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  3. Fairphone announces the €599 Fairphone 6, with a 6.31" 120Hz LTPO OLED display, a Snapdragon 7s Gen 3 chip, and enhanced modularity with 12 swappable parts

Fairphone announces the €599 Fairphone 6, with a 6.31" 120Hz LTPO OLED display, a Snapdragon 7s Gen 3 chip, and enhanced modularity with 12 swappable parts

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  • D [email protected]

    Okay, I'm going to ask... why don't you use wireless?

    Edit: some results are in, and the only reasonable answer is better audio quality, although that's probably no longer true. The rest are fairly weak reasons.

    Lol'd at the 10m extension cord though, thanks for that one.

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    wireless headphones run out of battery, and most seem to have atrocious build quality and battery life.

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    • S [email protected]

      I bet PostmarketOS will release for it

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      Why do you think so? We still don't have proper support for the Fairphone 4 on pmOS, why'd the 6 be any better?

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        Why TCL didn't pay them to also remove bad reviews?

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        TCL doesn't give a shit because they don't have such a shit working environment that people literally commit suicide to get out of it.

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        • L [email protected]

          Sure, I just showed you the report, you may draw your own conclusions upon reading it. But in my opinion they've long proven to be transparent and actionable when it comes to improving the industry, e.g. by co-founding the Fair Cobalt Alliance. And maybe they even had something to do with those changes in legislation, the EU itself seems to recognise as much...

          "Fairphone has made a tangible impact by improving working conditions for miners and factory workers, increasing the use of fair-trade and recycled materials, and extending product lifespans to combat e-waste. Its advocacy has influenced industry giants and policymakers to adopt fairer, more sustainable practices."

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          Probably. I'm not saying that Frairphone is bad and that what they are doing doesn't have any value. What I'm saying is that their phones were always too expensive for me and now that there are other phones with 7-8 year lifespan on the market it's even harder to justify the expense. I'm glad that enough people had the money to support Fairphone and I'm grateful for their contribution in changing the legislation. Maybe in 5-6 years, when I have to change my phone, I will get a Fairphone.

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          • X [email protected]

            People who want a headphone jack [...] are unfortunately a very tiny minority of the entire population.

            People interested in paying more for fair trade materials and repairable phones are also a very tiny minority of the entire population.
            Of course I don't have any statistic, but I would guess that the proportion of people wanting a Jack is significantly higher in the group of people interested in buying Fairphone that on the general population.

            In my particular case, I'm still using my Fairphone 3, and I'm not buying a Fairphone again unless it has a Jack.

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            Have a look at their impact report. They themselves claim that they don't spend more than €5 per phone on fair trade or environmental stuff.

            You are only paying more for that phone because they are a tiny boutique manufacturer who has to outsource everything. The fair/eco stuff is just fair- and greenwashing.

            If you buy a phone because you want to look fair/eco, buy a Fairphone. If you actually really care for fair/eco, get an used phone and donate some money to the correct NGOs or charities.

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              This is nice for Europe I guess, and I want to like the fairphone, but unfortunately it's not viable for me.

              Besides basic phone features and the ability to run Android apps I have 3 requirements, 2 of which the fairphone fails at. I need it to be usable in the US on my phone carrier. I need to be able to use Google Pay or another mobile payment alternative (that's accepted in most stores). Finally it needs to have at least a 48 hour battery life.

              Fairphone unfortunately doesn't work in the US with most carriers, and the one that kills not only it but all the de-googled phones, it doesn't support mobile payment of any kind. I've done a ton of research trying to find some kind of fix for that second point because I'd gladly use something like GrapheneOS if I could, but every time the answer I come to is it's just not possible.

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              Don't worry, it fails in Europe too. I ended up giving away my FP4, because it fails to do even basic stuff like make a call after 3G was switched off in my country.

              Worst phone I ever had, with quite a margin. And the only one I ever kept for under 2 years and the only one I replaced while it was still physically ok.

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                For the amount of space a earphone jack takes it really doesn't make sense for them to include it, when you can just use a cheap adaptor cable

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                just make the phone larger and fill the empty space with battery

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                • S [email protected]

                  I would totally buy one of these if they were sold in the US. Sadly, last time I checked the newest phone wasn't sold here. So I doubt this one will be.

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                  I just want them to be smaller.

