Europe has a 'real opportunity' to take in Americans fleeing Trump. Is it ready for a 'brain drain'?
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What's a NIMBY ?
People who say "Not In My BackYard", figuratively, people who block local development for spurious personal reasons. E.g., people who sue against building a new school near their home, because the kids might be loud.
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I'm a senior software engineer! Brain drain me!
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My employer offers visa sponsorship to employees wanting to migrate to the Netherlands. Once I meet the tenure requirements (a little over a month left), I intend to start the process. My spouse and kid are onboard. We've already started learning Dutch and made a week-long trip there a couple weeks ago to make sure we would like it.
I'm a senior software engineer interested in moving to the Netherlands. Can you tell me more?
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I'm an industrial engineer and while Mein deutsch ist scheiß, I'm still learning in the hopes that if I get to go to Europe as a brain drain or as a refugee (listen, if shit gets bad enough it'll still be shocking if we're let in) that I won't just be some dumb monolingual American.
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Europe is further from the US.
Exactly. Canada is also facing a decent chance at an invasion
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I fear that Europe, as is tradition, will fail to capitalise on this moment due to internal division, with China reaping most of the benefits as a result.
I would love to be wrong. I hope I am. I feel like an EU at the centre of global trade and geopolitics is the least awful option at this point in history. Although with the continued rise of the far right in France and Germany that may not be the case for much longer.
Taking advantage of situations like these seems to be an American thing.
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People who say "Not In My BackYard", figuratively, people who block local development for spurious personal reasons. E.g., people who sue against building a new school near their home, because the kids might be loud.
Oh ok, but if it's vegans, then the Europeans won't have none of that crap.
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I'm an industrial engineer and while Mein deutsch ist scheiß, I'm still learning in the hopes that if I get to go to Europe as a brain drain or as a refugee (listen, if shit gets bad enough it'll still be shocking if we're let in) that I won't just be some dumb monolingual American.
Ich spreche nicht für alle, aber ein "dummer einsprachiger Amerikaner" der nach Europa abhaut verliert (meiner Meinung nach) zumindest das erste Attribut und mit dem zweiten kann ich ganz gut leben.
I don't speak for everyone, but a "dumb monolingual American" that to Europe runs off loses (in my opinion) at least the first attribute and with the second I can quite well live.
The awkward word order of the translation is intentional to more closely mirror the German word order. I promise you, I can also good English speak
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Immigrating to Europe isn't the easy process a lot of people think it is. At least for the countries I tried (Germany, Sweden, Denmark, the Netherlands)...but I do know some things have changed recently, at least for Germany.
My efforts were about ten years ago thought. Despite having a graduate degree from a European institution I still found it impossible.
For Germany, though I had spent the previous 10 years as a software developer (which is classified as an Engpassberuf), I was told that the regulations would only allow me to seek work based on the skills from that degree (Berufsqualifikation). My Master's degree was in a different technical field (European development planning), and my BAs were in European Studies and German Language and Literature. I also studied at the Goethe Institute and completed the Oberstufe C2 exam. But none of that was sufficient.
Now I am middle aged, have a wife and kids, chronic health issues...and though I would love to emigrate, I can't imagine uprooting them all, even if I could find a European country willing to take us.
Unfortunately, the German bureaucratic clusterfuck does tend to hamstring good intention with stupid regulations carried out to the pedantic letter. It's a bit of a lottery at times whether you'll find yourself dealing with a human or with a relentless rule fetishist, and the more complex a process is, the more people it involves and the greater the chance someone will obstruct.
I'd hope things have improved and I hope they'll improve further. Shame that it's too late for you.
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Ich spreche nicht für alle, aber ein "dummer einsprachiger Amerikaner" der nach Europa abhaut verliert (meiner Meinung nach) zumindest das erste Attribut und mit dem zweiten kann ich ganz gut leben.
I don't speak for everyone, but a "dumb monolingual American" that to Europe runs off loses (in my opinion) at least the first attribute and with the second I can quite well live.
