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Trump’s Team Calls Europe ‘Pathetic’ in Leaked Signal Group Chat Messages

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    Let's keep it honest here, European leaders have been talking down about America on a regular basis for decades. They look at us like we are trash and only tolerate us because we have the most feared military. It has been worse since Trump was elected again so is it really surprising to hear that the Trump administration does like them? Truthfully Europe is weak and has to rely on others to protect itself.

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    They were right to be talking down on us and we have been trash since at least Reagan though.

    Most European nations are societies. We're a bunch of deluded fools playing pretend we're rugged individuals at each other's throats for oligarch scraps.

    We can't even agree as a society to feed our kids. We let millions of our worst off neighbors die of exposure out of economic tribalist spite. This is a cesspool.

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      Imagine if those people looked up to us, we'd have to really question our values.

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      We did once. But then neocons decided to exploit your govt and eroded all faith. It's been a while.

      Trust is gained in drops but lost in buckets.

      I am nostalgic for the America that was a land of wonder. Making it great again is backfiring atm, but I do subscribe to that sentiment, not in the execution.

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        Espejito reboton

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          What the fuck headline is this. Kind of burying the lead, right? And it wasn't exactly "leaked," now was it? I didn't look at the garbage publication, but this is straight garbage

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            "oh daddy you and mr russia are waay better than Europe. we love you please feed us with your bodily excrements, you are the best"

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              I'm from the UK and the general feeling is not just distrust of the US government but also the complete disbelief that the American people could vote that fat traitorous wanker back in yet again. It is completely unfathomable.
              He is a committed and provable liar, and has been for decades...yet you vote him to be president, twice!

              After his first term during the many court cases etc there was, for a shortish time, a feeling that you had all come back to your senses and were doing the right thing.
              Making amends, even.
              That whilst he wouldn't go to prison for his many (MANYyyyyyy) crimes that he would be embroiled in the mire of shit for the rest of his life, and never again would someone like him be allowed near the power of office.
              And that he would die a failed and monumentally dishonest 'politician', just as he is a failed and monumentally dishonest 'businessman'.

              But no, he got voted in again.
              Yet just a cursory glance in the direction of some of the facts show that he's quite obviously compromised at best. A full Russian puppet/asset at worst.
              And he got voted in, AGAIN!?!
              It boggles the mind.

              It's not just about the politicians, the tariffs, how your 'running class' see Europe etc etc, but also the how the general voting populace of America also can't be trusted to do the bare minimum of not vote for the very worst of the worst.

              Yes, not all of you did vote for him. And yes I'm being harsh here, but it's not like it didn't happen before, this is the second time. And it's not like it's not deserved.

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              I’m from the UK and the general feeling is not just distrust of the US government but also the complete disbelief that the American people could vote that fat traitorous wanker back in yet again. It is completely unfathomable.

              I'm in the US and I have the same feeling. Surrounded by coworkers who have.

              I honestly have lost all faith in the people of this country.

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                They were right to be talking down on us and we have been trash since at least Reagan though.

                Most European nations are societies. We're a bunch of deluded fools playing pretend we're rugged individuals at each other's throats for oligarch scraps.

                We can't even agree as a society to feed our kids. We let millions of our worst off neighbors die of exposure out of economic tribalist spite. This is a cesspool.

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                If America has been trash since Reagan how could illegal immigrants not know who we are? I mean that was 45 years ago. America pays more per student for education than most other developed countries but ranks near the bottom especially in math and science. We are victims of our own success. Kids don't study or try hard because whatever happens they will be fine. Hell they are graduating kids from high school that cant even read or write their own names now.

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                  Yes, i have. There is no comparison. Sure you can say America compared to the 31 other countries military capabilities combined but each of those countries have separate needs and ambitions. So they will not act as one cohesive unit. That is why they always wait for America to decide. Ukraine is in Europe, if they want to send troops no one is stopping them. If China invaded Mexico do you think America would sit around waiting for NATO to gather the opinions of the 31 members of NATO before they responded? No. There is a clear difference.

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                  You understand that the USA is a... unity of lots of states just like the EU, right? Even more than 31. Many of them far larger than many EU countries. Overall EU and USA are pretty much the same size. So why do you not want to compare them directly but still say that they are weaker? How does that make sense?

                  If China invaded Mexico I would assume that Trump is all for it and talks about how this restores order Blabla and how he is great.

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                    You understand that the USA is a... unity of lots of states just like the EU, right? Even more than 31. Many of them far larger than many EU countries. Overall EU and USA are pretty much the same size. So why do you not want to compare them directly but still say that they are weaker? How does that make sense?

                    If China invaded Mexico I would assume that Trump is all for it and talks about how this restores order Blabla and how he is great.

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                    The EU is not a nation, the USA is a nation, France is a nation, and so is Spain or Germany. Each nation looks out for their national interests, self preservation, and that is why the USA and the EU are not the same.

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                      What the fuck headline is this. Kind of burying the lead, right? And it wasn't exactly "leaked," now was it? I didn't look at the garbage publication, but this is straight garbage

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                      If I had to hazard a guess, I reckon they'll have done more than one story on this.

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