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  3. Fairphone announces the €599 Fairphone 6, with a 6.31" 120Hz LTPO OLED display, a Snapdragon 7s Gen 3 chip, and enhanced modularity with 12 swappable parts

Fairphone announces the €599 Fairphone 6, with a 6.31" 120Hz LTPO OLED display, a Snapdragon 7s Gen 3 chip, and enhanced modularity with 12 swappable parts

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  • D [email protected]

    Might be more challenging.

    Laptop, its simple, if wifi and bluetooth works, its gonna work around the entire world (it's all standardized).

    Phones? I mean the main functions of a phone is phone calls and data use. Every country has different bands, and some carriers/countries have IMEI whitelisting.

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    Yeah but the entire philosophy of Framework would be one phone construction standard and then you swap out the radio chip. Granted, there's never been a hard phone standard, and the parts have never been designed for swapping. They would be the ones designing and commissioning these standards. Anyway, so I'm gonna be waiting very patiently.

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      Worth noting buying a second hand phone is still better in every aspect and sadly 2nd hand Samsung from 3 years ago is still better and cheaper. Though Fairphone is getting closer with each release!

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        It is an android, which is moving towards an ai for everything trajectory which might be a privacy nightmare, I wonder if the next step of the fairphone journey is to break from android

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        They cooperate with Murena, so /e/OS is officially supported and you can buy new devices with /e/OS installed. I am running /e/OS on my Fairphone 5 and it works great.

        They also seem to have given developer devices to the PostmarketOS folks, so that they hit the ground running with a working FP6 port already. I'm not sure exactly what is going on behind the scenes between Fairphone and PostmarketOS here - maybe @[email protected] can fill us in.

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          You can purchase the /e/os version. But it is more expensive

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          I installed it myself on my FP5 (bought with Android in a shop) using the online installer, which was pretty easy and obviously free of charge.

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            Problem is, it is not IP68 rated, which is a dealbreaker for someone with an active lifestyle; especially since I sometimes manage to get water even into my IP68 phones. It would be good if they made a Pro model or just made the regular model more expensive since I will gladly pay for privacy and quality on a device that is on me at all times. For now I will stick to my Pixel 9 Pro.

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            There are those waterproof bag things. I wouldn't trust the IP rating on a phone.

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              You can get them in the U.S. with /e/OS through Murena, but they are $900 😞

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              I would not recommend Murena for U.S. customers. I attempted buying a FP4 from them, and they put $6000 in charges to my credit card. Their message-only customer service was terrible and tried to blame me. Had to get my bank involved.

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                Fairphone has been a really disappointing experiment in so-called sustainable tech over the years. They keep making new phones instead of continuing to support the old ones, which might be greenwashing. (Whereas if you got a legacy Framework 13, it's still user-repairable and upgradable.) If they wanted to make a non-upgradable device, maybe it would have been wise to make it high-end to futureproof to work until 4G gets phased out. Fairphone still is not making their products available in the U.S., and Murena is a borderline scam company and I am genuinely shocked Fairphone works with them.

                And I've heard their logic with the headphone jack, but I do think AUX is the lesser of two evils as removing it will just lead to more e-waste with broken bluetooth headphones that rarely last as long as good wired ones. Fairphone's own bluetooth accessories have gotten negative reviews for their lower build quality, so Fairbuds are likely not the solution to the headphone jack problem.

                For the simple fact that non-Europeans can buy them directly off the website, I would sooner recommend feature phones from Sunbeam as it also has user-replaceable batteries and you can send it in for repairs. Or just any phone used.

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                  I installed it myself on my FP5 (bought with Android in a shop) using the online installer, which was pretty easy and obviously free of charge.

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                  Yea, this is completely okay, but there is a small difference - for stock /e/os ones, the Bootloader is locked. I am not sure about details but this would be a needed security feature for some applications

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                    650€ is way too expensive for an unknown phone brand with an unknown OS installed on it smh. i'd love to buy one but considering you can get a samsung for less than 500€

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                      Yeah wow, the problem with the phone that tries to compete with unethical big business is that unethical big entity is cheaper. Who would have thought

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                      Because a weak CPU, weak water resistance, and weak glass don't make for a long-lasting, sustainable phone.

                      I like the fact that the parts are easy to replace, but the big manufacturers beat them in other aspects of longevity.

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                        You have headphones on in your car, listening to music, while you're driving? I hope you've checked your local laws because that is illegal in quite a few countries. It's also a very niche example as most people would use the car stereo instead of headphones.

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                        C'mon, this is getting childish. No, I don't have headphones while driving, I have an audio input to the car's stereo.

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                          how do you charge the phone with a DAC plugged in?

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                          You can get a USB-C splitter adapter.

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                            650€ is way too expensive for an unknown phone brand with an unknown OS installed on it smh. i'd love to buy one but considering you can get a samsung for less than 500€

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                            What are you talking about this phone is established, this is their 6th one... and the bootloader is unlocked.

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                            • blinfabian@feddit.nlB [email protected]

                              650€ is way too expensive for an unknown phone brand with an unknown OS installed on it smh. i'd love to buy one but considering you can get a samsung for less than 500€

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                              You know the price is naturally higher when materials are ethically sourced, right? That's kinda how it works..

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                                If we revisit the "loud" vs "statistically significant" paradigm, while it is a shame you will not be able to charge the phone with a dac in without buying a specific cable, how often does the average person do so?

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                                so you need a dongle for the DAC, and an additional dongle for charging that is also, if I recall it correctly, violates the USB-C standard. did I understand it correctly?

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                                  They cooperate with Murena, so /e/OS is officially supported and you can buy new devices with /e/OS installed. I am running /e/OS on my Fairphone 5 and it works great.

                                  They also seem to have given developer devices to the PostmarketOS folks, so that they hit the ground running with a working FP6 port already. I'm not sure exactly what is going on behind the scenes between Fairphone and PostmarketOS here - maybe @[email protected] can fill us in.

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                                  Wasn't even aware of Murena, will def have a look, thanks for sharing all that info!

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                                    Wirelessly.

                                    Or you switch to your bluetooth buds during a wired charge.

                                    I'm all for audio jacks, but have been using a phone without one for 4 years now, and there are so many options to not be incovenienced.

                                    Also I don't use my audiophile headphones with the phone at all - DAC on it just isn't good enough to get most out of then, prefer to use them with my desktop PC amp only.

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                                    good luck charging my phone wirelessly! wireless charging is also very wasteful, and it does not support idle charging (powering the phone without wearing the battery), even if the phone otherwise does. doesn't it also take up a significant amount of that precious space inside the phone?

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                                      Honestly, this might be the first fairphone which I would classify as good enough for daily use.

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                                        C'mon, this is getting childish. No, I don't have headphones while driving, I have an audio input to the car's stereo.

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                                        Then maybe don't make examples of something I never talked about? I think I've been very clear that I'm talking about replacing 3.5mm headphones with a USB-C headphones. I wasn't talking about replacing a 3.5mm in/out cable with some kind of a USB-C in, 3.5mm out cable. Such a cable would have to contain a DAC and if it's going to contain a DAC you might as well buy a USB hub with a 3.5mm out port so you can continue using your 3.5mm in/out cable while you also charge your phone. See how that's a completely different scenario with a completely different solution?

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                                          You can get a USB-C splitter adapter.

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                                          isn't that against the USB-C standard?

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