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    In the process of degoogling my life. Email and files are gone, but I use GMaps, still.

    Google (still) offers a regular backup of your data to download. You can set it up to run at intervals and just download the entire thing. Includes file (and photos), email, messages, etc. It's great for products you forget you were using, and great for an offline backup.

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      I just scatter mine under the fingernails of multiple unhoused individuals throughout the city. It’s a bit of a pain, but it’s peace of mind. I’m thinking of expanding into microfiche hidden in fortune cookies next.

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      I convert all my files to wavforms and teach starlings the songs

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      • deflated0ne@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

        Am I too old? I only trust hard saving to offline storage. Be that an external hdd or a flash drive.

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        I'm in university (as an old) and just about everyone from faculty to staff has been pushing me to put everything in OneDrive. I know better, but young people tend to trust that an educational institution is looking out for them.

        My freshman year I met teenagers who didn't know what a flash drive is. Most of them have iPads with no storage, one of my classmates was just uploading all her lectures directly to YouTube so she could review them later.

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          I'm in university (as an old) and just about everyone from faculty to staff has been pushing me to put everything in OneDrive. I know better, but young people tend to trust that an educational institution is looking out for them.

          My freshman year I met teenagers who didn't know what a flash drive is. Most of them have iPads with no storage, one of my classmates was just uploading all her lectures directly to YouTube so she could review them later.

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          There's nothing wrong with putting everything in OneDrive... as long as you also have it somewhere else.

          At work we're told to put everything into OneDrive and we're blocked from using USB drives, or using any other online storage. Fortunately all of the data I use and create on my work computer belongs to my employer, so if they only trust MS with their data then who am I to argue?

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            Is Scrivener online storage? I don't think it is, but I don't use it so I can't be sure.

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            Scrivener is an offline, desktop app. So the files will be on their hard drive.

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              Always, always backup. And frequently! Don't trust your local harddrive (especially if it's a device you frequently take with you), don't trust flashdrives, don't even trust your local fileserver if it doesn't have built-in backups (and even if it does, check that those backups actually work). If it's not saved on at least two physical places (two drives in the same PC/server count, but it's sketchy on its own), it's not backed up!

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              two drives in the same PC/server count, but it’s sketchy on its own

              If your house/office burns down, all your data is lost. At least one backup should be off-site!

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                The extra words are not needed. The most accurate version is just:

                Don’t trust cloud companies.

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                  There's nothing wrong with putting everything in OneDrive... as long as you also have it somewhere else.

                  At work we're told to put everything into OneDrive and we're blocked from using USB drives, or using any other online storage. Fortunately all of the data I use and create on my work computer belongs to my employer, so if they only trust MS with their data then who am I to argue?

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                  Yeah, I understand why employers use it. Oddly, I used to work for Microsoft and can't remember using OneDrive for our projects lol

                  But as a student I really prefer saving stuff locally and to a separate storage device. The university system has been hacked at least once since I've been a student, we all lost our credentials and were required to physically go to the campus to reset them. The university also revokes access three years after graduation.

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                    people just never learn that companies cannot be trusted...time and time again, they work to steal and claim ownership of your intelligence.

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                    people don't need to learn that. these things need to be regulated. also Google needs to be broken up to like 12 pieces or nationalized. what needs to happen is companies not have this much power ever.

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                      people don't need to learn that. these things need to be regulated. also Google needs to be broken up to like 12 pieces or nationalized. what needs to happen is companies not have this much power ever.

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                      what needs to happen is companies not have this much power ever.

                      There is zero chance that we can get the oligarchy to surrender power peacefully, so that's not going to happen unless…

                      ^For^ ^legal^ ^purposes^ ^this^ ^comment^ ^is^ ^a^ ^joke^

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                        ZK encryption has [yet] been debunked yet but I am sure there is risk there too

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                        What are you referring to? What is "ZK" here?

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                          two drives in the same PC/server count, but it’s sketchy on its own

                          If your house/office burns down, all your data is lost. At least one backup should be off-site!

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                          One backup copy isn't enough anyway! The more the merrier, just make sure that enough of it is automated that your backups don't get stale, and ideally stagger the timings so you don't immediately overwrite all the automated backups with trash data once something goes wrong.

                          At one point I accidentally deleted a file, but I could conveniently copy it from the copy in my fileserver that automatically gets updated every two weeks.

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                            What are you referring to? What is "ZK" here?

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                            Zero Knowledge ie service provider doesn't have view of the content just that you are using the service e

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                              In the process of degoogling my life. Email and files are gone, but I use GMaps, still.

                              Google (still) offers a regular backup of your data to download. You can set it up to run at intervals and just download the entire thing. Includes file (and photos), email, messages, etc. It's great for products you forget you were using, and great for an offline backup.

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                              I use waze and google maps. Although I contribute sometimes with streetcomplete and openstreetmaps, their respective android apps are dog shit at navigating. Certain hiking trails and maybe biking trails though, they might be better but for things like driving cars, traffic reports, nearby attractions, google is still superior.

                              Edit: fixed bad grammar

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                                people don't need to learn that. these things need to be regulated. also Google needs to be broken up to like 12 pieces or nationalized. what needs to happen is companies not have this much power ever.

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                                Famously Americans did the splitting thing once before with Standard Oil and it was immensely beneficial to the economy in general. Just checked the wiki and it was more than 100 years ago. Unlikely the same laws are still on the books.

                                There are several companies currently active that deserve the same treatment.

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                                  The extra words are not needed. The most accurate version is just:

                                  Don’t trust cloud companies.

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                                  The extra words are not needed. The most accurate version is just:

                                  Don’t trust companies.

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                                    Am I too old? I only trust hard saving to offline storage. Be that an external hdd or a flash drive.

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                                    You don't need to trust to use cloud services, I copy encrypted backups into the cloud. The only risk is that they don't give it back but that's why you have multiple backups.

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                                      Zero Knowledge ie service provider doesn't have view of the content just that you are using the service e

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                                      So something like MEGA or Proton Drive?

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                                        I convert all my files to wavforms and teach starlings the songs

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                                        Hard to take the photo of it, but I backed up your comment to a CD:

                                        Software used: https://github.com/arduinocelentano/cdimage

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                                          The extra words are not needed. The most accurate version is just:

                                          Don’t trust companies.

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                                          The extra words are not needed. The most accurate version is just:

                                          Don’t trust.

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