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Intel launches $299 Arc Pro B50 with 16GB of memory, 'Project Battlematrix' workstations with 24GB Arc Pro B60 GPUs

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    "While the B60 is designed for powerful 'Project Battlematrix' AI workstations sold as full systems ranging from $5,000 to $10,000, it will carry a roughly $500 per-unit price tag."

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      "While the B60 is designed for powerful 'Project Battlematrix' AI workstations sold as full systems ranging from $5,000 to $10,000, it will carry a roughly $500 per-unit price tag."

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      Nice. I always first look at the memory bandwidth if it's about AI. And seems with a 224bit bus, they've done a better job than previous cards you'd find in that price segment.

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        "While the B60 is designed for powerful 'Project Battlematrix' AI workstations sold as full systems ranging from $5,000 to $10,000, it will carry a roughly $500 per-unit price tag."

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        $299 with 16gb of memory

        So 450-500 dollars once they instantly go out of stock and nobody can find them anywhere. I want to be excited but MSRP has been a joke since covid. Either way, the cards look good. i hope they can iron out the driver issues this time around.

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          "While the B60 is designed for powerful 'Project Battlematrix' AI workstations sold as full systems ranging from $5,000 to $10,000, it will carry a roughly $500 per-unit price tag."

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            Nice. I always first look at the memory bandwidth if it's about AI. And seems with a 224bit bus, they've done a better job than previous cards you'd find in that price segment.

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            224bit bus

            Where do you see that? I thought the die was 192-bit at most.

            There's is a specification for 224 GB/S.

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              "While the B60 is designed for powerful 'Project Battlematrix' AI workstations sold as full systems ranging from $5,000 to $10,000, it will carry a roughly $500 per-unit price tag."

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              With what 3090s are going for, this is good.

              What GDDR ICs are they using? If blackwell can top out at 96GB, seems like the Arch could do at least 32GB?

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                224bit bus

                Where do you see that? I thought the die was 192-bit at most.

                There's is a specification for 224 GB/S.

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                Thank you very much for the correct information. I googled it and took the number from some random pc news page. Either they got it wrong or I might need new glasses. Nonetheless, 128 or 192-bit is what Intel has on their website. I wish they'd do more for cards with 16GB of VRAM or more. I think two hundred and something GB/s is about what Nvidia, AMD and everyone already did in their previous generation of graphics cards.

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                  "While the B60 is designed for powerful 'Project Battlematrix' AI workstations sold as full systems ranging from $5,000 to $10,000, it will carry a roughly $500 per-unit price tag."

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                  No they didn’t. Or at least no one will ever actually be able to purchase one. I’m still waiting on an in stock notification for the last one.

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                    Thank you very much for the correct information. I googled it and took the number from some random pc news page. Either they got it wrong or I might need new glasses. Nonetheless, 128 or 192-bit is what Intel has on their website. I wish they'd do more for cards with 16GB of VRAM or more. I think two hundred and something GB/s is about what Nvidia, AMD and everyone already did in their previous generation of graphics cards.

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                    Prices for AMD/Nvidia (except maybe a used AMD 7900 XTX) are so awful that this is still a good deal, no matter how much bandwidth it has. For pure text LLM usage, capacity is king.

                    Intel's hands are tied buy what silicon they have available, unfortunately.

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                      Prices for AMD/Nvidia (except maybe a used AMD 7900 XTX) are so awful that this is still a good deal, no matter how much bandwidth it has. For pure text LLM usage, capacity is king.

                      Intel's hands are tied buy what silicon they have available, unfortunately.

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                      Hmm. I could buy a (new) Radeon 7600 XT right now for around 330€... that should be only slightly more than $300 plus VAT, and that also has 16GB of VRAM and a similar (slightly faster?) memory interface?

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                        No they didn’t. Or at least no one will ever actually be able to purchase one. I’m still waiting on an in stock notification for the last one.

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                        Not sure where you are in the world, but I got a B580 from b&h in February without issues. Just checked the site once a day when I knew I wanted to buy one.

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                          Hmm. I could buy a (new) Radeon 7600 XT right now for around 330€... that should be only slightly more than $300 plus VAT, and that also has 16GB of VRAM and a similar (slightly faster?) memory interface?

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                          The better choice depends on which software stack you intend to wrangle with, how long you intend to keep the cards, and your usage patterns, but the B580 is the sorta newer silicon.

                          Exllamav3 is the shit these days (as you can fully offload 32Bs in 16GB with very little loss), and it's theoretically getting AMD support way before Intel (unless Intel changes that).

                          ...Also, 2x 3060s may be a better option, depending on price.

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                            Not sure where you are in the world, but I got a B580 from b&h in February without issues. Just checked the site once a day when I knew I wanted to buy one.

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                            That was where I signed up for stock alerts. The only alert I got was about the ASRock B580 no longer being carried, at all. I wanted one of the actual Intel cards for somewhere close to the MSRP not a card for 2x MSRP plus a bundled power supply.

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