Fairphone announces the €599 Fairphone 6, with a 6.31" 120Hz LTPO OLED display, a Snapdragon 7s Gen 3 chip, and enhanced modularity with 12 swappable parts
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All I needed to know was when they released their BT earbuds just when the jack port got removed to figure out where their priorities are.
They are easily repairable and you don't have to throw them away if the battery goes bad (just replace it).
How is that a bad thing? About 90% of other brands you can throw them away if the battery goes bad or they break.
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Exactly. Framework does it correctly; fairphone does not.
Not putting in a 3.5mm jack says enough. They sell Bluetooth earbuds I wouldn't call that "fair". It leads to more landfill. Phones with 3.5mm jacks also have BT, and don't start about USBC singles, that's more to buy and more landfill when they inevitable break.
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They are easily repairable and you don't have to throw them away if the battery goes bad (just replace it).
How is that a bad thing? About 90% of other brands you can throw them away if the battery goes bad or they break.
How is that a bad thing?
I have to buy them? Every replaceable and repairable stuff is manufactured and has an impact.
About 90% of other brands you can throw them away if the battery goes bad or they break.
I don't have any of those, for related reasons.
The best one can do is to consume less and less often.Buying a USB-C-2-Jack dongle or BT headset is anything but eco-friendly. It goes straight against the whole brand if you need to buy new stuff in addition to make it work.
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Just out of interest, because I too love the jack, then what are you buying in the future?
Motorola or whatever, depends what's available within budget at the time I need the phone.
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What about the internal connectors of the headphone jack?
What about em?
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FYI, you can disable the icons you don't want/need using (https://github.com/zacharee/Tweaker). Although that doesn't solve the actual problem...
i do want the icons, yeah.
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I would totally buy one of these if they were sold in the US. Sadly, last time I checked the newest phone wasn't sold here. So I doubt this one will be.
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Not putting in a 3.5mm jack says enough. They sell Bluetooth earbuds I wouldn't call that "fair". It leads to more landfill. Phones with 3.5mm jacks also have BT, and don't start about USBC singles, that's more to buy and more landfill when they inevitable break.
I hear you! Though I don't mind the lack of a 3.5 mm jack¹, it is still an anti-feature, and I fully agree that the TWS style of in-ears are antithetical to the repairability ethos. It's especially bad when they sell one themselves.
Until Linux phones reliably support 5G communications with major carriers (this is a kernel driver issue for modems), I'm going to run with my current phone until it crumbles... Or at least until someone comes out with an actual modular phone where the mainboard can just be swapped as with desktops and Framework laptops.
¹I use a very high quality "dongle" DAC (Moonriver 2) and it gives me a cleaner, lower impedance, higher power output than any phone's on-board audio can. If I'm going to be using wired headphones, might as well go all the way.
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Why does The Fairphone (Gen. 6) not have an audio jack?
After some of the criticism that we received about removing the headphone jack from Fairphone 4, we did consider bringing it back for The Fairphone (Gen. 6). However, we realized it would be at the expense of increasing the phone’s dimensions. We also looked into the consumer data and Fairphone 4’s weight and thickness were more of an issue than the lack of a minijack, so we decided to keep the same approach, although it was a difficult decision. We didn’t want to invest in OLED technology for the display and then not have improved the phone’s dimensions and weight. But just like with Fairphone 4 and Fairphone 5, we will still offer an adapter, which has had overall positive user reviews.
"We heard the criticism but decided that no, you would still need an adapter to use headphones, plus a USB-C hub to be able to charge the damn thing while listening to music or watching videos"
Funny how that's the same excuses that we get for modern laptops terrible design. "We HAVE to make it thinner so there's no space! You wouldn't want a laptop that's not complete shit if it meant it'd also be less thin and breakable, now would you?"
wrote last edited by [email protected]Okay, I'm going to ask... why don't you use wireless?
Edit: some results are in, and the only reasonable answer is better audio quality, although that's probably no longer true. The rest are fairly weak reasons.
Lol'd at the 10m extension cord though, thanks for that one.
