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  • demonsword@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

    You'd say the same to ucranians? Or you think only brown palestinian people don't deserve to have their homeland?

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    The question is getting wiped off the planet or relocated. Of course they have a right to their homeland. But obviously a force is about to kill them all. So do they live or die off completely? What would you choose?

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      The question is getting wiped off the planet or relocated. Of course they have a right to their homeland. But obviously a force is about to kill them all. So do they live or die off completely? What would you choose?

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      I'd probably leave and then blow myself up in the middle of crowd in berlin lmao.

      Revenge time

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        current form

        Right, because they'll have a new form that includes the West Bank and a chunk of Syria.

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        It already includes the West Bank and a chunk of Syria.

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          it is targeted killing ...

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            Well what's your solution?

            Whatever it is it clearly doesn't work.

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            The rest of the UN could step up and reorganize to eliminate the permeant veto ability. UN contributions should be increased to a %GDP so that we can have a UN peacekeeping force with actual teeth.

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              Well what's your solution?

              Whatever it is it clearly doesn't work.

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              I don't have to know what will work in order to know what won't work. What do you think killing 600,000 people indiscriminately accomplishes? Blowing up a nuke in the US will only make every brown person on the face of the planet suffer and by extension everyone else as well. The retaliation would make the Crusades look like a mild skirmish. Every single right wing evangelical whack job would be voted directly into office. There would be muslim extermination camps created. Not to mention the barbaric notion that killling 600,000 people for vengence is downright evil. What you're proposing though has extreme consequences that you haven't even begun to fathom.

              I also don't think you'll approach the conversation with any unbias point of view considering you already decided whatever I say won't work. Maybe I think you should wear a silly hat and ask Congress nicely to quit killing kids? That would be more effective than killing 600,000 people and way less evil.

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                It already includes the West Bank and a chunk of Syria.

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                According to whom? Even Israel calls them "settlers."

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                  It's almost better to pull a doctor Bashir and just surrender. Let them relocate you and then try to survive. Is that better than just dying for nothing? You might say no because its your homeland, but at least your PEOPLE will survive?

                  It's a crazy situation without a good solution. I mean, other than Iseral laying the fuck off.

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                  Israel doesn't want to relocate Palestinians, they want to kill them, while actively preventing them from relocating.

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                    I'd probably leave and then blow myself up in the middle of crowd in berlin lmao.

                    Revenge time

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                    I dont know, get relocated and form resistance cells would be a better use of your life I would think. Or of course dying for your homeland. But you're already in such a helpless situation. Putting up a fight in those conditions, you're chances are slim to none.

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                      May all of Gaza's innocent victims collect their entire spiritual energy from the beyond and curse the lives of every Israeli soldier who participated in this genocide for all eternity. Including Netanyahu's direct family.

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                        I want to see the whole cabinet of Israel charged with war crimes. This isanity of the highest degree. I have no sympathy gor Hamas but this has gone way to far.

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                        Is Hamas even still a thing? Like as far as I can tell from my armchair halfway around the world they're basically all dead. It seems to me like Hamas has been thoroughly defeated. Gaza is a wasteland and at this point I would be surprised if Hamas could muster up any type of action.

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                          I dont know, get relocated and form resistance cells would be a better use of your life I would think. Or of course dying for your homeland. But you're already in such a helpless situation. Putting up a fight in those conditions, you're chances are slim to none.

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                          get relocated and form resistance cells

                          I think you literally just described how hamas came about, and look where that's gotten us.

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                            how does an 11 year old surrender? walk up to a border crossing and say "please relocate me" and hope they don't rifle butt her head?

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                            I know we're probably in agreement, but this is probably suicide. I think they pretty much shoot anyone near those border crossing/checkpoints that they aren't pre-notified on.

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                              Every country in that region sucks. Especially Iraq through Afghanistan. Let them kill each other off.

                              The Americans who show support for Palestine would get their heads chopped off if they visited that place. It's a bit ironic to support a country that hates Americans.

                              It's alright, anything to root against the Jews, who were actually involved in a genocide. And fairly recently. 6 million Jews. And people wonder why they're so defensive against attacks.

                              The same WW2 vets that fought the actual Nazis are getting booed today. From the few videos I've seen, I hope that's a minority of shitbags.

                              Hamas isn't our friend. You can't ignore Oct 7th, that was shitty in and of itself no matter if Israel provoked it or not. Israel is an ally. Palestine is not.

                              Fuck the people whose rooting against Israel just because Trump supports them.

                              I'm not here to start any fights. I've been to that region, and they really don't want any interference from the west. Especially after the Iraq and Afghanistan wars.

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                                Every country in that region sucks. Especially Iraq through Afghanistan. Let them kill each other off.

                                The Americans who show support for Palestine would get their heads chopped off if they visited that place. It's a bit ironic to support a country that hates Americans.

                                It's alright, anything to root against the Jews, who were actually involved in a genocide. And fairly recently. 6 million Jews. And people wonder why they're so defensive against attacks.

                                The same WW2 vets that fought the actual Nazis are getting booed today. From the few videos I've seen, I hope that's a minority of shitbags.

                                Hamas isn't our friend. You can't ignore Oct 7th, that was shitty in and of itself no matter if Israel provoked it or not. Israel is an ally. Palestine is not.

