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  3. Fairphone announces the €599 Fairphone 6, with a 6.31" 120Hz LTPO OLED display, a Snapdragon 7s Gen 3 chip, and enhanced modularity with 12 swappable parts

Fairphone announces the €599 Fairphone 6, with a 6.31" 120Hz LTPO OLED display, a Snapdragon 7s Gen 3 chip, and enhanced modularity with 12 swappable parts

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  • W [email protected]

    "just", I think not giving money to Apple or Google anything is a perfectly good reason alone to want expandable storage.

    Phone manufacturers charge a massive premium for more storage on a phone, storage which is then lost if the phone dies. A microSD card can be moved around and they cost little.

    Not everyone has a home server, in fact a very very small percentage do and being able to store their photos and what-not on a microSD card is very valuable. The freedom to add more storage is a good thing to have. Most people can understand an SD card, but not how to setup an entire home server with syncing etc, let alone exposing that to the web to access it anywhere. It also costs money to run, a microSD card doesn't.

    The only reason we don't have expandable storage or a 3.5mm port anymore is: money. They want to sell you that cloud service, upcharge you for more internal storage and make you buy their bluetooth earbuds.

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    I understand all of that and I agree with you. Not wanting to pay monthly storage fees is perfectly reasonable too. I know I did everything to avoid giving Google any money for storage.

    But microSD slots on phones aren't coming back, and manufacturers are giving you 512GB of internal storage at most, so we need to move on with the times.

    I don't have a home server (yet) either, but I do have 2 TB disks I use to store all the important stuff I want to save forever. Nothing lives on my phone so I'm fine with 128GB.

    Local syncing can be done just by installing Syncthing or Omnisend, and everything gets transferred through your home Wi-Fi. No need for complicated setups. I mentioned home servers as an example but you certainly don't need one.

    MicroSD cards also die so I don't know why you used that as a slight against internal phone storage. You should always have backups.

    Storage is dirt cheap these days, it makes no sense to hinder yourself buying niche phones, often at inflated prices, just for a feature that is easily worked around. In my opinion.

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    • pokexpert30@jlai.luP [email protected]

      This this this.

      They want to sell their buds and headset.

      don't misunderstand me, those are great repairable bluetooth devices, but if i were to not have a headphone jack and just a "long lasting repairable phone" , i'm sticking to my Google pixel.

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      They want to sell their buds and headset.

      Not sure if it still is that way, but when i bought my FP4 years ago, free buds were included.

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      • B [email protected]

        love fairphone but i cant go bacl from graphene os. its so nice not having google attacjed to everything.

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        I wish I could ditch stock android but my business bank app refuses to run on e/os and I assume I'd have the same problem with graphene.

        e/os was otherwise soo much better, and the increase in performance and battery life was huge.

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          And with the same ethics standards

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          how many people care about the source of the materials?

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            Why aren't you complaining about the removal of a keyboard? Or the removal of SD card slots? Or the removal or the IR light? Or the notification light? or something else that used to be there but isn't now. Why is the 3.5mm port so special it deserves constant complaining about almost A DECADE LATER? Why must you be these grumpy old men who can't fucking move on with the times.

            I don't really care if the port is there or not, I'm just fed up with the constant whining about it. It's gone, the ship has sailed. The majority are more than happy to use wireless headphones, 3.5mm is a niche in the mobile space. There are alternatives if you really like wired headphones. What makes 3.5mm such fucking hill to die on? Nothing. It's just petty conservatism of people unwilling to move on with the times.

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            the 3.5mm jack still exists on low to mid-range phones, the high end ones were the only ones that removed it and then mid-range phones copied it.

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            • R [email protected]

              I think you need a camera, not a phone

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              Maybe phones shouldn't have multiple cameras if they aren't actually usable

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                No one has been using aux cable mobile headphones for the past 10 years. Headphone jack is e-waste at this point. bluetooth audio is great and if you really want to be a boomer you can use the usb C headphones.

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                how else are you supposed to connect it to cars that weren't made yesterday?

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                  USB 2? What a stupid choice that appears to be. Did they have any reasoning behind that?

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                  The transfer speed over USB on mine probably doesn't even pass USB 2 speeds anyway and I've had flagship phones in the past that were even slower over a cable. I guess if that's still the case then there's probably a good engineering argument to reduce complexity.

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                  • jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.worksJ [email protected]

                    Maybe phones shouldn't have multiple cameras if they aren't actually usable

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                    Maybe you shouldn't buy a phone if you want a "usable" camera.

                    And you shouldn't buy a camera either as you don't seem to understand those either.

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                    • pokexpert30@jlai.luP [email protected]

                      This this this.

                      They want to sell their buds and headset.

                      don't misunderstand me, those are great repairable bluetooth devices, but if i were to not have a headphone jack and just a "long lasting repairable phone" , i'm sticking to my Google pixel.