The awkward word order of the translation is intentional to more closely mirror the German word order. I promise you, I can also good English speak
@luciferofastora @captainlezbian abgesehen davon, dass so verallgemeinernde Beleidigungen fehl am Platz sind: nur weil jemand woanders hin zieht, wird er nicht unbedingt klüger. Er ist dann meist nur an einem anderen Ort dumm. Der Vorteil bei uns ist jedoch: die meisten Schulen/Unis sind so kostengünstig, dass man das schnell ändern kann.
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Europe hates migrants. Get real.
We don't hate immigrants, we are selectively racist tho. Random Muslim? Cool whatever. Random Muslim who insists we should turn wherever they live into a representation of their former home? Yeah no
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I'm a senior software engineer! Brain drain me!
Not sure how serious you are, but just in case...
https://www.englishjobs.se/job-role/it-software-engineering
https://jobs.thelocal.com/search/#results%2F67f4c4740357fbed229a30e9%3Fkw=&loc=sweden&page_num=1
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Immigrating to Europe isn't the easy process a lot of people think it is. At least for the countries I tried (Germany, Sweden, Denmark, the Netherlands)...but I do know some things have changed recently, at least for Germany.
My efforts were about ten years ago thought. Despite having a graduate degree from a European institution I still found it impossible.
For Germany, though I had spent the previous 10 years as a software developer (which is classified as an Engpassberuf), I was told that the regulations would only allow me to seek work based on the skills from that degree (Berufsqualifikation). My Master's degree was in a different technical field (European development planning), and my BAs were in European Studies and German Language and Literature. I also studied at the Goethe Institute and completed the Oberstufe C2 exam. But none of that was sufficient.
Now I am middle aged, have a wife and kids, chronic health issues...and though I would love to emigrate, I can't imagine uprooting them all, even if I could find a European country willing to take us.
The trick is to tell them what they want to hear, otherwise you won't get the required permits and paperwork.
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Not as cold.
Correct. I currently live significantly further north that Iqaluit and the snow is melting.
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You don't give up your right to vote by moving abroad. Your vote in state and local politics is lost. How much of a real impact that has depends on where you live.
This assumes voting continues to function more or less as it has in the past.
Not only am I in favour of the smart Americans moving here, I'm also in favour of sending the stupid Europeans to US.
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@luciferofastora @captainlezbian abgesehen davon, dass so verallgemeinernde Beleidigungen fehl am Platz sind: nur weil jemand woanders hin zieht, wird er nicht unbedingt klüger. Er ist dann meist nur an einem anderen Ort dumm. Der Vorteil bei uns ist jedoch: die meisten Schulen/Unis sind so kostengünstig, dass man das schnell ändern kann.
Das war eher als Korrelation gemeint. Wer Amerika verlässt hat eine gewisse Vernunft, was meiner Meinung nach eher gegen Dummheit spricht. Trifft natürlich auch nicht auf alle zu.
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Oh ok, but if it's vegans, then the Europeans won't have none of that crap.
I don't know about the relationship between Nimbyism and veganism. I was just trying to chip in helpfully explaining the acronym.
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I don't know about the relationship between Nimbyism and veganism. I was just trying to chip in helpfully explaining the acronym.
& I thank you for the explanation
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My employer offers visa sponsorship to employees wanting to migrate to the Netherlands. Once I meet the tenure requirements (a little over a month left), I intend to start the process. My spouse and kid are onboard. We've already started learning Dutch and made a week-long trip there a couple weeks ago to make sure we would like it.
Everyone likes the Netherlands, the Netherlands is fuckin awesome. Good choice!
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Not sure how serious you are, but just in case...
https://www.englishjobs.se/job-role/it-software-engineering
https://jobs.thelocal.com/search/#results%2F67f4c4740357fbed229a30e9%3Fkw=&loc=sweden&page_num=1
I'm interested too. Any specific job sites for Switzerland, Iceland, Luxembourg etc? I prefer the smaller countries.
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