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Could a newly elected Congress deauthorize all of Trump's tariffs and defund most of ICE in 2026?

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      Even if Dems somehow became majority in Congress. They'll make little effort to make big changes. Prove me wrong.

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        The bill to fund the Gestapo has been passed. Too late.

        Trump's tariffs are illegal though, and could / should / will be hopefully annuled.

        That's assuming there's a democracy left functioning.

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          It's going to take years to get this fixed. It's easier to destroy in such a short time than it is to rebuild and fix our government. We need a MASSIVE overhaul. This government can not naively rely on people with good faith in order to operate like it's supposed to.

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            Even if Dems somehow became majority in Congress. They'll make little effort to make big changes. Prove me wrong.

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            "We can't go too liberal too fast! The country would resist it!"

            Meanwhile, Republicans are regressing at a mile a minute, while we squander our opportunities by casually strolling towards rights we've already gained and lost again over the past hundred years.

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              Even if Dems somehow became majority in Congress. They'll make little effort to make big changes. Prove me wrong.

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              That might hurt all their insider trading so we know it won’t happen

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                For something to pass as law, it needs the president's signature. And I doubt trumpnis gonna sign a law that revokes his own policies. Which leaves the only option to get 2/3 majority in both houses.

                Not happening.

                (Unless we trick him into going on a vacation somewhere, pass the bills, wait for him to ignore it for 10 days, then it automatically become law.)

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                  It's going to take years to get this fixed. It's easier to destroy in such a short time than it is to rebuild and fix our government. We need a MASSIVE overhaul. This government can not naively rely on people with good faith in order to operate like it's supposed to.

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                  100% this. I give it 10-12 years from the point at which we finally get shit turned around. Seen it too many times before. it's not yet a generation-level issue, but it's getting there.

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                    100% this. I give it 10-12 years from the point at which we finally get shit turned around. Seen it too many times before. it's not yet a generation-level issue, but it's getting there.

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                    10-12 years is crazy optimistic, IMO. Especially if we consider the arsonists will likely get power again in that timespan. We spent like 80 years building the science, health and technology apparatus that's been destroyed and anyone with the specialized knowledge forced out the door, won't be so willing to return.

                    I predict the US will be dependent on Europe for forward progress, for a long time. Likely beyond our lifespans.

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                      For something to pass as law, it needs the president's signature. And I doubt trumpnis gonna sign a law that revokes his own policies. Which leaves the only option to get 2/3 majority in both houses.

                      Not happening.

                      (Unless we trick him into going on a vacation somewhere, pass the bills, wait for him to ignore it for 10 days, then it automatically become law.)

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                      Does congress need the presidents signature for bills already passed?

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                        The bill to fund the Gestapo has been passed. Too late.

                        Trump's tariffs are illegal though, and could / should / will be hopefully annuled.

                        That's assuming there's a democracy left functioning.

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                        They'll keep parts of democracy working. The parts that enable them to control the labor force so they can extract profit. That's it. So lots of cops, jails and prisons. They'll keep funding roadways at a minimum because you've got to get to work. Basic kick-the-can-down-the-road levels of investment in other infrastructure but never enough to actually improve things. Schools will be entirely AI or Jesus with no in between.

                        Really, the whole thing will have lost all forms of legitimacy and I expect people will stop paying taxes or voting. Societal guardrails that prevent mass shootings will fail and people will just stop going to work because why bother - its not like working actually improves their lives anymore. Once food distribution systems fail, the government will fall.

                        I give it 3 years.

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                          Does congress need the presidents signature for bills already passed?

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                          Yes because in order to revoke a law, you need to enact another law explicitly saying that a previous law is revoked.

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