                                Fuck the people whose rooting against Israel just because Trump supports them.

                                I'm not here to start any fights. I've been to that region, and they really don't want any interference from the west. Especially after the Iraq and Afghanistan wars.

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                                "Let them kill each other off" is a cold way to talk about a conflict where one side is a nuclear-armed state backed by the West, and the other is a stateless people under occupation. This isn’t a fair fight—it’s a military superpower bombing refugee camps, hospitals, and UN schools while starving 2 million civilians.

                                You claim Palestinians would "chop heads off" Americans, but the U.S. has armed Israel for decades while it bulldozes homes, steals land, and locks millions in an open-air prison. If Palestinians hate American policy, can you blame them? Meanwhile, Israel gets billions in U.S. weapons while its politicians call for the "flattening of Gaza." Who’s really the ally here?

                                Yes, Hamas is brutal—but they didn’t appear out of nowhere. Decades of occupation, blockade, and apartheid radicalized people. That doesn’t justify Oct. 7, but ignoring the context is dishonest. Collective punishment—starving kids, bombing families—only creates more extremism.

                                And spare me the Holocaust guilt-tripping. Using Jewish suffering to justify Palestinian suffering is grotesque. Many Holocaust survivors, like those in Jewish Voice for Peace, opposed Zionism. Israel’s government includes far-right ministers who praise settlers burning Palestinian villages—are they "defending Jews" or fueling genocide?

                                The West props up Israel while pretending to care about "human rights." If you’ve really been to the region, you’d know: this isn’t about "rooting for Jews or Arabs." It’s about ending occupation, apartheid, and Western hypocrisy.

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                                  "Let them kill each other off" is a cold way to talk about a conflict where one side is a nuclear-armed state backed by the West, and the other is a stateless people under occupation. This isn’t a fair fight—it’s a military superpower bombing refugee camps, hospitals, and UN schools while starving 2 million civilians.

                                  You claim Palestinians would "chop heads off" Americans, but the U.S. has armed Israel for decades while it bulldozes homes, steals land, and locks millions in an open-air prison. If Palestinians hate American policy, can you blame them? Meanwhile, Israel gets billions in U.S. weapons while its politicians call for the "flattening of Gaza." Who’s really the ally here?

                                  Yes, Hamas is brutal—but they didn’t appear out of nowhere. Decades of occupation, blockade, and apartheid radicalized people. That doesn’t justify Oct. 7, but ignoring the context is dishonest. Collective punishment—starving kids, bombing families—only creates more extremism.

                                  And spare me the Holocaust guilt-tripping. Using Jewish suffering to justify Palestinian suffering is grotesque. Many Holocaust survivors, like those in Jewish Voice for Peace, opposed Zionism. Israel’s government includes far-right ministers who praise settlers burning Palestinian villages—are they "defending Jews" or fueling genocide?

                                  The West props up Israel while pretending to care about "human rights." If you’ve really been to the region, you’d know: this isn’t about "rooting for Jews or Arabs." It’s about ending occupation, apartheid, and Western hypocrisy.

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                                  When I said "let them kill each other off", it was brutal. I know I went too far with that statement.

                                  But I agree with the occupation, and western hypocrisy. It's sad to see , and it brings out the worst in humanity. Sometimes I think it's just better to start over.

                                  I am aware that Israel has been moving against the Palestinian population for a while, and that created a vacuum, similar to Afghanistan and Iraq. Oct 7th attack may have been an offensive maneuver to thwart further Israeli attacks, but all it did was made it worse. Now Netanyahu is going to "exterminate all of the animals".

                                  Either there needs to be intervention, by the west who usually causes such vacuums, or Israel will succeed. Cause if any other nation wages war on Israel, that's going to be a problem too.

                                  We all live* on the same planet. Only habitable planet for light years. I've seen war and it's not worth the price.

                                  Sometimes I just think our destruction is inevitable.

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                                    According to whom? Even Israel calls them "settlers."

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                                    Israel considers the Syrian Golan heights and large chunks of the Palestinian West Bank including Jerusalem as parts of Israel. They effectively occupy and control the entire area of Palestine.

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                                      Israel considers the Syrian Golan heights and large chunks of the Palestinian West Bank including Jerusalem as parts of Israel. They effectively occupy and control the entire area of Palestine.

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                                      Of course Israel considers them part of Israel. That's their alleged casus belli.

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                                        Is Hamas even still a thing? Like as far as I can tell from my armchair halfway around the world they're basically all dead. It seems to me like Hamas has been thoroughly defeated. Gaza is a wasteland and at this point I would be surprised if Hamas could muster up any type of action.

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                                        Does it really matter? Israel had the sympathy of the world after Oct. 7 and they threw it all away with their genocidal response. They've created infinitely more enemies than they've killed, and it doesn't matter if these enemies are called Hamas. Israel has guaranteed decades more violence be directed their way by whole new generations.

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                                          It's almost better to pull a doctor Bashir and just surrender. Let them relocate you and then try to survive. Is that better than just dying for nothing? You might say no because its your homeland, but at least your PEOPLE will survive?

                                          It's a crazy situation without a good solution. I mean, other than Iseral laying the fuck off.

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                                          I love DS9, but I sincerely don't get the Dr. Bashir reference here.

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