Fairphone announces the €599 Fairphone 6, with a 6.31" 120Hz LTPO OLED display, a Snapdragon 7s Gen 3 chip, and enhanced modularity with 12 swappable parts
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main camera, AI-powered low-light magic
Can I turn it off? Can I? I just want my photos, the real ones, however bad they are. I don’t want them to be half generated.
happy cake day!!
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Is it repairable only with a screwdriver and parts you can buy from the manufacturer?
wrote last edited by [email protected]That's a definite advantage of the Fairphone.
I guess, I will find out how mine fares when the need arises. Hasn't happened in 4.5 years yet.
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The single best thing for sustainability is long lifetime of the phone. Now that EU mandates it and Apple, Pixel and Samsung all offer 7 years of updates Fairphone's advantage here is slim. The rest are just vague promises. Apple also promises to support people and communities involved in its supply chain:
https://www.apple.com/supply-chain/
All the companies try to avoid sweatshops because it's terrible for PR but unless you are actually going to assemble the phone in EU you don't really know who made it. For me the difference between two phones made in China is not big enough to pay double.Sure, I just showed you the report, you may draw your own conclusions upon reading it. But in my opinion they've long proven to be transparent and actionable when it comes to improving the industry, e.g. by co-founding the Fair Cobalt Alliance. And maybe they even had something to do with those changes in legislation, the EU itself seems to recognise as much...
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I would say having a headphone jack is better than not having one, but stop short of crying conspiracy. You would feel better if they didn't sell BT earbuds?
wrote last edited by [email protected]I'm saying it is very hypocritical and goes against their brand. If they simply came out and said: Look guys making phones sustainably cost too much, we need to sell higher margin items like dongles, BT earbuds and cases to have enough cashflow to continue manufacturing and R&D.
Ok, fair enough. I would say.
But trying to justify and greenwashing the whole ordeal is insulting. The tactic is straight out of Apple's "Think different" book. Paying more for reduced functionality. Only for them to sell you more accessories for even more money.
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Interesting that they seem to be using a consumer grade Snapdragon chip this time, typically they used weird chips ment for industry applications if I'm not mistaken. Wonder what sparked the change, did Qualcomm start supporting their chips for longer?
Looks like it.
Starting with Android smartphones running on the Snapdragon 8 Elite Mobile Platform, Qualcomm Technologies now offers device manufacturers the ability to provide support for up to eight consecutive years of Android software and security updates. Smartphones launching on new Snapdragon 8 and 7-series mobile platforms will also be eligible to receive this extended support.
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That's a definite advantage of the Fairphone.
I guess, I will find out how mine fares when the need arises. Hasn't happened in 4.5 years yet.
Are you a Republican? Because that really sounds like "mine works, so fuck everyone else"
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In terms of fp4 replacement parts, I am only quoting a friend of mine, I haven't personally looked into that; though I was ready to believe it after my experience.
Then don’t spread information online that you don’t know to be true, Jesus Christ man.
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dang, I just bought FP5.
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Of course they're gonna offer BT earbuds if there's no audio jack? Or did you want them included or something? A lot of people here are way angrier than justified.
This is the vibe I’m getting from Lemmy lately just angry people shouting at clouds.
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They don't have Auto in Screen Refresh Rare but shouldn't it be there if they LTPO display?
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Then don’t spread information online that you don’t know to be true, Jesus Christ man.
It's true, my language suggests I had researched that and found it to be true. When the truth is I just trusted my friends recount. I'll edit my post.
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Interesting that they seem to be using a consumer grade Snapdragon chip this time, typically they used weird chips ment for industry applications if I'm not mistaken. Wonder what sparked the change, did Qualcomm start supporting their chips for longer?
They only used a weird chip for one generation (the last generation; 5)
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No.
Two identical replies from two different accounts at the same time makes me think I'm responding to a bot, tho.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Just unfortunate timing I would think lol
Great minds think alike I guess.
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It's true, my language suggests I had researched that and found it to be true. When the truth is I just trusted my friends recount. I'll edit my post.
I can’t ask anymore than someone to admit when they maybe didn’t take the right approach and I find that commendable. Thanks.
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Good, I only want to pay for the parts that don't send my data to Google and their partners.
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What about the simplicity?
I don't follow? If you mean simplicity in terms of ease of use you might as well use BT headphones as you don't have to worry about any wire management. Ease of use is the main reason BT headphones are the go to for most people. No carefully packing the wires so it won't break, no accidental wiring mess or anything wire related. You just turn them on (which for most in-ear ones just means taking them out of the case), stick them to your ear and you're good to go.
If you meant anything else by simplicity you need to expand that idea.
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I'd love one and have checked back each year after their first model, but they still don't sell to Australia - and I'm not going to buy something I can't get direct parts and services for, and would need to go through third parties for.
If their model is a successful business I honestly thought they would have expanded beyond shipping/supporting only Europe by now, its been a decade since their first model. Maybe they're still not a very big player / modest success?
There's at least two limitations that they've mentioned before with shipping outside of Europe.
First is they need extra certifications (e.g. FCC ones for selling to the USA), which are expensive and basically redundant. Probably not worth the business cost to do it and maintain it.
Second is they do carbon neutral shipping, which is hard to do when you have to cross an ocean. I know in Canada our national postal service can do carbon neutral for packages, but figuring that out for every country and the international legs of the shipping is a lot of work.
Part of the cost of being ethical is being at a disadvantage with capitalism, so while they're doing pretty alright they aren't going to grow like big tech did.
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I bet PostmarketOS will release for it
GraphineOS is more secure
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Let me expand, as I usually deal with surveys and population feedback. There's loud feedback, and there's statistically significant feedback.
People who want a headphone jack are very loud. They will interject this issue into every feedback opportunity given. They will mention it on the comment sections, forums, q&a sessions, answer their surveys accordingly, etc. That's all fine and their prerogative.
However, when you look at the statistics. They are unfortunately a very tiny minority of the entire population. They are not statistically significant for decision making. They don't have the volume to move sales significantly. This sucks, of course, and I personally wouldn't mind the return of headphone jacks, smaller phones and bigger batteries as a fair trade for thicker phones.
But unfortunately, the vast majority of the market is pre-occupied with other things. The phone screen is too small, the phone weights too much, the phone is too thick, I want to bring my phone to the pool without fear of it breaking, etc. They are not as passionate about it, not like the headphone people are, but they far outnumber them in several orders of magnitude. In the end, if the product doesn't sell, it won't matter how much it was worth to a single passionate person. It will sink the company if it doesn't have mass appeal. Making phones is already an extremely expensive endeavor.
wrote last edited by [email protected]People who want a headphone jack [...] are unfortunately a very tiny minority of the entire population.
People interested in paying more for fair trade materials and repairable phones are also a very tiny minority of the entire population.
Of course I don't have any statistic, but I would guess that the proportion of people wanting a Jack is significantly higher in the group of people interested in buying Fairphone that on the general population.In my particular case, I'm still using my Fairphone 3, and I'm not buying a Fairphone again unless it has a Jack.
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I dont understand Fairphone, flashy hardware with poor software security and awful sustainability (they stop selling parts quickly).
