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The specter of a GTA 6 delay haunts the games industry: 'Some companies are going to tank' if they guess wrong, says analyst

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  • A [email protected]

    This is so strange. Wasn't it not long ago that studios were crowding into very specific release windows ( usually november iirc ) so they could maximize initial sales? Maybe the digital release era has changed things. I mean, I get it if your game was in the same niche or smth, but "companies might tank" seems a little much.

    Either way, if this is true, eoy 2025 is in for a dry spell when it comes to new games.

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    They aren’t crowding into those windows because competition helps their sales, it’s because they expect the biggest shopping period of the year will result in more sales than they lose. And there’s a reason only the biggest titles release in these windows.

    Capcom made the decision years ago to release in February/March because they know a November window will drown them.

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      I don’t know about that one. Games are expensive these days and if your game releases anywhere near the rumored $100 GTA 6, a LOT of people are going to have to choose one or the other, and it’s very unlikely that in most cases they don’t choose GTA6, literally the most anticipated video game of the last decade. Sure you can always buy the smaller game later, but a huge part of the sales of video games is the opening week, when all the hype around it has had time to come to a head, and you’re influenced by the fact that lots of other people are playing it.

      Yeah good games will always sell SOME copies. But if you thinking that a game even releasing in the same month as GTA6 won’t have a permanent impact on that games sales, you’re smoking the reefer.

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      I think what you’re saying is true but perhaps you’re both talking about different things. I think you’re speaking about the reality of the situation whereas the comment OP is talking about the risk averse nature of large game studios. I don’t think it’s the same thing.

      Also, I think I’m part of a growing minority but if gta 6 reviews are bad I’m not buying it until I hear it’s been fixed. I’ve been burned so many times 😭

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        I think what you’re saying is true but perhaps you’re both talking about different things. I think you’re speaking about the reality of the situation whereas the comment OP is talking about the risk averse nature of large game studios. I don’t think it’s the same thing.

        Also, I think I’m part of a growing minority but if gta 6 reviews are bad I’m not buying it until I hear it’s been fixed. I’ve been burned so many times 😭

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        You cant trust reviews. For example dragon's dogma 2 which i just picked up is a great game. But some people wouldn't know it based a lot of criticism and bad reviews it recieved when it launched.

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        • explodicle@sh.itjust.worksE [email protected]

          I just assumed game companies had been doing that since the 1800's.

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          Sure you can argue standard practice has been and should be to deliver a finished game first and foremost. But in the context of modern gaming and setting release dates, Rockstar has historically been I afraid to change a release date to make a better game. But yes before the internet and the ability to patch a game it was standard to make sure your game didn’t suck before letting it loose.

          And my comment was more to point out that using CDPR as a shining beacon of consistently solid game releases is laughable, especially when comparing them to Rockstar.

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            I wouldn’t call it a success yet. I just started playing it for the first time yesterday and I have already fallen through the floor twice and the camera was broken causing seizure inducing visuals in one of the cutscenes.

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            It's right there in the link. It sold more than Witcher 3, even though it did the wrong thing by releasing early and buggy.

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              I think what you’re saying is true but perhaps you’re both talking about different things. I think you’re speaking about the reality of the situation whereas the comment OP is talking about the risk averse nature of large game studios. I don’t think it’s the same thing.

              Also, I think I’m part of a growing minority but if gta 6 reviews are bad I’m not buying it until I hear it’s been fixed. I’ve been burned so many times 😭

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              It’s the exact same thing actually. Their claim was:

              Good games will sell regardless of what’s out

              But that’s just not true, and game studios of all sizes know that. The risk aversion of these companies exist because of the reality of the situation.

              It also has nothing to do with a studios confidence in their game. The quality of a game is light years away from being the sole objective indicator of a games sales. The Outer Wilds is objectively one of the greatest games ever made and has no real peers in what it does. And yet it didn’t make nearly the sales numbers as the latest asset flipped Call of Duty game.

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                You cant trust reviews. For example dragon's dogma 2 which i just picked up is a great game. But some people wouldn't know it based a lot of criticism and bad reviews it recieved when it launched.

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                Ehh yeah that’s a whole other can of worms. By “reviews”, for me, I mean a bunch of different sources.

                And I do that because you’re correct! Trust in those is low.