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I wish we could get this in Canada
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For the amount of space a earphone jack takes it really doesn't make sense for them to include it, when you can just use a cheap adaptor cable
"For the amount of space it takes to include a second speaker or second camera it doesn't really make sense when you can just plug in an external one"
You sound like an idiot.
I can buy a phone from HMD that's more repairable, more modular, and has sustainable features.
Fairphone has been a busted flush since they ditched the headphone jack. It's just the most obvious sign amongst many they started making landfill phones.
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I really respect Fairphone and I'm a happy owner of the Fairphone 5, but I find a bit puzzling for a company that suggests its customer should keep their phone for more than the 2.5 years average to release a new model just 2 years after the previous one.
Just my two cents, but they shoul've focused on developing either a tablet or a smartwatch to fill a gap in other markets before announcing yet another smartphone.
wrote last edited by [email protected]I keep reading this complaint every time FairPhone releases a new model, and it's nonsense. The millions of people who didn't buy a FairPhone 5 in the last 2 years are not going to buy a 2 year old model when they need a new phone in 2 months.
You bought a FairPhone 5 or 4 in the last 4 years? Keep it and don't buy a FairPhone 6, you don't need it.
You didn't buy a FairPhone and your current phone is dying? Then you have a modern FairPhone and don't need to decide between a FairPhone with old specs or an up-to-date phone that is not repairable.
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Use Calyx OS and re-lock the bootloader.
they stop selling parts quickly
The new EU regulations should force them to keep parts available.
If they were serious about security they would partner with the GraphineOS team
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I would totally buy one of these if they were sold in the US. Sadly, last time I checked the newest phone wasn't sold here. So I doubt this one will be.
you can get them in the US.
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Idk man. you think the folks who killed themselves can put a review on a corporate shill website that's been known to remove reviews for the right price?
Why TCL didn't pay them to also remove bad reviews?
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Okay, I'm going to ask... why don't you use wireless?
Edit: some results are in, and the only reasonable answer is better audio quality, although that's probably no longer true. The rest are fairly weak reasons.
Lol'd at the 10m extension cord though, thanks for that one.
wireless headphones run out of battery, and most seem to have atrocious build quality and battery life.
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I bet PostmarketOS will release for it
Why do you think so? We still don't have proper support for the Fairphone 4 on pmOS, why'd the 6 be any better?
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Why TCL didn't pay them to also remove bad reviews?
TCL doesn't give a shit because they don't have such a shit working environment that people literally commit suicide to get out of it.
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Sure, I just showed you the report, you may draw your own conclusions upon reading it. But in my opinion they've long proven to be transparent and actionable when it comes to improving the industry, e.g. by co-founding the Fair Cobalt Alliance. And maybe they even had something to do with those changes in legislation, the EU itself seems to recognise as much...
Probably. I'm not saying that Frairphone is bad and that what they are doing doesn't have any value. What I'm saying is that their phones were always too expensive for me and now that there are other phones with 7-8 year lifespan on the market it's even harder to justify the expense. I'm glad that enough people had the money to support Fairphone and I'm grateful for their contribution in changing the legislation. Maybe in 5-6 years, when I have to change my phone, I will get a Fairphone.
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People who want a headphone jack [...] are unfortunately a very tiny minority of the entire population.
People interested in paying more for fair trade materials and repairable phones are also a very tiny minority of the entire population.
Of course I don't have any statistic, but I would guess that the proportion of people wanting a Jack is significantly higher in the group of people interested in buying Fairphone that on the general population.In my particular case, I'm still using my Fairphone 3, and I'm not buying a Fairphone again unless it has a Jack.
Have a look at their impact report. They themselves claim that they don't spend more than €5 per phone on fair trade or environmental stuff.
You are only paying more for that phone because they are a tiny boutique manufacturer who has to outsource everything. The fair/eco stuff is just fair- and greenwashing.
If you buy a phone because you want to look fair/eco, buy a Fairphone. If you actually really care for fair/eco, get an used phone and donate some money to the correct NGOs or charities.
