time consuming, especially for my server.

          For those full backups I've set up a bootable persistent live USB SSD with Ubuntu. The persistent SSD is fully configured with all software, including VNC, SSH and Clonezilla. Creating a backup requires plugging in the SSD, rebooting and running Clonezilla either locally or remotely. Clonezilla is also also preconfigured so it requires only a few steps to start the full backup. Full system backups take about 20-30 minutes to complete but my SSDs aren't that big.

          Enjoy your move to Linux. It's well worth the initial effort.

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          I do something similar but my live USB is just bootable Clonezilla. I'd like to hear more about why you use a live Ubuntu ssd.

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            Timeshift is great for getting your system back after a major fuckup. But i dont think it works as a backup solution that can be transplanted to other systems, but i never tried.

            I use Kup to backup my important stuff to a neat tarball that can be restored with the app or just by extracting its contents. It comes with a kcm that integrates into KDEs settings menu and can do automated timed backups. Its a wrapper for bup. It also does Incremental backups.

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            I've tried a few times to use Timeshift to restore to a new disk. Once it worked without any issue. This last time it did not and I suspect grub just needs to be rebuilt. I've read that it is always possible but Timeshift certainly doesn't make it easy in every case

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              RE: backups, I'd recommend altering your workflow. Instead of taking an image of a box, automate the creation of that box. Create a bash script that takes a base OS, and installs everything you use fresh. Then have it apply configuration files where appropriate, and lastly figure out which applications really need backup blobs to work properly (thunderbird, for example). Once you have that, your backups become just the data itself. Photos, documents, etc. Everything else is effectively ephemeral because it can be reproduced through automation.

              Takes a lot less space, is a lot more portable. And much better in scenarios where something in your OS is broken or you get a new computer and want to replicate your setup.

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              I'd also like to learn how to do this but it seems like a steep learning curve for a non-expert user. If you have any resources to share to learn this kung fu, please post

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                I do use rsync when backing up remote computers, locally I use dump/restore. I prefer it because of the ability to get a directory listing from the backup, pick and choose files or restore the entire file system as necessary.
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                This process sounds very flexible. Got a link about how to set this up?

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                  Regarding Timeshift on btrfs, is the idea that Timeshift makes it easier to backup to a different disk versus using Snapper?

                  I'm also on btrfs and miss the wonders of Macrium Reflect. For now, in addition to Snapper, I've been using Clonezilla to make a disk image on occassion. I'm in the process of figuring out something like Vorta to replace that process.

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                  I don't think there's any effective difference between timeshift and snapper. They're both essentially just GUIs for features supported by the underlying btrfs filesystem.

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                    I do something similar but my live USB is just bootable Clonezilla. I'd like to hear more about why you use a live Ubuntu ssd.

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                    I started with a Clonezilla USB a few years ago, but Ubuntu is more flexible and can be used for everything. The GUI is easier for some tasks, and Nautilus, Disk Usage Analyzer, Gparted, and other utilities are all available on the same SSD used for backups.

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                    • E [email protected]

                      And who is requiring you to use windows? Previously it was just societal expectations but apparently it's not that anymore. Who is cracking the whip to force you to use windows?

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                      Previously it was just societal expectations but apparently it's not that anymore.

                      since when is going to the dentist the only societal expectation? since when is that a societal expectation at all?

                      • education lot of places that force you to install spyware for the online exams
                      • banks that intentionally break their websites on "unsupported" systems
                      • workplaces where people work with computers, basically generally, becausre of ms office and supervision software
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