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                      I doubt it's some conspiracy, but it does still suck. I'm on my 3rd USB port on my fp4 because I use wired earphones. Replaceable USB port was my initial reason for buying a fair phone otherwise I'd likely be buying a new phone every year.

                      USB C is not up to that kind of use, and BT ear buds suck...

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                      • pokexpert30@jlai.luP [email protected]

                        This this this.

                        They want to sell their buds and headset.

                        don't misunderstand me, those are great repairable bluetooth devices, but if i were to not have a headphone jack and just a "long lasting repairable phone" , i'm sticking to my Google pixel.

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                        #478

                        Just get a cheap usb c -> 3.5mm adapter. Problem solved.

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                        • routhinator@startrek.websiteR [email protected]

                          I respect your opinion, but I lived through 90s computing and think dongles died the death they deserve and these phone manufacturers can go to hell for bringing them back or thinking that bluetooth audio is good enough.

                          Additionally most of the droids I have bought that have a jack are the perfect thickness in my mind. Weighted enough to stay in my hand and take a couple dozen drops without accident. Plus the headphone jack is used as an antenna and provides radio capabilities so I can listen to local news instead of whatever the tech industry wants to feed me. Which is a nice option.

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                          Bluetooth audio is good enough when you’re comparing it to phone headphone jacks. Phones aren’t audiophile devices. No one is going to notice the difference in sound.

                          A 3.5mm jack adapter is as unintrusive as can be - it just stays on your headphone cable.

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                          • R [email protected]

                            Maybe you shouldn't buy a phone if you want a "usable" camera.

                            And you shouldn't buy a camera either as you don't seem to understand those either.

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                            a camera should save the raw data from the sensor to a file along with potentially metadata, there is no reason for it to "enhance" the photo or video, compression only makes sense for posting online or video

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                              There are those waterproof bag things. I wouldn't trust the IP rating on a phone.

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                              Yeah no one should trust IP ratings on phones because unless they cover water damage in their warranty - which none do - the company doesn’t even trust their own IP rating.

                              I always shake my head when I read about people taking their phones in the shower, in the pool, etc. IP ratings degrade over time as well.

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                              • jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.worksJ [email protected]

                                a camera should save the raw data from the sensor to a file along with potentially metadata, there is no reason for it to "enhance" the photo or video, compression only makes sense for posting online or video

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                                Tell that you every single digital camera. Very few output RAW by default, many don't even offer that option. This isn't a "phone cameras" issue.

                                The fact that you think post process is compression says a lot, or that there's no reason to apply post process when 99.9% of the population don't even know what RAW is and won't benefit from it.

                                Again, you want a proper camera, buy a proper camera. But learn a bit before

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                                • D [email protected]

                                  Worth noting buying a second hand phone is still better in every aspect and sadly 2nd hand Samsung from 3 years ago is still better and cheaper. Though Fairphone is getting closer with each release!

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                                  You will need to add on the price for a new battery replacement on a 3 year old Sammy lol

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                                  • F [email protected]

                                    Just get a cheap usb c -> 3.5mm adapter. Problem solved.

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                                    #484

                                    First of all no, i dont want to carry a dongle as i may plug in multiple headsets.

                                    Second of all, i want to charge my phone while listening to music, and i want even less to carry a doubling d'ongle

                                    Third of all, i fail to see the "eco responsible" part of needing to buy more things than nécessary, then wearing down needlessly the usb-c over time.

                                    So, with all due respect, piss off

                                    PS : you're the same kind of person who said "don't want a phone without headphone jack? Only buy one that has one instead of complaining" when apple started the trend, and guess what mfers, i'm never stopping complaining

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                                      Because a weak CPU, weak water resistance, and weak glass don't make for a long-lasting, sustainable phone.

                                      I like the fact that the parts are easy to replace, but the big manufacturers beat them in other aspects of longevity.

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                                      At the cost of the labourers and environment. That's why the fair one is better in every aspect

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                                      • ulrich@feddit.orgU [email protected]

                                        Headphone jack is e-waste

                                        you can use the usb C headphones

                                        What the absolute fuck are you talking about? What am I supposed to do with the dozen wired headphones I already have? Some of them decades old? Throw them in the garbage? Sounds real eco-friendly.

                                        bluetooth audio is great

                                        It is. We had it on phones since before the original iPhone. No one wants to take that away.

                                        Problem is BT headphones last 2 years then they go in the garbage because the batteries are dead. How eco-friendly is that!?

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                                        You can use your dozen wired headphones you already have with a $10 usb-c -> 3.5mm adapter.

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                                          I hope you’re not suggesting that people store all of their photos and movies and stuff on their phones SD card and SD card only……

                                          SD cards are absurdly volatile and prone to corruption.

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