Can i simply bake frozen chicken or does it actually need to thaw over several hours or immersed in cold water or something?
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You can sous vide in silicone bags. You just won't be able to vacuum seal it, but you can squeeze most of the air out.
I don't even vacuum seal my plastic bags, so I can confirm this approach should work.
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No they are not. The thing that separates them is how efficiently they take moisture away from food by moving air around with methods that are not convection.
It's the reason you can get soggier fries in a regular oven when compared to an air fryer.
That said, a lot of air fryers are close to convection ovens because they either missed the concept or were designed poorly.
What methods are those? I thought it was just way stronger convection, would love to learn more!
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What methods are those? I thought it was just way stronger convection, would love to learn more!
Usually a fan from my experience, pulls air and it's moisture out and pulls fresh air through a heating mechanism or near one
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Usually a fan from my experience, pulls air and it's moisture out and pulls fresh air through a heating mechanism or near one
Ah I see, and normal convection just circulates air inside the oven without removing the moisture?
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Ah I see, and normal convection just circulates air inside the oven without removing the moisture?
wrote on last edited by [email protected]I honestly don't know, I want to say moisture still boils out, just not at the rate of having something dedicated pulling it out.
I'd recommend looking into it. This is just me remembering talking about it with another person on Lemmy a year or two ago, and then looking into it myself.
If I remember right, fries get crispiest in deep fryers because of the density of steam/oil almost immediately getting the moisture away from the outside of the food. Air fryers do their best to imitate that function by manually pulling air.
This article says that some but not all convection ovens use fans for circulation, but air fryers have way more air movement.
The one in my kitchen has a fan on the side that pulls air out right where the basket is, and I think fresh air comes from the opposing side but I could be wrong there.
I guess this could be compared to a cheeseburger being a hamburger, but a hamburger is not always a cheeseburger analogy. Technically an airfyer can be classified as a convection ovens, but a convection oven isn't always an air fryer. It has a different function, cooks quicker, and moves more air closer to food producing different results.
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if you dont defrost it first you will most likely over cook the outside while the middle will be frozen or undercooked. potentially dangerous for chicken.
pro tip for fast defrosting? cut it up in smaller pieces, while its frozen. this gives each piece a greater surface area, meaning it will defrost and cook much faster. in this case, baking would be slowest option, i would chop into cubes and pan fry.
whip up a slice of nice verse pie.
Another pro tip is putting the meat in a ziplock bag and putting it in lukewarm water. It will defrost much quicker than in the ambient air.
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No they are not. The thing that separates them is how efficiently they take moisture away from food by moving air around with methods that are not convection.
It's the reason you can get soggier fries in a regular oven when compared to an air fryer.
That said, a lot of air fryers are close to convection ovens because they either missed the concept or were designed poorly.
What??? They're literally convection ovens. They pull in fresh air and blow out moisture with the element very close to the food. Your own link further down pretty much says the same thing.
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No they are not. The thing that separates them is how efficiently they take moisture away from food by moving air around with methods that are not convection.
It's the reason you can get soggier fries in a regular oven when compared to an air fryer.
That said, a lot of air fryers are close to convection ovens because they either missed the concept or were designed poorly.
You're confusing convection with conventional.
A convection oven is an oven with a fan to induce convection currents. A conventional oven is a hot box. Air fryers are ovens with fans in them to induce convection currents, ergo air fryers are convection ovens.
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The people who throw away leftovers after a day or two (or refuse to eat leftovers) are insane. They’re the same ones who won’t drink a bottle of water after its “expiration date”. Smell the thing. If it’s gross, get rid of it. Otherwise, it’s fine. I mean damn, people.
The bottled water expiration date is not exactly because the water will go bad, instead it's the bottle itself. After some time, the plastic starts to break down and leech into the water. Storing the bottles somewhere cool and dark will slow that process down though.
That being said, if the seal isn't broken, it's not going to make you sick even if it's well past the expiration date.
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if you dont defrost it first you will most likely over cook the outside while the middle will be frozen or undercooked. potentially dangerous for chicken.
pro tip for fast defrosting? cut it up in smaller pieces, while its frozen. this gives each piece a greater surface area, meaning it will defrost and cook much faster. in this case, baking would be slowest option, i would chop into cubes and pan fry.
whip up a slice of nice verse pie.
pro tip for fast defrosting? cut it up in smaller pieces, while its frozen.
This is also a pro tip for cutting chicken breast into cubes - it's way easier to do while it's still partially frozen.
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You're still good to fuck that chicken before you chop its head off! Yeee haw!
The Devil's Rejects: You gonna fuck that chicken?
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You can sous vide in silicone bags. You just won't be able to vacuum seal it, but you can squeeze most of the air out.
The trick is to submerge the bag in water before sealing it. It's not a perfect vacuum, but the water pressure still helps squeeze out the air out of the bag.
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Cooking from raw can result in a beautifully delicate interior. The key is to start at a lower temp and then raise it to your normal temp after a certain temp is hit. I did my turkey this way this year all because of this video. In case you don't know who Chris Young is, he was the science consultant at The Fat Duck, co founder of ChefSteps, inventor of the Joule, and co-author to The Modernist Cookbook.
Yeah honestly I either sousvide or use a control freak.
Salt 1.5% or 3% equilibrium brine. I pound the breast about 3/4 of an inch thick and set the control freak to 160c 5 min a side. It won't be completely done in the center but a 5 min rest will get it there.
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https://foodess.com/air-fryer-frozen-chicken-breast/
The fuck? Literally tons of recipes online for it.
Its actually better than thawed. It keeps the center super moist.
I'm also confused as to why. I use a commercial connection oven a lot. From my experience, convection decreases cooking time (obviously) and gets a better crisp. I don't see how that helps the issue of preventing overcooked outside and/or undercooked inside. If anything, I'd think it makes it more of a problem. Isn't it the conduction through the food that the determining factor?
Not saying you're wrong, just that I didn't get it
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Im hungry now!
You can do anything once.
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Please explain how you think frozen chicken in an air fryer would turn out ok. I'm curious.
Yeah, plus it's like 10x more flavor and faster to cook if it's room temp and has a light coat of olive oil and seasoning. Just night/difference in texture and flavor. That's one thing all the cooking videos never mention, let it get to room temp for superior everything. Not cold, not frozen.
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What??? They're literally convection ovens. They pull in fresh air and blow out moisture with the element very close to the food. Your own link further down pretty much says the same thing.
I disagree. Keep reading down the thread
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You're confusing convection with conventional.
A convection oven is an oven with a fan to induce convection currents. A conventional oven is a hot box. Air fryers are ovens with fans in them to induce convection currents, ergo air fryers are convection ovens.
I came to that conclusion further down this thread, and tldr same same but different, so it's still different. In the way that a CRT TV is different than LED TV.
They both have their strong suites and do different cooking styles better than the other, much like CRT/LED.
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I disagree. Keep reading down the thread
An air fryer is like a mini convection oven, but it’s designed to make food super crispy with way less oil.
From your own link... it's a convection oven. Period.
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An air fryer is like a mini convection oven, but it’s designed to make food super crispy with way less oil.
From your own link... it's a convection oven. Period.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]I still disagree, I don't know what else to tell you.
Also in your own quote it is like, not is and has a ,but
It's like calling a fighter jet and a commercial jet the same thing. Yeah they're both jets, but they have different capabilities and purpose.