                So “reviews” maybe isn’t the right word. Just tryna keep the comment simple.

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                  It’s the exact same thing actually. Their claim was:

                  Good games will sell regardless of what’s out

                  But that’s just not true, and game studios of all sizes know that. The risk aversion of these companies exist because of the reality of the situation.

                  It also has nothing to do with a studios confidence in their game. The quality of a game is light years away from being the sole objective indicator of a games sales. The Outer Wilds is objectively one of the greatest games ever made and has no real peers in what it does. And yet it didn’t make nearly the sales numbers as the latest asset flipped Call of Duty game.

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                  Fair enough - I stand corrected

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                  • finishingdutch@lemmy.worldF [email protected]

                    Companies need to grow a spine. Good games sell regardless of what’s out. If your confidence in your own game is so low that you’d push it to a slow release date, it’s probably not worth playing anyway.

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                    that's not true. games can absolutely get fucked by release dates coinciding with big names. and have.

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                    • S [email protected]

                      But also don't forget that the amount of gamers is larger today than in 2013. Gaming is much more mainstream, and so even 97% of the install base is still disappointing considering steam grew by, what, 3x or something in terms of average monthly users?

                      Another source I found is that the amount of total gamers grew by roughly 50% from 2013 to 2025. But yeah, I just did a quick skin numbers are not precise

                      But still, 97% is disappointing considering the general demographic was supposed to grow. And then, in reality, it's just 67% too

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                      Yeah that's a good point.

                      If gaming grew and the total userbase is the same now, then it's smaller by percentage.

                      That must been that PC is just exploding in popularity over the time period in question.

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                        Good for you! For GTA VI, I definitely wanna play it as quickly as possible and £70 is a pretty reasonable price for that.

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                        Why the rush?

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                          I don't know why but I couldn't give two shits about GTA6, maybe I'm just burned out on AAA games

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                            I don't know why but I couldn't give two shits about GTA6, maybe I'm just burned out on AAA games

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                            maybe I’m just burned out on AAA games

                            I know I am.

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                              I think what you’re saying is true but perhaps you’re both talking about different things. I think you’re speaking about the reality of the situation whereas the comment OP is talking about the risk averse nature of large game studios. I don’t think it’s the same thing.

                              Also, I think I’m part of a growing minority but if gta 6 reviews are bad I’m not buying it until I hear it’s been fixed. I’ve been burned so many times 😭

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                              I know I am buying it once the price goes down considerably. Wasn't it rumoured to start with 3 digits? I'm a patient gamer.

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                                A spinoff game, Horizon Call of the Mountain, which is a VR game

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                                Ah, that's right.

                                The horizon devs really need to get together with From Soft so that'll stop happening

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                                  I don't know why but I couldn't give two shits about GTA6, maybe I'm just burned out on AAA games

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                                  Im opposed. Its maybe only AAA game im intrested in long time.

                                  Mostly because of their track record. I have been playing GTA since the very first top down game and every main game in the series has pushed the games further.

                                  Thinking how big leaps every game has done, i cant wait to see what kind of the beast 6 is going to be.

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                                    I don't know why but I couldn't give two shits about GTA6, maybe I'm just burned out on AAA games

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                                    I'm the same but I may just be getting older. Last game I was hyped for was Cyberpunk 2077 coming off of the stellar Witcher 3 and having followed both games I loved, W1 & W2. Sometime before it released, I just dropped all hype for it and haven't felt the same after. Haven't even played it yet either.

                                    Today, I let myself be pleasantly surprised by games I never thought I'd like. I really liked Death Stranding and I'm waiting for its sequel but still no hype... I haven't even seen the trailer yet and I doubt I will... I'll buy it and go in blindly.

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                                    • explodicle@sh.itjust.worksE [email protected]

                                      As an optimist, I expect more expansions like Gay Tony and for them to simply make fun of microtransactions on the radio.

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                                      Ah, full expansion DLC. That'd be nice.

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                                        I'd rather wait than buy a console for a single game that will barely hit 720p/30.

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                                        I think they mean it will never be PC only, so it'd be an infinite wait. Or maybe some future release version will be console only.

                                        Also, "720p/30" lol

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                                          Why the rush?

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                                          I'm with you on not paying full price in general, but they answered your main question before and you didnt acknowledge it.

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