Tesla Is Allegedly Withholding Wages Of German Employees On Sick Leave
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It is not only the unions, it is the law in Germany. Americans have a hard time understanding the immense power of the law protecting employees here. Withholding sick payment is about as illegal as demanding health info. Both will be easy wins in court. Tesla will find themselves in a place of legal hurt.
Yeah, I would always pick the law over the union. I once had an employer try to fuck me over the pettiest thing. they had incorrectly, probably deliberately, terminated my contract so that I was ineligible for unemployment benefits. They don't pay that benefit and it takes them literally 5 minutes to fix it, so it pretty much would cost them nothing to make that change. But it meant the world for me because that would've been the only way for me to put food on the table. I argued with them for days and the entire time they're gaslighting me with "You don't know what you're talking about, we did everything right. Nothing is wrong." Eventually I got fed up. I told them "I don't need to deal with this shit. Give me the official reason why you can't change the reason for me termination. I'll forward it to the labour office and you can deal with them." literally the next thing they said was "fine, we'll fix it." and 5 minutes later it was done.
I imagine a union would've also helped me in that scenario, but I enjoyed the safety of knowing I could stick the law in their face and tell them to eat shit. My opinion is that worker unions are great but labor laws are even better.
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It is not only the unions, it is the law in Germany.
I should have made that clearer!
Let's be serious two seconds, what is not clear is how any country law could allow a employer to prevent an employee from getting the money that is their's.
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or government just seizes and sells enough property that they get what they’re owed
Nice. Can you link a case where that actually happened?
About the unions, I'm actually bound to partake in union strikes or similar action. You can't be part of a union and then wuss out when the going gets tough.
When it is cleae it will otherwise come to that, the companies tend to just comply. The thing is, tge value of the seized property is considered to be hiw much it can be sold for, not how useful it is for the company or how much they paid for it.
When Tesla is threatened by seizing a machine used for car manufacturing that they bought for 250 000 €, but there is no other car factory that has a need for another one one of those devices unless its dirt cheap, then it might be the machine will be seized, its valued to have a resale value of 15 000 €, and after the altogether 4000 € of missing salaries to various workers are paid, the remaining 11 000 will be paid back to the company. Which can then buy another machine like that for 250 000 €. Or, if they are lucky maybe buy their noe dismantled machine back?
In any case, that's such a horribly bad deal for the company that they definitely choose the 90 % cheaper option of just paying their debt to the workers. So, it doesn't really ever come to actual seizing. Either they can pay the original debt or they can't because they are bankrupt. Either way, no seizing. But it is absolutely possible to carry it through, should some company really want to be that stupid.
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That's a fantastic rule that I wish were true everywhere. So many frivolous lawsuits (which Elon is well-experienced in filing) would suddenly disappear.
Well, the word "automatically" is an exaggeration. For example, if it was a close call and it seems you were in the court fairly, then the losing side might not have to pay up, at least not in full. But often they do. Better settle if you think you'll lose. It's a lot cheaper that way.
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You gon learn
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Wrong. Also, wrong.
In summation, you're wrong because your sources of information are wrong.
To get correct, it does take effort, and it's worth it.
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Well, the word "automatically" is an exaggeration. For example, if it was a close call and it seems you were in the court fairly, then the losing side might not have to pay up, at least not in full. But often they do. Better settle if you think you'll lose. It's a lot cheaper that way.
So basically you just have to prove that you weren't filing frivolously. Sounds like a decent bar to clear.
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It is not only the unions, it is the law in Germany. Americans have a hard time understanding the immense power of the law protecting employees here. Withholding sick payment is about as illegal as demanding health info. Both will be easy wins in court. Tesla will find themselves in a place of legal hurt.
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Wrong. Also, wrong.
In summation, you're wrong because your sources of information are wrong.
To get correct, it does take effort, and it's worth it.
[citation needed]
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Well Germany needs to do something? Are they scared of musk?
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