I'm doing my part💪
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No one's going to argue that there aren't going to be edge cases that are hard to criticize, but in general, supporting any kind of systemic vigilante justice always leads incredibly quickly to innocent people getting lynched and cycles of reciprocal violence.
I heckin' love the state's monopoly on violence!
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I heckin' love the state's monopoly on violence!
wrote on last edited by [email protected]The state always maintains a monopoly on violence. Otherwise you'd have a terrorist show up and the state would be unable to stop them, invalidating one of the core purposes of the state which is to provide security.
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Yeah, that might be a bit extreme. I was mostly thinking about violent rapists when I said that. Sorry.
Stop thinking about violent rapists so much. Can't be healthy for you.
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The state always maintains a monopoly on violence. Otherwise you'd have a terrorist show up and the state would be unable to stop them, invalidating one of the core purposes of the state which is to provide security.
Provide security for whom?
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Provide security for whom?
Well in a democracy, presumably the people who vote for politicians. In a democracy with a constitution that guarantees rights and security for non voters then them as well.
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Well in a democracy, presumably the people who vote for politicians. In a democracy with a constitution that guarantees rights and security for non voters then them as well.
That sounds nice but I don't think that's exactly the case in practice. There are often people who the state defends at the expense of others, who will never realistically receive any kind of justice from the state. I think things are also generally much better when these people are scared.
I'm not trying to advocate for violence against anyone specific but sometimes I think it's best when people stand up for themselves (and the people) to show that they're willing to enact some kind of justice in a corrupt system. Thinking of vigilantes in general as immoral and barbaric while thinking "democracy" alone can help you just plays into the hands of those who wish to exploit you imo.
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Not if they aren't acting on it, geez.
If they woke up one day, realized to their horror they wanted to do some fucked up shit, and then just never did, that's crappy for them to have to deal with, and they're a champion for not making it anybody else's problem.
I always worry about this. Ive got some specific non-vanilla stuff that I didnt ask for and cant change. Lucky for me its nothing illegal or harmful, just non-standard.
It could just as easily have been the bad.
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Child sexual abuse triggers me into a violent rage as that is how I stopped my abusers as a child. No human scares me. Please do not harm children or the world will be full of violence. But also I agree with the comments saying pedophilia is a mental disorder. Also I do not condone violence against them. Please just stop abusing children.
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I support treating pedos and murdering offenders. I don't think you're guilty until having done anything.
Death sentence is barbaric and stupid though
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That sounds nice but I don't think that's exactly the case in practice. There are often people who the state defends at the expense of others, who will never realistically receive any kind of justice from the state. I think things are also generally much better when these people are scared.
I'm not trying to advocate for violence against anyone specific but sometimes I think it's best when people stand up for themselves (and the people) to show that they're willing to enact some kind of justice in a corrupt system. Thinking of vigilantes in general as immoral and barbaric while thinking "democracy" alone can help you just plays into the hands of those who wish to exploit you imo.
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wrote on last edited by [email protected]Change generally comes about from mass mobilization. The French have gotten more concessions from the government and the rich through mass strikes than Americans ever have firing guns. I'm not naiive to the idea that it's all purely 100% peaceful protest, but one man with a gun rarely makes a significant change in the overall direction compared to hundreds of thousands of people turning out and threatening the economy.
And that's the thing, the state generally maintains a monopoly on violence against small groups, it's near impossible for them to threaten violence against the population as a whole without creating a totalitarian state.
At the end of the day guns aren't going to be what stops injustice, convincing enough people that the injustice is intolerable is.
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Change generally comes about from mass mobilization. The French have gotten more concessions from the government and the rich through mass strikes than Americans ever have firing guns. I'm not naiive to the idea that it's all purely 100% peaceful protest, but one man with a gun rarely makes a significant change in the overall direction compared to hundreds of thousands of people turning out and threatening the economy.
And that's the thing, the state generally maintains a monopoly on violence against small groups, it's near impossible for them to threaten violence against the population as a whole without creating a totalitarian state.
At the end of the day guns aren't going to be what stops injustice, convincing enough people that the injustice is intolerable is.