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                  • W [email protected]

                    If they didn't buy a previous fairphone, you're going to miss all the people who wanted to try it but didn't want a 5 year old phone tech. I imagine most people replace around 3-5 years due to battery degradation, people dropping their phones, or lack of updates

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                    When you drop your Fairphone, you can easily repair it.
                    Still on my FP4, no need to change, really. Only updated the battery once.

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                    • jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.worksJ [email protected]

                      wireless headphones run out of battery, and most seem to have atrocious build quality and battery life.

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                      The battery? Mine last at least 8 hours and charge in two.

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                        What about em?

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                        I’m assuming they are removing the headphone jack cause the internal components take up too much space. I can’t imagine these companies removing the jacks cause they cost too much money.

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                          People who want a headphone jack [...] are unfortunately a very tiny minority of the entire population.

                          People interested in paying more for fair trade materials and repairable phones are also a very tiny minority of the entire population.
                          Of course I don't have any statistic, but I would guess that the proportion of people wanting a Jack is significantly higher in the group of people interested in buying Fairphone that on the general population.

                          In my particular case, I'm still using my Fairphone 3, and I'm not buying a Fairphone again unless it has a Jack.

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                          I don’t have any statistic, but I would guess that the proportion of people wanting a Jack is significantly higher in the group of people interested in buying Fairphone that on the general population.

                          Fairphone literally does have that statistic. They spent effort to gather that info in order to inform their business decisions. And they report:

                          We also looked into the consumer data and Fairphone 4’s weight and thickness were more of an issue than the lack of a minijack

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                          • D [email protected]

                            Probably not a popular thing to say on here, but I think you’ve lost the battle for the earphone jack. It probably just requires way too much real estate to be practical on a modern day cell phone.

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                            Exactly this, that's a lot of space taken up to connect what 4 analog wires?

                            That's insanity when a AUX to Usb-C converter does the job

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                              dang, I just bought FP5.

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                              It's not a single bit worse than before the announcement.

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                              • electrolisa@lemmy.blahaj.zoneE [email protected]

                                Degoogled version is €50 more, for whatever reason

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                                Because the built in software is usually there because the manufacturer is receiving money from the software company. That's why consumer devices are always bloated with garbage.

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                                  "For the amount of space it takes to include a second speaker or second camera it doesn't really make sense when you can just plug in an external one"

                                  You sound like an idiot.

                                  I can buy a phone from HMD that's more repairable, more modular, and has sustainable features.

                                  Fairphone has been a busted flush since they ditched the headphone jack. It's just the most obvious sign amongst many they started making landfill phones.

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                                  Resorting to insults really?

                                  3.5mm Aux takes up a shit load of space to connect 4 analog wires. If a phone has Aux it should at the very least be 2.5mm.

                                  It makes no sense to me why you can't just use an adapter.

                                  More battery > Redundant analog cable most people don't use anyway.

                                  I might be a idiot as you say, but the people at Fairphone don't seem to be because they ditched AUX as they should have

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                                  • P [email protected]

                                    Yeah, the wireless charging is a no-go for me as well.
                                    I understand that it costs licensing and wastes energy.
                                    But the environmental impact of all the useless/lost cables is also a point,especially when you get your energy fully renewable/self produced.
                                    And in a lot of areas (airline lounges,etc.) it has become widely adopted/the norm.

                                    They could easily have offered a "swap" battery that has a little less capacity but includes wireless charging - give people a fucking choice.

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                                    It's also less waste if one of your charging methods breaks, as you can just swap over to the other method and might even find ordering replacement parts unnecessary.

                                    Though ideally I'd also like to see more than one USB-C port for even more redundancy.

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                                      I love the idea but the price is too high for the chip given that this is designed to be a longevity phone. A chip like the 7s Gen 3 would make the phone sluggish after a couple of years with how unoptimised todays apps are.

                                      The Gorilla Glass 7i and IP55 water resistance are also concerning given that budget Samsung, Xiaomi, etc phones beat this.

                                      However having components of the phone being easily replacable is a great thing.

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                                      • M [email protected]

                                        I just want them to be smaller.

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                                        It's 6.3" because of the lack of top/bottom bezels. The phone itself is not much bigger than a Galaxy S7.

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                                        • L [email protected]

                                          I was just hoping a phone like fairphone would give me the option to buy a small module or something to let me do it.

                                          Yes, yes there's adapters .... yes, yes, you don't need to use it ... I understand. I just want it.

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                                          You'd ultimately be sacrificing battery size for that Aux jack you hardly use. For most that's not worth it

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