That's a quite reasonable response, but I will say that no actual revolution is likely gonna not involve a lot of violence. And yeah... protests are almost always gonna come at the very least with the threat of violence (for a reason). Plus, figures who do something violent that many see as ultimately justified can create awareness that could lead to more pressure on elites.
I just don't think it's productive to condemn violence in general. I don't think violence not done by the state is in itself bad. Obviously a lone wolf going after random people they think deserve it isn't gonna directly enact real change, but going on about how peaceful you are seems counterproductive.
Mass mobilisation and vigilante justice aren't mutually exclusive, and I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing.
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Plus a lot of child molesters aren't even attracted to children, just the power and control it gives them.
I think that it's also the fact that children, due to being inexperienced and lacking knowledge and strength to defend themselves, which makes them easy targets.
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When you realise there's a list that names every sex offender in the USA and they can't legally bear arms.
Edit: People chill, I am sarcastic. Violence breeds violence, everyone knows that. If you treat criminals like they do in the USA, you can kiss the idea of rehabilitation goodbye. Not only that, but it also is just purile.
Socially acceptable, free and unlimited violence, this is the main reason behind the fascination for pedos. Anyone who balks at the idea of this violence is made complicit and an enabler. Eventually this congeals into a powerful hate mob, a mod of selfrighteous violence and justice, priming itself for violence until one of its member finally does it, shows up at a pizzeria and shoots up the place. They were going to be an hero, their life was finally going to make sense. They would finally have the power to make things right with the world but as we all know, the billionaire elite learned from the takedown of the church in the 80s and they had already filled the basement with concrete before he got there. Who even is the enemy anymore? It's billionaires! Shoot down their planes with open source anti air missiles!!
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When you want to do violence but it's generally frowned upon so you have to find a way to justify it
Aww come on, let them have their fun! It's refreshing to see some people acting with a civic mindset!
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Beating up Trump, Musk and co? Hell yeah.
What if we didn't need the nental gymnastic, they are roping democracy with memetic manipulation and demographic hacking. 1700s democracy didn't understand the power of computers, we badly need to bad the exploits and pulp the exploiters.
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What's with all the anti-republican propaganda on here these days?
As a Trump supporter this post directly attacks me.
Edit: The people that took this post seriously should touch some grass
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What's with all the anti-republican propaganda on here these days?
As a Trump supporter this post directly attacks me.
Edit: The people that took this post seriously should touch some grass
wrote last edited by [email protected]Don't back or defend rapists/pedophiles/felons, maybe then you won't feel personally attacked.
Trump is a 34x convicted felon (for fraud no less), convicted rapist, accused by dozens of women of sexual assault, who raped his previous wife, hung out with pedophile Epstein (why aren't the Epstein files released? What is Bondi hiding?) regularly on the Lolita Express, talks about wanting to fuck his daughter, selling Trump meme coins, peddling products out of the Oval Office, Tesla commercials on the White House lawn, selling "gold card" citizenships for $50k (you can come to America as an immigrant, as long as you have/bring money), dodged the draft yet talks trash about uniformed services and veterans, defends the nazi hate group the proud boys, calls voters "stupid", threatening to take away citizenships of anyone he doesn't like or criticizes the government (literally what the nazis did, revoke the citizenship of Germans who opposed them)… I could go on, but it's wasted energy.
When you hang out with turds, you tend to smell like shit.
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Nah, pedophilia is a paraphilia. And if someone suffers from pedophilic disorder, it's kinda impossible for anyone other than healthcare to know that -- unless they've made some attempts to abuse someone.
To be fair, paraphilias were listed in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders as disorders before that definition was moved in DSM-5 to paraphilic disorder to be distinct from paraphilia (no longer de facto a disorder).
Anyway, pedophilia is a paraphilic disorder, which makes it a paraphilia and a mental disorder!
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I've seen too much right-wing LGBT = pedophilia propaganda to jump at this one.
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Plus a lot of child molesters aren't even attracted to children, just the power and control it gives them.
Explain how that's makes it better.
